no use playing the blame game anymore....

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i dont understand everyone is happy that sona is moving on as if we all hated the show so far for showing devakshi tog as if we all were hoping for some other character opposite her...as a woman myself i am totally in favor of her wanting to move on instead of brooding for a guy who broke up with her so easily...
but for me moving on has many definitions other than getting married with another guy...she has just been wounded...by marrying ritwik she is doing injustice with him too...sona and her family r simply using ritwik as a shield to protect sona from her depression...


y does she need to jump another wagon just because the first wagon in her life got broken...i had said in one of my earlier posts she cud focus on her career, find new hobbies, travel to some place...
i know many of u r thinking that i am talking in favor of dev and wanting sona to pine for him in the same way he is pining for her...but that is not so...devakshi hv just broken up and it needs time for wounds to heal...unless that time will pass it is not rite to get involved with another man...i wud hv understood if she wud hv emotionally got involved with rikwik but hurrying into an arranged marriage so soon makes no sense...it only gvs me the impression that they r using ritwik...mind u guys...i do not hv one iota of sympathy for this new guy...but i am just stating the impression that i am getting from all this...


dev is pining for her and literally dying for her...no these r not the reasons y i feel he shud be forgiven...i agree he is no less at fault...currently he is standing in no man's land...neither can he go and apologize to sona (which makes no sense if he takes no stand with ishwari) and nor can he go and convince his mom which i dont understand y...ishwari shud be answerable to someone...after all dev shud ask her the reason y she did not like sona...but i hv no hopes from this angle...ishwari is so shrewd that she will say that i never told u that i dont like sona just like she told mamaji that she never told dev or sona about this...and if dev tells her mamaji told him so then i am sure she wud say that mamaji has wrongly interpreted her feelings...


currently i can think of only one solution and that shud come from dev only...he shud decide wat he wants in life and act accordingly...if he chooses sona then he shud make sure that his mom cannot interfere in his life beyond a certain limit and if needed he can move to a different house with his wife...i mean this is the solution i hv seen in real cases...it is mostly impossible to change women of ishwari's age...their character become set and at this age they cannot be moulded...so wat i hv seen that sons move to other cities or other house with their wives...and then come over to meet their parents at regular intervals...i think this can be the only solution...


but since it is a serial i am sure they will show ishwari realizing wat she has done and she will accept sona as her DIL...this hapnd with my friend's case and now she is very happily married...
but watever hapens at the end of the day i wish to see devakshi tog...its no use blaming dev alone...wat dev did he did that in a frenzied state of mind...if this relationship is so valuable for sona then y cudnt she talk to him once the next day wen he has calmed down and ishwari was back home...and no use asking y shud she...y not...if one partner makes a mistake then cant the other partner take one effort to rectify the mistake...if dev wud hv taken the decision in a calm and composed mind after lots of thinking then i wud hv understood but that was not the case...


i always felt sona shud hv taken one effort from her side...after all it is she who had once promised that she wud never leave him even if he does...i dont understand y noone talks about sona did not take any effort...dev said go away and sona starts crying on another man's shoulder...wow...


nywyz i am sick and tired of discussing whose fault and whose not fault...the damage has been done and i think we shud now discuss on how the problem can be solved..

.sona-ritwik marriage cannot be and should not be the solution...this story is not about dev-sona love story but dev-sona-ishwari's relationship...sona-ritwik marriage will take ishwari out of the picture completely which makes no sense...


wen i started watching this show i hv always known that the story will revolve

around these 3 characters with dev as the central point...showing sona-ritwik marriage shud make another story in another show where the moral will be if a couple breaks up then they can move on with other partners...but this story is not about that...at least pre-launch promos promised something else and so my mind is not prepared for a third angle in this love story...


i dont want to comment on the precap let alone create a thread on it...but if dev is angry he surely has some reasons...if he is at fault in breaking up then wat did she do to reconcile...i dont mean she shud come back and beg for his love...but there r other dignified steps toward reconciliation like coming to dev and telling him to make a final decision and gving him some time for that...it may sound lame but i hv seen such ultimatums working for guys and the couples hv a successful marriage eventually...


but i am waiting to see wat the makers hv in store for us...i dont think sona-ritwik marriage is in their agenda because i still believe pre-launch promos were not done only for promotions...

