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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: aparnauma

Anandi was a child. But she was the first one to rush to the venue of the wedding and Bhairon followed her.

Anandi took the initiative to stop it.Bhairon being older did what is needed.

It is not Bhairon's decision. It was Anandi's.

If Anandi didn't care about it it wouldn't have occurred to Bhairon Singh to go and stop that child marriage.After all that was not the first child marriage that happened in that village😛

Dsa said what has that got to do with us?Let people do what they want.


Why would Bhairon Singh who happily did child marriage of both his children would rush to stop child marriage😛




It was 30 april 2009 episode. Anandi was not behind stopping Phooli's marriage. It was Anandi's mother who informed Bhairo about Phooli's marriage and Bhairo-Basant stopped the marriage. The written update says :

"Bhairav reaches Phooli's house with Basanth, Bhavri, Khajan, Bhagvati and the kids. He stops the wedding and shouts at Jagan Singh for keeping such a big thing from him. He tells Jagan that he realises that he lied and borrowed money since he knew he was doing something wrong. He demands to know why he fixed Phooli's wedding to such an old man."

In precap of 28th April - Bhago told Bhairo about Phooli's marriage. Anandi was just present there- as was J. It was their marriage anniversary and they were in party. Where Bhago told Bhairo and Bhairo went to stop marriage.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: leavesandwaves

Anandi's bias works in both ways. She will not get Mangala to be put in jail though Mangala committed a crime. She will show partiality and accord all love towards Mangala while punishing Akheraj strictly for the same crime.


Mangala's running away is not good - but how it is a crime? She ran away with the child living with her. She did not kidnap the child from her mother's home.
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Posted: 10 years ago


I had sworn not comment on the legality/illegality of child marriage Act as the arguments were becoming circular and I was getting fatigued.


I had in fact made a detailed post based on what the law actually said. But I find that people are still insisting the law works differently for Urmi and for Pooja.

This is what the 2006 law says:

3. Child marriages to be voidable at the option of contracting party being a child. - (1) Every child marriage, whether solemnised before or after the commencement of this Act, shall be voidable at the option of the contracting party who was a child at the time of the marriage:
Provided that a petition for annulling a child marriage by a decree of nullity may be filed in the district court only by a contracting party to the marriage who was a child at the time of the marriage.

(2) If at the time of filing a (annulment) petition, the petitioner is a minor, the petition may be filed through his or her guardian or next friend along with the Child Marriage Prohibition Officer.


In other words, either Kundan or Urmi could have filed for annulling their marriage in the district court. But only in a situation where they have reached adulthood which they have not.

Indeed, because both are treated as minor clause(2) kicks in, which means that the annulment petition could be filed by either child's guardian or next friend (usually someone who represents the child's interests and appointed by court) along with the Child Marriage Prohibition Officer. And this has to be done in the district court/family court

In Kundan-Urmi's case Anandi's role was limited to filing a complaint. The annulment of the marriage had to follow the filing of the annulment petition in court, in this case by the guardians as the two are treated as minor.

The marriage cannot be declared void either on Anandi's say-so or by a unilateral decree of the court.

Far worse, the lawyer announced that the Indian law does not recognise child marriage and so it was null and void.

People seem to find all this perfectly acceptable. That on Anandi's complaint, Urmi's father can be arrested and her marriage to Kundan declared void. People even argue that it is none of A's business if the pregnant Urmi is distressed on account of her father being sent to jail.

Yet in Mannu-Pooja case the mollycoddling of the couple is justified on the ground that the marriage was voluntary. Also that Pooja alone can file for annulment. The law does not say anything about voluntary child marriage (obviously because it is absurd).

In other words in Pooja Mannu case, the parents/guardians could have filed for annulment as the two like Urmi-Kundan have been treated as minor.

If for argument sake we accept that MP marriage was voluntary, so was Kundan-Urmi's.

