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Posted: 9 years ago
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Greetings!

I had written this for my tumblr post, reposting that over here. No energy or patience to write all of that again.

Red Meat || SPN 11X17 || The episode that made the fandom 'almost' die too. 😳


1) The fact that this episode started off with Sam being shot in the gut was enough to trigger the panic alarms off.

2) More than the episode itself, I think it was the direction and the pace which 'almost' made me forget how to breathe. 😳

3) Two guys who risked their own lives to save him and his lady and all Corbin could think was about themselves. Normal human tendency abielt extremely ungrateful, never mind the fact Dean would have anyway finished him off upon learning the truth. The only reason he didn't actually was I believe, Michelle.

4) Sam's dying and all he can think of is, is to save everyone else's lives. Such stark difference in a Winchester's priorities and Corbin's. Ah, well, that's because Sam's not a human. He's super human. #SuperHumanAlert1

5) Dean's heightened frustration and vulnerability while making a make-shift stretcher and how he had to compose himself for the sake of others had me in knots. :(

6) Dean's reaction to Sam being dead. No breaking down, no sinking in. He's been in this position too many times now and so he's all already to go out guns blazing and be with his baby brother but eventually deciding to save lives because that is what they do, because that is what Sammy would have wanted him to do. #SuperHumanAlert2

7) The look on Dean's face when he said, 'I'll come back for you' and when he gave him one last look before leaving. THAT face, THOSE expressions, THAT one perfect tear. *internally crying* 🥺

8) Dean's suicidal attempt in order to save Sam. I'd expect him to find other ways to reach Billie but didn't expect this one at all. However, considering the circumstances he was in, this was possibly the quickest method. No use of reaching out to Amara/Crowley/Lucifer or anybody else a) because they're all unreachable right now b) because his biggest threat was Billie in this scenario. He had already lost enough precious time on hands, he wouldn't waste more. Heart-breaking, gut-wrenching and painful (Well, figuratively atleast) though to have watched Dean suffer this horrible way. 🥺

9) The moment when of Sam's reawakening was the moment air started to fill my lungs again. Had almost went numb with the two Winchesters on the verge of dying. Sam's been shot in the gut, he's fatally wounded, profusely bleeding, immensely pained, can barely hold himself up, is losing breath with each passing moment and he takes on two Werewolves, drives himself to the hospital to take down another Werewolf and save his brother's life. IS THIS MAN FOR REAL? Oh yes, he's SAM WINCHESTER. No one gets to take down a Winchester that easily. Would have been such a pleasure had we got to see the look of pure horror on Corbin's face to realize who just took him down like a boss. #SuperHumanAlert3

10) Amidst the chaos, Dean recovers from his suicide attempt like he had just caught cold. No medical attention needed, right back to saving lives. #SuperHumanAlert4

11) Michelle deserves a mention too for being such a brave woman, for showing courage and honesty in difficult times.

12) Not a shipper and with due respect, I think it'd be fair enough to not make every episode and every scene about destiel or any other ship for that matter. We're all free to interpret, speculate and theorize as we like but sometimes, there's nothing really to read in between the lines. That last scene, I believe, wasn't anything to do with destiel at all. Yes, Cas was on Dean's mind at the start of the episode and he probably was at the back of Dean's mind the entire time and why shouldn't he be? He's Castiel, after all but Dean was perhaps just introspecting on his own advice that he gave to Michelle, IMO. That when you have seen the people you love die, when you have seen people you love die for you or because of you, when you have been through all sorts of crap, there's no 'normal' after that. Not really.

13) Sam and Dean walking out of the hospital (like it was just another day at work), in one single piece, heads, hearts and priorities still in place, will and determination unshaken. #SuperHumanAlert5

14) Dean lying to Sam for the umpteenth time. Winchesters don't really learn, do they? 😆

15) Oh and Billie must be supremely pissed. The games the Winchesters play with her kind LOL.

Also, Jared and Jensen are a blessing to this show. They're such incredibly talented and fine actors. <3

Feel free to discuss.

PS I may not have covered the minus points of the episode (if they are any) because, well, my head was already too full. 😆

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Posted: 9 years ago
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I liked the episode and it sure did increased my heart beat...yes the direction was good...AGREED...when Corbin was choking Sammy..i was like dean come fast through that door and kick Corbin in the a**😡...Aww Sam is #SuperHuman..definitely...dean was so on edge and it made me ...the way he looked when he left standing at the door looking at Sam lifeless body...#Feels...but not before promising to come back for him...I TOTALLY LIKE IT...MY OPT😭...A single man tear...geez...dean taking pills and that seizures and dean vulnerability and his decision to save Sam and make deal with Billie...#ThatsOurDean...indeed they r superhuman 😆...yep special mention to michelle...she was good...i don't think there was any desteil in todays epis...cass is a dear friend and worrying for him is fine...haha lying is like #TheirThing🤣...i so wanted to see Sammy reaction when dean wud have said that he did a suicide attempt to save him so wanted to seee the look on Sam face😆...haha Billie billie🤣...#SuperhumanJ2 😉... Thumbs up from my side to the episode
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Posted: 9 years ago
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excellent analysis, annihilation 😃
loved the super human points...
I was not satisfied with the explanation for Sam's comeback... he had been shot in the gut, suffocated, yet killed those pure blood werewolves, not to mention Corbain as well...
What was the entire purpose behind dean's suicide, if sam hadn't been dead at all?? 😕 and how could he talk to the Reaper, if he was just on the threshold of life and death?? What the heck??
anyway... Jensen and Jared saved the episode for me, but with the story not making sense, I was disappointed... they shouldn't have shown dean 75% dead for sam to just take a huge breath and roar back to life!!
what a joke, that reaper has been turned into!!! 😳
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: flutterby

excellent analysis, annihilation 😃

loved the super human points...
I was not satisfied with the explanation for Sam's comeback... he had been shot in the gut, suffocated, yet killed those pure blood werewolves, not to mention Corbain as well...
What was the entire purpose behind dean's suicide, if sam hadn't been dead at all?? 😕 and how could he talk to the Reaper, if he was just on the threshold of life and death?? What the heck??
anyway... Jensen and Jared saved the episode for me, but with the story not making sense, I was disappointed... they shouldn't have shown dean 75% dead for sam to just take a huge breath and roar back to life!!
what a joke, that reaper has been turned into!!! 😳


Well, I can't say how medically accurate was the explanation because I don't have that much knowledge about it. But from what I have read about the episode in reviews and else where, the explanation was medically accurate.