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Everybody has loved the show and the Devakshi pairing and that is why they are here on this forum. Its just that this track is creating a lot of opposing opinions and everyone is trying to put forward their views.
I don't think any injustice is being done to Ritik as he is aware of exactly where she stands with regards to her past and ex. She has clearly stated that she has not yet been able to move on. So if he decided to continue the alliance, then it will be as per his own wishes and his willingness to take this risk which either might result in him getting a good life partner or getting hurt.
As for moving on, every one has their own definition. Her way of moving on is agreeing to her parent's wish and getting married. She admits to Ritik that she would need his help to move on. There are other ways to show that, focusing on career, new hobbies, simply giving time etc but the makers have decided to take this route so lets just see how the story shapes.
You say that Sona should have kept her promise and tried to reconcile without compromising her self respect right?
What I feel is that if she approaches Dev at the moment even to give an ultimatum, it will compromise her self respect. Do you think Dev will change hi decision? He is still firm that what he did was right,so an ultimatum is not gonna change that.What is the use of ultimatum when he has already taken one step ahead of it and completely broken the relationship.
Since you have already commented about Dev and his mistakes and the action needed to rectify that, I won't comment further on it.

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Originally posted by: adoremevirgo

i dont understand everyone is happy that sona is moving on as if we all hated the show so far for showing devakshi tog as if we all were hoping for some other character opposite her...as a woman myself i am totally in favor of her wanting to move on instead of brooding for a guy who broke up with her so easily...
but for me moving on has many definitions other than getting married with another guy...she has just been wounded...by marrying ritwik she is doing injustice with him too...sona and her family r simply using ritwik as a shield to protect sona from her depression...


y does she need to jump another wagon just because the first wagon in her life got broken...i had said in one of my earlier posts she cud focus on her career, find new hobbies, travel to some place...
i know many of u r thinking that i am talking in favor of dev and wanting sona to pine for him in the same way he is pining for her...but that is not so...devakshi hv just broken up and it needs time for wounds to heal...unless that time will pass it is not rite to get involved with another man...i wud hv understood if she wud hv emotionally got involved with rikwik but hurrying into an arranged marriage so soon makes no sense...it only gvs me the impression that they r using ritwik...mind u guys...i do not hv one iota of sympathy for this new guy...but i am just stating the impression that i am getting from all this...


dev is pining for her and literally dying for her...no these r not the reasons y i feel he shud be forgiven...i agree he is no less at fault...currently he is standing in no man's land...neither can he go and apologize to sona (which makes no sense if he takes no stand with ishwari) and nor can he go and convince his mom which i dont understand y...ishwari shud be answerable to someone...after all dev shud ask her the reason y she did not like sona...but i hv no hopes from this angle...ishwari is so shrewd that she will say that i never told u that i dont like sona just like she told mamaji that she never told dev or sona about this...and if dev tells her mamaji told him so then i am sure she wud say that mamaji has wrongly interpreted her feelings...


currently i can think of only one solution and that shud come from dev only...he shud decide wat he wants in life and act accordingly...if he chooses sona then he shud make sure that his mom cannot interfere in his life beyond a certain limit and if needed he can move to a different house with his wife...i mean this is the solution i hv seen in real cases...it is mostly impossible to change women of ishwari's age...their character become set and at this age they cannot be moulded...so wat i hv seen that sons move to other cities or other house with their wives...and then come over to meet their parents at regular intervals...i think this can be the only solution...


but since it is a serial i am sure they will show ishwari realizing wat she has done and she will accept sona as her DIL...this hapnd with my friend's case and now she is very happily married...
but watever hapens at the end of the day i wish to see devakshi tog...its no use blaming dev alone...wat dev did he did that in a frenzied state of mind...if this relationship is so valuable for sona then y cudnt she talk to him once the next day wen he has calmed down and ishwari was back home...and no use asking y shud she...y not...if one partner makes a mistake then cant the other partner take one effort to rectify the mistake...if dev wud hv taken the decision in a calm and composed mind after lots of thinking then i wud hv understood but that was not the case...


i always felt sona shud hv taken one effort from her side...after all it is she who had once promised that she wud never leave him even if he does...i dont understand y noone talks about sona did not take any effort...dev said go away and sona starts crying on another man's shoulder...wow...


nywyz i am sick and tired of discussing whose fault and whose not fault...the damage has been done and i think we shud now discuss on how the problem can be solved..

