Will Mangala really call Anandi? - Page 5

Originally posted by: anshurg5

@ Bold And that is enough to show the material that women are made off.

Btw Aparna, All the understanding for Harki's vicious ways but none for Mangla who every steps does some good not only for Nandini but for every one who is oppressed, when both have suffered and Mangla much more than Harki? 😉😆 Why this special treatment for Harki? 😆

There is a difference btw in joining hand with oppressor and start behaving like him and not being able to openly fighting against oppressor but doing all small things to make oppressed life better. I will certainly hate first one and go for the second one.

She could have asked directly from Kundan but did not dare due to fear of Akhiraj but when Mangla did not dare to run away from that house which is her home due to Akhiraj and due to her fear of unknown she is bashed badly then why Harki is spared?

Not only this if she has suffered herself and did not approve Akhiraj ways then she should have tried to raise her son in a better way so that he would not have turned another oppressor after growing up. As a mother who spends more time with her kid she could have instilled better values in him so that he would not have followed his father's example blindly and could have become a better human being like his sister who at least understands the difference btw right and wrong.

And there was another option of running away from that house for saving his son from Akhiraj's influence just like Ganga did and Mangla was advised to do for Nimboli. Who forced her to cope up with Akhiraj's ways. Why she is not bashed like Mangla for not running away from that house even for the sake of her son's future? She toh had a son who had less danger from predators. She could have become another DS. 😛

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As for the little girl foisted on her against her wishes then that little girl too was brought there against her own wishes or rather her mother's wishes by her own husband then why she could not felt empathy for her? Only a vicious , wicked, cruel woman could have been harsh with the innocent girl who landed there without any fault of her.

Even if that little girl was unwanted she was still removing her son's dosh thus doing a service to her and her dear son. Did she not deserve little compassion in lieu of her that service?

@ Red, It is totally mocking of good intentions and good efforts of these two women in the same way as Jagan fans mock Anandi's good hearted efforts. For them she too poke her nose every where as the burden of whole world is upon her and it could not do well without her services.

Actually every good person's efforts to make a small difference are mocked like this by most of the ppl.

Originally posted by: aparnauma

Originally posted by: anshurg5

If people think that Mangala is great because she tries to keep that little gir out of trouble. They are free to do so.

Yes I do think that Mangla is a good woman if not great because of her attempts to save that little girl from the likes of AKhiraj, Harki and Kundan. And I am free to do that.

If people feel that Mangala's feelings for that little girl are not altruistic and not all selfless as it is being made out they are free to do so.But for interpreting this character this way they need not be labelled as bashers of Mangala.

When ever a discussion is initiated about the women Vs Akheraj why only this point brought in defence of Mangala?

Why in a discussions W Vs A Mangla needs to be defended? Is she supporting Akhiraj or making other women of his house suffer?

When a neutral discussion to discuss about coping mechanisms in the world of Akheraj and the women are solely assessed on their methods and approaches why is only this thing brought constantly?

Because their coping mechanism can not be discussed in isolation without considering their characters and their traits which are visible when we see their behavior with other ppl of their house like Nandini, Kamli ,Kundan and even Urmi.

Why no discussion about Mangala's short comings allowed? Why is it always diverted to her protectiveness towards that girl?

There is no dearth of discussions of Mangla's short comings . But why ppl can not go beyond her short comings and refuses to see any good quality in her? Why there are attempts to turn her good qualities into bad ones?

She is not only protective for that girl but every other person who is suffering near by her. That is enough to show that she has some good qualities also .

Why should she be not assessed for the ways she adapts ?

If she is assessed for the methods she adopts than why Harki is defended for her methods ?

Nandini is criticised for throwing stones

Why Mangala cannot be criticised for putting up with that sleaze guy's attempts taunts from Harki and putting up with humiliations?

Why same criteria is not applied for Harki? Why she is digesting all the physical abuse and insults from Akhiraj? And in turn taking out her frustration on other innocents who are not able to stand up against her.

Mangla at least does not do that .

Why Mangala cannot be criticised for not moving out of Akheraj house? Why she cannot be criticised for not using that knife against Akheraj?

Because she has devised a more effective method to keep him at bay. And who knows she might have used that knife against Akhiraj in the past.That is why she knows its usefulness and has given it to Nandini.

Why she cannot be criticised for not using that knife as a weapon to protect herself in the big bad world while making a life for herself?

Because a knife can not save her if there are more than one man. In that respect Mangla and Nimboli are safe in that house as they have to fight only against one man at a time which is possible with the help of a knife.

Why the only answer that comes for all these questions is she saved that girl?

No it is not true , proper explanations are given for the respective questions in the past also. You can check other threads

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Why can't she be criticised for the means she uses to save that girl?

She is using only means available to her. Would it have better if she has not used them and let Nandini suffer her fate at the hands of Akhiraj and Harki?

Btw it is also said that some times doing a good deed is more important than cribbing about not so fair means. Kanha ji himself adopted means which are not always fair to achieve his greater goals for mankind. Mangla toh is just a poor mortal only.

If Anandi's actions are tried to discuss or if anyone tries to see them in a different light they are labelled as blind fans of Anandi who are not capable of looking beyond the character

If people have a different take on Mangala they are called Mangala bashers

Anandi do have faults enough like Mangla but we overlook them because of her kind heart and good intentions. Even her methods are sometimes not beyond reproach but if one can explain hose why that one can not apply same liberal approach while discussing Mangla's methods and character?

Anybody who is nice to that girl is good and anyone who is not nice to that girl is bad.Irrespective of their characters and the personalities as shown by the CVs.

I do not think a general viewer is able to find hidden grey traits in Mangla's character .

As for CVs except few initial scenes where they have shown her little bit of a psycho woman , I think they are not trying to project her as a grey woman by every day showing her doing something good. 😆

No I don't want to discuss any fan groups here.If you think I am some frenzied fan of one character and basher please feel free to do so.

I prefer to stay away from calling some one frenzied fan or anything of that kind so you please feel free to do what you like.

Originally posted by: anshurg5

Even if she did join hand with Akhiraj , he was not forcing her to become cruel with Nandini in every day's treatment of her .

The way she treated 6 month old Nandini , told which kind of woman was she. Not a bit of compassion and concern for the girl who was snatched from the comfort of her mother's arms by her cruel husband.

She is actually more wicked and selfish than Akhiraj .

She was having the power to make Nandini's life much better even if she could not have changed all the things but she only contributed in making her life more of a hell.

Originally posted by: leavesandwaves

She is definitely cruel-selfish as of now...but has chances of redemption in future...if someone questions her conscience & actions like the way Mangala did yesterday.

She had compassion only for Kamli and Urmila. Never for Nimboli.