Karna: greatest yet most unfortunate warrior (VB note)

Originally posted by: Moony87

Hello.. I'm new here.. I had seen few initial episodes on Sony karna and was so devastated that I came to this forum only when I got so happy hearing about this show's end.

I'm a huge huge Karna fan but I'd like to politely disagree with you.

See, the thing is Arjun was the greatest archer at that time. No doubt, he didn't have to cut his thumb or was turned down by anyone. If caste system was not so prevalent at that time, his position would have been more debatable. But despite the fact that karna was parshuram student, Arjun had a great competitor and he won the final battle.

Also, over the years, a lot of things from the epic has been altered. Sony karna being the worst of them. Karna was not the greatest. Come on.

Mahabharata is not so straight forward like it is being portrayed these days. Almost every one died unfairly. Because they all belonged to the same family and were more or less of equal valor. If such means were not used, I bet none of the characters would die and the war would go on till eternity.

For Karna, I love this character for his extremely different personalities in a same man. It's closest to our times. You feel so many emotions for the one person. Pain for being left out by his own mother, ridiculed by everyone for being a soot, cursed for not breaking his teacher's sleep.

Let's not forget, Karna had his own share of sinful deeds. He did some really vile things. And that makes you Hate him also. He was indeed consumed with the idea of defeating Arjun, probably because he saw that as an ultimate idea of being accepted. That because arjun is so celebrated and if I defeated him, I'll get my due respect.

His friendship with Duryodhan is like a double edged sword. You can applaud karna for keeping up his friendship or debts, till the end. That's some fierce loyalty in there. At the same time, he needed to take his friend on the right path. His words for draupadi are despicable. At the same time, his charitability stands out.

Hence, over the years this character took the lime light for being so grey and baffling. But he was not the greatest warrior. Come on. He was defeated a lot of times. He might have also won a lot of times. But he is more known for his loyalty, friendship and charitability.

And because of these qualities, he was ultimately send to the heaven. I think over the years, karna got his due recognition from people of modern times, but frankly, they are white washing him now. He had flaws, charitable heart, fierceness, glow and giving streak of his father, a lot of pain in his heart, anger, jealousy, revenge streak ( draupadi event), evil deeds, loyalty and a fighting spirit. He doesn't need to be glorified like what they are doing in Sony show. He was a dicy character. And that's the beauty of it. Dicy just like humans. We care for our frenz and sometimes we get so blind that we are fine with whatever they do. We hate the ones who hurt our prides. So much that we would go notches ahead to hurt them more. It's very much around us everyday, hence Karna became more relatable for today's generation. But this is pure white washing what's happening in latest renditions.

I'm not a huge fan of Arjun but we can't take the glory away from him. He worked hard and had earned it.😊

Originally posted by: vinnas

bang on
well said
agree with most of the points

welcome to the forum.
have a great time
enjoy farewell of this distorted sidt show ..

Originally posted by: vinnas

hii moony87 nice to meet you

my name is chandu

yes watver you listed is perfect at least in my mind .karn was a spl character which has flaws nd goodness which I heard about his loyalty to dury nd as a great donor ..the spl qualities of him made interest to compel to watch this show .but wat we get is not the karn in epic or not in a fanfic .he was sidt putra the ultimate saint of the era who wants parivartan altime n cries for more time like a desibahu .. totally disgusting to watch this pathetic show ..

but by this show and by this forum I'm turned to the heartcore admirer of arjun . credit to the actor who played arjun (navi ) and my fellow members of this forum ..

I wish you too join here to know more facts and details.

Originally posted by: Moony87

Hey Chandu, nice to meet you too.. Myself Chandni.

Yeah Arjun was indeed a great character too. The thing is majority of people these days try to see themselves in Karna. I guess everyone of us must have felt jealous of the topper of the class once in our lifetime. :P .. Current times actually are trying to cash on the psychology of the general public. In this competitive times, karna for them is the under dog who could have won, who could have lived, and lived with his family. They see their own struggles in him. But you can't just see his struggles. You have to see his crimes. Again a realistic streak I would say. Struggles make you bitter and at every opportunity you vent out venom. But you can't just dust those things under the carpet. A lot of people and TV makers are doing that.

He earned his respect due to charity and loyalty. He needs to be hated for his crimes as well. His death is justified. His destiny might not be. You can lament over his bad luck. You can wish how things would be if he had the guidance of Krishna since beginning. But you can't just paint him Rosy like he is the only true hero.

I like Arjun.. But he is the ultimate hero.. Hehehehe.. Sab accchha accchha hai usmein except for few points regarding draupadi again. He also suffered a bit of pride regarding his archery but who didn't at that time. Every character boasted of some or the other quality :P

Star bharat was also too distorted but karna portions were handled still better. This serial is totally atrocious to eyes. Yeah sure, I'll go through other posts as well.. :)

Originally posted by: vinnas

he he similarity in our names and thoughts. you expressed wat I felt too regarding karn .. im tired to see so many arguments on him .so many defending him as so many looks themself in him ..though his character still interesting.

to know more about arjun please visit arjun /navi AT and the posts which posted by iteldevera (Lakshmi) you may know more info on arjun and facts about epic according to Sanskrit versions .if you interested .

very good to see having similar thoughts like me here