.sona-ritwik marriage cannot be and should not be the solution...this story is not about dev-sona love story but dev-sona-ishwari's relationship...sona-ritwik marriage will take ishwari out of the picture completely which makes no sense...


wen i started watching this show i hv always known that the story will revolve

around these 3 characters with dev as the central point...showing sona-ritwik marriage shud make another story in another show where the moral will be if a couple breaks up then they can move on with other partners...but this story is not about that...at least pre-launch promos promised something else and so my mind is not prepared for a third angle in this love story...


i dont want to comment on the precap let alone create a thread on it...but if dev is angry he surely has some reasons...if he is at fault in breaking up then wat did she do to reconcile...i dont mean she shud come back and beg for his love...but there r other dignified steps toward reconciliation like coming to dev and telling him to make a final decision and gving him some time for that...it may sound lame but i hv seen such ultimatums working for guys and the couples hv a successful marriage eventually...


but i am waiting to see wat the makers hv in store for us...i dont think sona-ritwik marriage is in their agenda because i still believe pre-launch promos were not done only for promotions...

100% true.Even we should blame entire bose family for this hasty decision of sona getting married to a guy and allow him to enter her bedroom as if he is her boy friend.Everyone of us know that sona is a pure hearted girl but she is not strong if it comes to her love story.She won't stand up for her love story if she face any problem comes from dev side.I agree that She questioned Dev when he took the decision of breakup but now she took the decision to move on and taking the support of another guy even she is having the whole family to console her.Now i feel it is dev who need to take up a standup for their love story whichever path he follow it does not matter whether it is right or wrong.But he will takeup the stand and not like sona who will give up and will move on with another guy.what she will do if she will face similar kind of problem with this new guy after the marriage.Will she break marriage and move on with another guy?Sona is also doing the same mistake that dev had did by breaking up their relation
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: rose4ever

Everybody has loved the show and the Devakshi pairing and that is why they are here on this forum. Its just that this track is creating a lot of opposing opinions and everyone is trying to put forward their views.
I don't think any injustice is being done to Ritik as he is aware of exactly where she stands with regards to her past and ex. She has clearly stated that she has not yet been able to move on. So if he decided to continue the alliance, then it will be as per his own wishes and his willingness to take this risk which either might result in him getting a good life partner or getting hurt.
As for moving on, every one has their own definition. Her way of moving on is agreeing to her parent's wish and getting married. She admits to Ritik that she would need his help to move on. There are other ways to show that, focusing on career, new hobbies, simply giving time etc but the makers have decided to take this route so lets just see how the story shapes.
You say that Sona should have kept her promise and tried to reconcile without compromising her self respect right?
What I feel is that if she approaches Dev at the moment even to give an ultimatum, it will compromise her self respect. Do you think Dev will change hi decision? He is still firm that what he did was right,so an ultimatum is not gonna change that.What is the use of ultimatum when he has already taken one step ahead of it and completely broken the relationship.
Since you have already commented about Dev and his mistakes and the action needed to rectify that, I won't comment further on it.


ok...then it wud hv justified her entering into alliance so soon...if dev wudnt hv changed even after sona gvs ultimatum then i wudnt hv made this post na...but sona didnt so my question remains wat did she do for reconciliation...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I am not supporting Dev. He initiated the break up in a cruel manner. Sona didnt deserve it.
He made that decision in a very impulsive moment thinking only about his mother and dropped the gal without a thought and all the promises he made. He took the decision by himself without even discussing with Sona. Even now he is not willing to speak to her but he cant bear the thought of her with someone else... dog in the manger attitude!