Kundan was dying to get married and Urmi was happy to get married too. She was not forced into it. It is a different matter that she had filmy ideas about marriage.

Manny-Pooja too thought that it was all hunky dory and are realising now how foolish they were.

So why apply two yardsticks for the two child marriages?



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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: SPuja


Mangala's running away is not good - but how it is a crime? She ran away with the child living with her. She did not kidnap the child from her mother's home.



Then akheraj also did not commit a crime. He only snatched in anger. He only killed for honour. He only supported Kundan because he is his son.
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Posted: 10 years ago
Not sure whether K will be punished, but if he is not it is satte pe satta. Why did not Anandi put Mannu n Puja in Jail - Biasness for jagya and Badi Haveli and Sarita.
And BV will have Aradhana story - Mangal being lusted, Nimbuli killing Geeta ka pati. Mangala taking blame and handing over N to A.
Jail mein pisti rahi chakki.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: The_Alchemist.

Kundan consummated with urmi on her consent. If this is still considered as rape due to age factors, that's a good thing. I just hope mannu too gets the same punishment as kundan would get. Mannu-pooja too consummated with her consent. Both couples underwent child marriages. Both girls got pregnant. And the marriages were not annulled by the elders. Same case scenarios.



Guys the important thing is how brutally he consumated his marriage with her. She may have given her consent but later on she was screaming and telling him to stop. This matters only. And this point turns a consensual sex into rape. It has nothing to do with age.
Edited by SONAM.M - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
Mannu did not rape Pooja Mannu did not force himself on her like Kundan did of urmi Pooja consummated with him on her wish why only punishment is demanded for Mannu while Pooja ji becomes fake victim 👎🏼i hope Pooja gets more karmic slaps before she realizes her misdeeds Right now the slime bag pooja is in fake victim mode Disgusting creature 🤢
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: SONAM.M



Guys the important thing is how brutally he consumated his marriage with her. She may have given her consent but later on she was screaming and telling him to stop. This matters only. And this point turns a consensual sex into rape. It has nothing to do with age.


Very well said👏
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: kate-nic

Mannu did not rape Pooja Mannu did not force himself on her like Kundan did of urmi Pooja consummated with him on her wish why only punishment is demanded for Mannu while Pooja ji becomes fake victim 👎🏼i hope Pooja gets more karmic slaps before she realizes her misdeeds Right now the slime bag pooja is in fake victim mode Disgusting creature 🤢

agree wid u.i think P is not realizing anything shes in blame on oders & self victim mode rite now as all r sympathising wid he r bcoz of that accident of not conceiving 4ever.. thatswhy all blame on M .wen she heard Sr & A's talks on N i thot she"ll realize how lucky she got but she din't. i think she"ll realize wen N will b back & she"ll see how much N lost bcoz of her & she still did from wat she w as saved.
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Posted: 10 years ago
Urmi&Kundan and Pooja& Mannu; both couples have to be treated diffrently. There are diffrenences in both cases:

1.: Marriage:
-Urmi & Kundan had a child marriage as their parents deceided to get them married. Though it was Kundan who was desperate to get married (you guys know why)

- Whereas Pooja & Mannu got married theirselves, means without aking anyone for permission. It was their own decision.

The only similiarity is that both couples underwent child marriages

2.: Consumption
Kundan forced himself on Urmi. I already explained in my previous post how it is considered as a rape.

Mannu never forced Pooja to sleep with him. They both knew what they are doing and it was mutual.

Similiarity: Both girls got pregnant.

Kundan and Mannu can't and should not get the same punishment. Kundan commited a crime: He raped Urmi and attempted to rape Nimboli. What crime did Mannu do, expect taking a naive step to marry Pooja, who on the other hand is blaming him for all the mess. She is equally responsible.

3. Remorse:
Kundan na kabhi sudharne walo 😆
Where Mannu is feeling quilty and asking for forgiveness.

Similiarty:
Both guys are crying buckets now!




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