A bullet in the gut can take a long time to bleed the person out making him die. Dean said Sam's body went into a shock because of the smothering that reduced his heartbeat to the lowest. So, Sam 'almost' died but revived. As for Dean, when one attempts suicide, there's always a time frame within which the person may be saved, that is what happened to him. Reapers show up when a person is on a verge of dying which is how Billie showed up and Dean did what he did because he assumed Sam to be dead.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: flutterby

excellent analysis, annihilation 😃

loved the super human points...
I was not satisfied with the explanation for Sam's comeback... he had been shot in the gut, suffocated, yet killed those pure blood werewolves, not to mention Corbain as well...
What was the entire purpose behind dean's suicide, if sam hadn't been dead at all?? 😕 and how could he talk to the Reaper, if he was just on the threshold of life and death?? What the heck??
anyway... Jensen and Jared saved the episode for me, but with the story not making sense, I was disappointed... they shouldn't have shown dean 75% dead for sam to just take a huge breath and roar back to life!!
what a joke, that reaper has been turned into!!! 😳


Reaper's always comes when u r almost dying but not dead. Thats where they come to take your soul.

It has been that case since season 2. Also not the first time Dean has faked death to meet reaper's or Death. That also is an age old trick now.

There was no purpose to Dean dying. Its either bring back Sam or let him go where Sam is. That has always been the purpose of Dean's existence 😆

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Catching up with supernatural and just saw Red Meat'.

So this episode,

Sam dies.

Dean dies.

Sam lives.

Dean lives too.

First of all, why do I keep forgetting to NOT eat while watching the show, all that bloody close shots :|

Also Corbin, how about you DON'T kill the people who saved your damm lives. While I understand that its human to put yourself and your loved one first but, come on, try to be atleast a tad bit grateful :|

Sam Winchester, killing werewolfs while having a dammed bullet inside him , after recovering from being mostly' dead (W*F is mostly ?). Badass level- Winchester
Dean trying to safe those people, trying to put his grief on hold for others, while thinking that his brother, Sammy is dead - Superhunter level - Winchester.

Dean's way to to bring back Sam is to die. Again. :| Wow Winchester logic.

Billie must be really pissed at them though. lol :v

Also, Michelle, that poor girl suffered so much. Makes me thing how much can your life can turn upside down in one day. She was such a strong woman.

Now Jared and Jensen, I have said this again and again but they are SUCH BRILLIANT actors, they never cease to amaze me and its beautiful.

Sam's pain and determination.

Dean's grief, desperation and aggression.

These guys portray each of the boy's emotions so perfectly


While I have seen the Winchesters die and almost a lot, everytime it hurts so much *unless its the mystery spot ofcorse*, and to able to keep up those emotion after all these years is great I think.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: SilentSilver

Catching up with supernatural and just saw Red Meat'.

So this episode,

Sam dies.

Dean dies.

Sam lives.

Dean lives too.

First of all, why do I keep forgetting to NOT eat while watching the show, all that bloody close shots :|

Also
Corbin, how about you DON'T kill the people who saved your damm lives.
While I understand that its human to put yourself and your loved one
first but, come on, try to be atleast a tad bit grateful :|

Sam Winchester, killing werewolfs while having a dammed bullet inside him , after recovering from being mostly' dead (W*F is mostly ?). Badass level- Winchester
Dean trying to safe those people, trying to put his grief on hold for others, while thinking that his brother, Sammy is dead - Superhunter level - Winchester.

Dean's way to to bring back Sam is to die. Again. :| Wow Winchester logic.

Billie must be really pissed at them though. lol :v

Also,
Michelle, that poor girl suffered so much. Makes me thing how much can
your life can turn upside down in one day. She was such a strong woman.

Now
Jared and Jensen, I have said this again and again but they are SUCH
BRILLIANT actors, they never cease to amaze me and its beautiful.

Sam's pain and determination.

Dean's grief, desperation and aggression.

These guys portray each of the boy's emotions so perfectly


While
I have seen the Winchesters die and almost a lot, everytime it hurts so
much *unless its the mystery spot ofcorse*, and to able to keep up
those emotion after all these years is great I think.


kabhi mauka nahi Mila kehna ka but UR DP IS OSM🤣...spn gives us emotional high
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kit_Kat


kabhi mauka nahi Mila kehna ka but UR DP IS OSM🤣...spn gives us emotional high


haha thankyou. :v Credit goes to the maker .
But Crowley with hell stuff = me with college stuff. No kidding🤣
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@SilentSilver-studies r boring as hell...#CrowleySaidRightly
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Winchesters die once again , grrr ... and live once again .. grrr .. grrr .. 😡

Once again a Whinchester does something almost stupid to save another dead Winchester .. grrr .. grrr .. for me the highlight of the episode was when Sam asks Dean " what did you do when you thought I was dead ?".. ⭐️ .. the real answer was " same old , same old " .. 😆


But I liked the episode .. 😃

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