Shagun: the opportunist extraordinaire

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Posted: 9 years ago
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I wanted to take the time to make a post about Shagun, because I, like many, take sadistic pleasure in her pain.



Forget about shades, whether it's whiter than white, chrome, silver, grey black. Whatever.

What it comes down to, is that miss shaguniya, is an opportunist.

When it suits her, that is when she sees how crazy in love Ishita and Raman are, she's white. And manoj is her security then. Here, being white matters, because there is no way in hell she can really get in between Raman and Ishita.

So therefore, she adapts to being good. And that's what we have seen more recently before the leap. And there really was no other way of getting into the bhallas' good books. No other way Raman would tolerate her after the earthquake fiasco. So apparently Shagun becomes this born again Devi.

The minute Ishita goes however, she takes advantage. And that's what we saw in the past seven years. Ishita is gone, and shaguniya attempts her level best to take her place. She does Create a place for herself in the home. She does. But it still isn't, it can't be, Ishita's place.
So she settled. She has everything, nearly, that she lost. Nearly. Raman can barely tolerate her
For more than a minute.

And even she knows she can't replace Ishita.
Doesn't stop her from trying though.

And the minute Raman, in his anger asks her to marry him, she thinks, yes, I've got everything now.

She was an opportunist when she left Raman. She's an opportunist when she tries to get married to him again

When it suits her, she is practically Ishita's disciple. The minute Raman and Ishita are in conflict, she uses every excuse under the sun to justify her wanting permanence in the household.

Forget shades, and her sudden goodness, or her chameleon affect, Shagun looks for her opportunities and strikes.

And now she's going to get desperate. Because she's running out of opportunities, now the one that no one could ever, ever replace is back.

Ishita Bhalla came after Shagun, and replaced her within minutes. Shaguniya has been at it for seven years, and Raman can beardy giver her the time of day.

So if we talk in shades now, current shade is desperation. I guess that coverts into black.

She started her journey taking pride in the idea Raman could never get over her. But he fell in love with Ishita within a year, and fell so deeply in love, has spent the last seven years not able to move on.

As Gan's hilarious post yesterday demonstrated, karma is b***h.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Well worded and perfect once again Zoya ๐Ÿ˜Š

There is a dialogue in Jab We Met, where Geet says 'Mai meri favourite hun' ...ideally that's how it should be for all of us. We should be able to love our own self first. But with Shagun that is the only meaning of her existence. Everything she does, everything she is ...is all for herself.

She left Raman years back FOR money, fame, luxuries. She wanted to have Adi because she could use him as a pawn against Raman. She wanted Ruhi because Ruhi was bringing Raman and Ishita close. She wanted to separate Ishita because she wanted to feel the sadistic pleasure that Raman still loves her.

But when everything failed, and the only person (Adi) who loved her also chose IshRa over her she realized she had lost everything. That may have momentarily made her realize that it was her mistake that had bought her there. But the blinding white shade came about only because she had such an empty and meaningless life that she wanted to have people around her and goodness was the only way to go about it. And that did make her come close to the Bhalla's and kids again...at least she made sure that if she was dying people would still be around her to help save her life.

But as soon as Ishita and Raman parted, she claimed whatever was Ishita's thinking it could be hers...but it never happened. And even now after 7 years of being there in that house she hasn't got any of it. Raman took a year to get over her maybe but even after 7 years only Ishita can stir life back into him.

Shagun took care of Pihu and in a twisted way YES she loves her as well. But Shagun never does anything without reason. Pihu is that one person relying on whom she made a place in that house and to whom she will now cling so she can retain that place and make sure Ishita stays away. She doesn't care for Ruhi or Adi because she knows that they can never choose her over Ishita.

One might feel bad for her after today's scene. I ALMOST did. But the fact is that Shagun has never really loved anyone but herself. Because if she had really changed, if she was really a better person. She wouldn't have let Raman toy with her, she should have refused to marry him. She would have told Pihu about Ishita being her mother even if Raman didn't and she would have thought about her children before she thought of herself if she really loved them...because that is what a mother does, that is what Ishita would have done. Because she is a mother. Shagun may have given birth to three kids, but she's maternal only by her womb and never by her heart.

Her character graph has been interesting for sure. And this time she did need a strong reason to transform to herself again, but I think she never needed much of a push. Because her basic fabric is of being an opportunist...as your topic says.
Edited by -Anku- - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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res
unres.

Absolutely Bang on Zoya about Shaguniya and her ever changing tactics and antics.