Sona had every right to be angry, betrayed and move on. But move on at such a speed.? Marriage? No this is not done . This is a big mistake on her part. Two mistakes does not make one right.

But there's one thing that bothered me...like you said. she did say...even if he leaves her , she wont. So what happened?

So lets just for the sake of argument, we blame Dev as he is the one who did it , not Sona. He asked for it right. So suffer. Ok fine..

Sona, being the coolest , smartest one who thinks carefully and rationally , unlike Dev who is very emotional,, hasty , impulsive, why didnt she attempt to contact Dev at all and ask him to rethink his decision and knock some sense into him.? He made wrong decision...but she didnt pursue it to make further communication with him?

Instead, she is jumping into marriage with another guy as her solution to her problem. Forget Dev and move on.

I would have preferred her , if she didnt want to talk to Dev, to bury herself in her career to forget the pain. But marriage , is a bit too much and extreme, no matter how good the new guy is. Just a big no!

So what if her parents wants her to do move on. Its just to early to take this step. She needs to time. Wait.

And coming to the bose family, I am quite upset at Bejoy...

If only he had called Dev and Iswari, that he will be going over to their house about Sona- dev Alliance , things might have turned out differently. But no, Bijoy made a surprise visit...a visit that even Sona was not aware of.

He made a big mistake here . If Dev had been present during the visit, things would have turned out differently.

We can sit here and talk for hours, blaming all of them...until the cows come home but no use...the damage is done by all parties and they are continuing to mess up more...

But end of the day...we know this story is about Dev ,Sona and Iswari and how the trio would works it out to bring their relation to the next level.

.If the new guy was introduced as co worker and a good friend, then it would have been nice.

Dev is not an easy man...I was very angry with him...but the more I see him , I am learning to understand him ...this man is trapped by the love for his mother who struggled to bring him up and gave him the best.He is all alone and have no one to talk to .
But having said that, he needs to stand up for his woman and explain to his mother , clearly about Sona , leaving no stones unturned. And also tell mum, with Sona as his wife, his love for his mother will not be any less than what it was .before,

Basically all the three of them needs lots of communication together! Then the problems will be fixed!

Anyway, lets hope this separation track strengthens their love for another , better understanding, maturity, trust , integrity. All of them need it badly! Let's hope for the best! And of course unite Devakshi.









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Posted: 8 years ago
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ok...then it wud hv justified her entering into alliance so soon...if dev wudnt hv changed even after sona gvs ultimatum then i wudnt hv made this post na...but sona didnt so my question remains wat did she do for reconciliation...
My point is that given how Dev broke up(Not civil at all), it should be Dev who initiates a civil conversation. See even if Dev would have broken up the way he did and later on tried to talk to her politely and then also she would not have tried to reconcile , then she might be considered in wrong.If Dev once just tells her he over reacted at that moment and maturely tells her without making her feel valueless in his life,shows her respect and says that he still feels the same and decides to separate, then I would have been fine with Sonakshi trying to reconcile and make him understand, but that did not happen.
The thing is a lot of members are sympathizing with Dev(as am I) as he is all alone and is in great pain as is evident from his tears.But just stop and think that even Sona is still hurt and in pain due to his words.He broke her trust, her belief in him, he disrespected their love.How much more can she take?
Also I would like to remind a promise Dev made: "I will do everything to stay with you, to make you a part of my life". He didn't even try.
Also as I mentioned, every one has their own methods of moving on and for her it is marriage.I am not advocating marriage as a solution to break up, not at all, but I am trying to understand her point of view too.
I understand why Dev took his decision, his nature,his intentions, his love.But even knowing all I still want him to approach first.I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.
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ok...then it wud hv justified her entering into alliance so soon...if dev wudnt hv changed even after sona gvs ultimatum then i wudnt hv made this post na...but sona didnt so my question remains wat did she do for reconciliation...
My point is that given how Dev broke up(Not civil at all), it should be Dev who initiates a civil conversation. See even if Dev would have broken up the way he did and later on tried to talk to her politely and then also she would not have tried to reconcile , then she might be considered in wrong.If Dev once just tells her he over reacted at that moment and maturely tells her without making her feel valueless in his life,shows her respect and says that he still feels the same and decides to separate, then I would have been fine with Sonakshi trying to reconcile and make him understand, but that did not happen.
The thing is a lot of members are sympathizing with Dev(as am I) as he is all alone and is in great pain as is evident from his tears.But just stop and think that even Sona is still hurt and in pain due to his words.He broke her trust, her belief in him, he disrespected their love.How much more can she take?
Also I would like to remind a promise Dev made: "I will do everything to stay with you, to make you a part of my life". He didn't even try.
Also as I mentioned, every one has their own methods of moving on and for her it is marriage.I am not advocating marriage as a solution to break up, not at all, but I am trying to understand her point of view too.
I understand why Dev took his decision, his nature,his intentions, his love.But even knowing all I still want him to approach first.I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.