I loved her desperation today and am going to love her confrontation with IshRa tomorrow. Kya jal rahi thi yaar??๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†... Get ready for a screaming ride tomorrow. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

I am adding some of my points which I had posted in the daily discussion thread by traveller_girl.

Two segments are dedicated to Shagun to describe her sacrifices, her plight and her pathetic state of life. What a long emotional drama ? My God. ๐Ÿฅฑ๐Ÿฅฑ๐Ÿฅฑ. Not once , even for a millisecond, I felt bad for this so-called woman...And what a background score for her dialogues? ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘. The joke is that the background emotional music was not at all complimented by the acting and expressions. It was very poor acting. AH really sucks in emotional scenes. She only fares well in the screaming and screeching scenes.๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿผ

The irony is KP and DT being such fabulous actors with ultimate expressions are not given such a privilege for the most important confrontations and emotional scenes. KP poor guy, has to manage with his expressions and body language to convey Raman's mind because of the lack on the CV's part, as his character has been killed royally. And he does that with so much of brilliance and ease. And then we have this actress. What to say. Kalyug yaar.

Coming back to the episode, what I really liked about the whole crap shagun said was that she acknowledges the fact that IshRaRu bond is very strong which cannot be broken at any cost. She realized that when she cannot get the love and affection from her own biological daughter for the kind of mother she is, Pihu leaving her and getting back to IshRa is just a matter of time. She accepted that they are a perfect family. She forgot about Adi. But then, she always forgets about those who turn against her and shows her the mirror, be it Mihir, be it Adi... A lady immersed in self and sees nothing beyond her.. A shame in the name of motherhood. Leave alone mother hood, shame on woman hood. Shame on humanity.

Mihir was saying that he saw glimpses of old shagun who can destroy everyone. Well, beta, we all saw old shagun every time she acted like a Devi. Since she was helpless and did not have the moral support to plot against IshRa and monetary support for her luxurious life she became a saint.

Once Ishita is not in scene, she started playing her dirty games. But Raman, Adi, Bhallas and even the Iyers were wise enough to keep her in the right place. Just pamper her with praises and nothing beyond that. LOL. ๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†. She was saying that Ishita was an aaya to Ruhi. Ironically, she is nothing more than an aaya to Pihu, a sophisticated aaya. That is it. Now that Ishita has come back to snatch that as well, madam has started the blame game again. She is blaming everyone for her current plight. Shagun can never be wrong you know...Shagun can never be responsible for anything that happens in her life. Only other can be you know...Yup...Poor Soul.๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†

Anyways, I am just waiting for IshRa to sort out their problems and get back together more stronger this time. It will be super fun to watch Shagun and her plans fail miserably.

Sorry if I did not make sense. If the subject involved is Shagun, I just let loose. I really do not check the flow. So do not mind if my words did not make sense.

A contented me for today...๐Ÿ˜ƒ

Cheers
Priya
Edited by priyadarshini.r - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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shagun act like ishita , behaving like ishita , dress like her, talking like her to get her place , but she fill all these years she was living in dream never want to wake up, but ishita return was as hard slap on her face that you are nother ishita & you never can get her place
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Like they say ...insaan apni adat badal sakta hai par fitrat nahi.
U could always change the way u speak or behave but ultimately ur thinking proves what u actually are.
Edited by sarsyed - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Shagun was and is always selfish...she knows raman loves ishita...then why she wanted him to marry her, just so that only she can be happy...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Copying my comment from other thread
I felt disgusted with her scene
They r justifying her neg avtaar now..
They used emotional bg for her...it cud b done with a simple way..
She doesnt deserve to b a human..
She wants pihu (as she said)...so she wants ruhi to b dead...apne hi bachcho me partiality..
She knows very well y ruhi always ishita over her..
If her love n care is genuine then y she is insecure ...pihu too will nvr choose ishita like ruhi didnt choose shagun..
She is harping over her marriage instead of being happy n running for ruhi...she is a witch..n some ppl hv guts to defend her...

And i dont believe raman went to her for pihu..
Raman is not that selfish who forced her to take care of his daughter instead of marrying manoj n lead a happy life...
She herself accepted in an epi she chose pihu bcs she wanted to compensate wat she did with ruhi...
No symathy from my side...