we hv to understand the characterizations of dev and sona...yes dev had broken up it was his fault so all kinds of initiatives shud come from his side...that doesnt make sense...this is a relationship not a court of law...

but dev did make the first call...and he did say that he does not need any excuses to call her...to whom does one say such things...he didnt apologize thatz true but i thot in a relationship it is the unsaid things that work...

nywyz here like i said in the first line we hv to understand the characterizations...dev is extremely emotional and impulsive but sona is the rational one...so wat does her logic say...two things can happen here...either she shud consider this relationship as over and move on which she is doing or she shud gv it another chance...

same thing for dev...in his case he is doing nothing...neither he is moving on nor is he taking any initiative to mend things...ok i am for the millionth time saying this is dev's fault...pls understand one thing...i am NOT saying anything in dev's favor...
i am only saying that if dev cannot then sona shud...since she is the rational person so she take the logical step and approach him and talk sense to him...if he still does not take any stand then i will not be making these kinds of posts...

if sona want to move on by getting married then so be it...but then she will also remain guilty for not gving any chance to her first love...
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its just my pov...sona may be wrong on taking this decision for marriage that too this soon...but she may have to take a decision and she can't give a second chance to dev or wait for dev or a final talk to dev...wht the use of that...he will not do any things against his mom wish...he never until he knows all the things his mom done to his sona before and groom search and more...even he speak to his mom at last..she will smartly divert him and ..justifies her decision or make full bunch of lie with a tear in her eye is enough to stop dev..or she may even fairly faint or do suicide drama in front of him and he can't do anything against her even when he knows all abt her...he will surely not hate or make his mom sad... so sona knows all of this...as she saw in past...dev always want her to tolerate gkb speech and forgot her nonsense behaviour...and he never support her and utter any word in support of her.. in stead he do any romance after that...and make her forgot all...there is no hope for sona to wait...or final talk to dev...if dev sona marriage is done and then also there is no proof that ishwari and gkb stop there act against her...they will do all against her...even dev sister will not support sona...then wht the point of returning back to dev...ishwari can't be changed...but the makers will show it...and it takes some long long time to see a change in her...for that both Dev and sona have to be bear many strong decisons and in this fight btw trio... ritvik came and he knows that sona just had breakup and it so hard for her to marry him soon..and it's not good for himself...but if sona herself thinking abt dev pain and their love...also ...she will not cancel marriage soon...she will not do a hurt to ritvik like dev done to her...she will think of that and have guilty to do that...and now she thinks marrying ritvik only way to forget dev or to move on and if she marry ritvik...she is doing injustice to ritvik her dev... if she not marry.. she is doing injustice to her and ritvik... very complex from now... let's see wht justification makers tell for making ritakshi marriage or cancelling them... every thing needs correct reason...and they will do it... and we needs more patience to watch this show from here and I think i don't have such patience...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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we hv to understand the characterizations of dev and sona...yes dev had broken up it was his fault so all kinds of initiatives shud come from his side...that doesnt make sense...this is a relationship not a court of law...

but dev did make the first call...and he did say that he does not need any excuses to call her...to whom does one say such things...he didnt apologize thatz true but i thot in a relationship it is the unsaid things that work...

nywyz here like i said in the first line we hv to understand the characterizations...dev is extremely emotional and impulsive but sona is the rational one...so wat does her logic say...two things can happen here...either she shud consider this relationship as over and move on which she is doing or she shud gv it another chance...

same thing for dev...in his case he is doing nothing...neither he is moving on nor is he taking any initiative to mend things...ok i am for the millionth time saying this is dev's fault...pls understand one thing...i am NOT saying anything in dev's favor...
i am only saying that if dev cannot then sona shud...since she is the rational person so she take the logical step and approach him and talk sense to him...if he still does not take any stand then i will not be making these kinds of posts...

if sona want to move on by getting married then so be it...but then she will also remain guilty for not gving any chance to her first love...
Again replying😆can't help myself.No it is not a court of law, but The thing is IMO priority has always been given to what Dev's needs are,being patient and understanding of his needs and wishes. What about Sona? In a relationship, both partners need to value and respect each other.

Dev calling? I don't consider that first step or initiative at all.Did he say even a word that should have mattered? come on yarr, nobody can understand things unsaid. That is why communication is so important. Nobody is a mind reader.There are things which will be understood without saying and things which won't be.In any case, no where did I feel that his call was a way to indirectly convey Sona that he handled things rashly.

Sona is logical, but then no matter how logical or rational a person is,even they have feelings.She can't be always expected to be thinking so practically and not consider her own pain and hurt feelings.Sona has always been so straight forward about everything, but she can't always be expected to solve all problems just cos her character is shown logical.
Dev needs to change, for once he needs to do this.(I am pretty firm on that)

I understand completely that you are not supporting Dev for his mistakes,you just have a different opinion on how Sona should react. Respect your opinion but still firm on mine.
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Originally posted by: rose4ever


Again replying😆can't help myself.No it is not a court of law, but The thing is IMO priority has always been given to what Dev's needs are,being patient and understanding of his needs and wishes. What about Sona? In a relationship, both partners need to value and respect each other.

Dev calling? I don't consider that first step or initiative at all.Did he say even a word that should have mattered? come on yarr, nobody can understand things unsaid. That is why communication is so important. Nobody is a mind reader.There are things which will be understood without saying and things which won't be.In any case, no where did I feel that his call was a way to indirectly convey Sona that he handled things rashly.

Sona is logical, but then no matter how logical or rational a person is,even they have feelings.She can't be always expected to be thinking so practically and not consider her own pain and hurt feelings.Sona has always been so straight forward about everything, but she can't always be expected to solve all problems just cos her character is shown logical.
Dev needs to change, for once he needs to do this.(I am pretty firm on that)

I understand completely that you are not supporting Dev for his mistakes,you just have a different opinion on how Sona should react. Respect your opinion but still firm on mine.


of course u shud reply...this is a forum where we can hv discussions and counter-discussions...who said we hv to hv similar views...that wud make our conversation so borring, rite 😊

nywyz...at ur bold part...exactly u understood me...even i am firm with wat i believe but i respect ur views too...

my point is that someone shud take the initiative nahii to itna beautiful relationship will die only coz noone gv priority to mending the relationship...both r gving priority to their own pain...i totally agree dev shud do things to mend the mess but sona shud too...

just because it is dev's fault so sona cant wipe her hands off this matter completely...in a relationship we always say we will share everything btwn us...then y wen dev is at fault sona is not ready to take any kind of responsibility for his actions...

i am repeating again in response to wat u said...sona need not solve problems but shud take the initiative since dev is not taking...i am not saying dev shud not take the initiative but since he is not so she shud...i mean one of them shud...if not dev then sona if not sona then dev...

i mean koi to le...

pehle aap pehle aap karne ka koi matlab nahi hai...dev made the first call...ok that is not any kind of initiative toward reconciliation that i agree...but at least he made a call...but she did nothing...


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