Pihu needs to b saved from her clutches otherwise adi part 2 is on the way...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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awesome analysis dear ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

love it dear

i hate shagun because she is in between our ishra either shagun or anyone who is in between ishra means i hate them like anything

i never want to lie dear moreover love to read when someone scold them ( whoever against ishra ) badly even they use bad words against them i enjoyed it thoroughly

but your are simply superb dear and you used best words for negative characters also like " opportunist word for shagun "

i love your level of standard in writing dear

whether you like any character or not like them also still you never used some harsh words or local language in describing characters really one of the best quality you have it dear moreover we have to learn it from you

you have a magic in writing it make us bind to your writing still moreover going to be future

keep going dear
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Originally posted by: maduragymhasium

awesome analysis dear ๐Ÿ‘

love it dear

i hate shagun because she is in between our ishra either shagun or anyone who is in between ishra means i hate them like anything

i never want to lie dear moreover love to read when someone scold them ( whoever against ishra ) badly even they use bad words against them i enjoyed it thoroughly

but your are simply superb dear and you used best words for negative characters also like " opportunist word for shagun "

i love your level of standard in writing dear

whether you like any character or not like them also still you never used some harsh words or local language in describing characters really one of the best quality you have it dear moreover we have to learn it from you

you have a magic in writing it make us bind to your writing still moreover going to be future

keep going dear


Awesome.. true..
But as per story line . Shagun is center character. She is main lead.

Tomorrow she will be v happy as ruhi will choose her over shagun. That why we have been seeing the ishita in pain and sick. She is ultimate winner .

Sorry. Really really was fed up first. Now I am totally lost due to CVs butchering the story for shagun sake.

My day starts with a good note but when visit the forum and read reviews updates ... I am like ๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ’”

I now really hate this show.

Priya ray . You tell your people that congratulations for making yhm sjagunified. Congrats for making shagun your lead and destroying the true bond of ishra and ishruhu. Hats of to you.
Please end the yhm. We had enough. I would like to sleep peacefully after hard day work at office. After reading updates I feel like puking and nightmare begins.

Thanks to priya ray as you r having only soft cover to your shagun.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Nice take again zoya..
And cvs trying to n justify shagun just makes her all the more uglier than she is..
Had they made her slowly feel hurt. .used and get more insecure of her position in ramans life it was a different story. .but as you rightly put it.. she is ca true opportunist. .she became 'good' when she had nothing left.. she tried to b stay 'good' and like she v said 'be like ishita' when she had nothing to gain...she was pretty much a complete outsider by then. .

And then opportunity struck. ..she got a chance to fill the void that ishita left behind...in ishita's children's lives, in the bhalla family and in Raman's heart..let's say except for pihu., who was a n infant who looked up to her as a mother. ..no one else really could connect with her. . She failed royally. And worst still she couldn't even become a friend or confidante to Raman in 7 long years...forget making a place in his heart...and he made it totally clear that she was noone to him till ishita came back. .
Even a child could guess ramans actions as just a way to drive ishita away and hurt himself. .and even her own son adi could see it..but she chose to be blind..again since she v saw a huge opportunity. ..use raman's hate for ishita to fuel her ambitions๐Ÿฅฑ..and worse still use a baby.l pihu as a weapon if need be...all makings of the same old shagun Arora who left a man who loved her like crazy with a 6 month old infant ..only to fulfill her ambitions. ..

I would go a step further to n say that then she left raman for ashok..and since ashok did not want a woman with baggage.. she left ruhi behind. .but now she wants raman.. and she knows that the way to his heart could be through his kids., so she is now hanging on to het ruse of love for pihu...she knows that's the only way raman could even think of caring for her. ...and thats exactly why she even hated the possibility that ruhi may be alive. ..๐Ÿฅฑ..she once used adi against raman to move on with ashok...and now she will use pihu against ishita to try get raman for herself...yes life has totally come full circle and guess what shagun Arora finds herself again at a crossroad but this time too...she will lose. ๐Ÿฅฑ

As for yhm cvs. ..guys pls continue to give us monologue after monologue to 'justify' tjhe reason why shagun 'had to' turn grey..but no we are not buying it...๐Ÿ˜†..shagun Arora part 1..in all het ugly glory was visible to everyone the say toshi and simmi proposed that raman should marry her. .everything that she has done after that is consciously to become mrs raman bhalla...nothing more ..nothing less..
And yes, making your male lead look like a guy who used poor shagun to make her what she is..is also not going to work, .because we can unfortunately read his eyes. ..๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜†..and we don't even bother about how much you try butcher him to justify the actions of your second female lead.. (that's what cvs think shagun is)..we are not buying that too..
Instead..we are having a huge laugh at the plight of shagun arora..almost bhalla๐Ÿ˜†..take that for sadism cvs๐Ÿ˜†

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