Important things missing in this serial

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Ravan serial is showing many things against commonly accepted beliefs. But it may be argued that there are many versions of Ramayan and the makers of the serial have every right to show some not-so-common beliefs.
I agree with this argument. Even though I personally may have different beliefs, I must not blame others for having beliefs different from mine. As Valtaire said,
"I may not agree with what you say. But I will defend till death your right to say it."

But there is one criticism I do have regarding the serial Ravan:- stories seem to be inconsistent. It is quite evident that the makers of the serial want to highlight good qualities of Ravan. Nothing wrong in that. From 10th September's episode, it is quite evident that they also want to show Ram as God (because the episode had chanting "Jai Ram Jai Jai Ram"). Nothing wrong in that also. But what is wrong is that the serial has not intervowen these two things in a consistent manner.

They have already shown that Lord Ram has been born. They are showing Ram as God. It is obvious they will show Ram killing Ravan. God does not descend on Earth to kill somebody just like that. If God came on Earth to kill Ravan, this means Ravan must be very evil. But has the serial really shown Ravan as so evil?

Serial started by showing that Ravan is killing sages. Somebody may say it is wrong. But the serial has justified it by saying that the sages were indulging in wrong practices. It has been shown that Ravan killed Vidyut Jivah. But even this has been justified by saying that Vidyut Jivah's culture was so bad that he even killed his own mother. Ravan finalizing Kumbhkaran's marriage without Kumbhkaran's agreement may be wrong. But it is not so wrong that God has to come and destroy Ravan.

Before 10th september's episode, Ravan was nowhere shown as really evil; all his actions were justified. In 10th September's episode, it was just mentioned that Ravan's immoral behavior started. But did they really show him as evil? No. When they have to show that God came on Earth to kill Ravan, then they must show as to why God had to destroy Ravan. They have not shown it clearly.

The makers of the serial wanted to show that Ravan was not always bad. Fine. If they want to show good qualities of Ravan, it is all right. But, before showing the birth of Lord Ram, they must have shown evils of Ravan.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Let me try to answer you:
On sep 10th episode Ravan clearly accepted that he does things only for his benefits, he called himself selfish. To justify that so far they have showed:
- Ravan was born in risi kul still he adapted rakh kul
- He wants everyone to adapot rakh by hook or krook - he killed his sister's hubby & his wife's sister's hubby
- He made his brothers marry the girls whole loved him
- he wants to kill his own kid
- he took over Lanka from his brother

who does these type of things??
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Ravan adapted raksh kul. We may think it wrong but according to Ravan serial, it was a good thing. Killing sister's hubby was also bad. But even that was justified in the serial. The serial is showing that the culture of rishis was bad and Ravan was doing the right thing by forcing them to adopt raksh culture. He took over Lanka from Kuber. But the serial has shown that Kuber was happy to give Lanks to Ravan after Ravan gave to Kuber Alkapuri. Getting Vibhishan marry the girl who loved Ravan was wrong but not so bad that God had to descend to kill him.
Yes, wanting to kill his own kid is really despicable. But the serial did not show it in sufficient detail.

Please note. I am not saying that Ravan did not do wrong. I believe he did. But I am talking from the point of view of the serial. In the serial, it is continuously shown that Ravan was somebody very nice. Even if he did something which can be considered bad, the makers of serial in majority of cases justified Ravan's acts. Then suddenly they show that God has descended on Earth. This is what I find inconsistent.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: akhl



They have already shown that Lord Ram has been born. They are showing Ram as God. It is obvious they will show Ram killing Ravan.



They have already shown that in the beginning of the serial, including the "Jai Ram" chant. The serial started after Meghnad's death and in the 4th episode Ram killed Ravan. Ravan is currently narrating the story to Lakshman.


Edited by Kal El - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Yes, but the serial has not shown as to why exactly God had to descend on Earth. If it is said that God came on Earth to kill Ravan, then they must show as to what Ravan did because of which God had to incarnate to kill Ravan.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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What is even stranger is that Lord Vishnu has disappeared from the story. He was there early on when Ravan was very young but now he is absent. Even the devas are not shown, just mentioned in discussions. 😕

I think something has gone wrong at the script stage. I have had suspicions ever since the sudden end of the teen Ravan and jump to adult Ravan. I remember at the beginning of the show there was an article that said the director and writer had disagreements over some controversial material that the writer wanted to portray. Maybe that conflict has come to the forefront again.

Maybe it's a TRP issue and Zee wants to end this show or something. Dunno. 😕
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Posted: 17 years ago
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I think that the creatives wanted to portray positive qualities of Ravan, which are very little known. But when the serial progressed, they were afraid that viewers may not like if their cherished beliefs are attacked. Because of this, the creatives could not show consistent stories.
In the start of the serial, they went so overboard in showing Ravan as positive that they criticized all those who were against Ravan. They even once mentioned Vishnu as selfish and greedy. Going by this logic Ram also should be greedy because Ram is Vishnu's incarnation. But the creatives realized that Ram's devotees will hate if Ram is shown in poor light. Because of all these reasons, the creatives could not understand what to show and what not to show.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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You could be right akhl. It is very much possible that the producers developed cold feet and demanded that the controversial stuff be reduced. The writing has since become haphazard. They have ruined the writer's original vision and that is never a good thing to do. It ruins the consistency and flow of the narrative. In the last episode they rushed through everything. It was very difficult to digest.

Plus I find it difficult to reconcile the current Ravan with old Ravan we saw in the beginning of the serial. At that time we saw Ravan in his last days and they portrayed him as a positive person. For example: he chose not to use his Brahmastra so that the world would not be destroyed by the collision of two Brahmastras and he bravely accepted death with a smile. Even as he lay dying he held no grudge against Vibhishan - instead he advised his younger brother about ruling wisely and all. This Ravan maybe in line with the young Ravan but the current Ravan is very different. The old Ravan showed no sign of evil unlike the current version. Yup the serial makers are definitely confused as to what to do. I have no idea how they are going to wrap up the show because they will have to return to the dying Ravan when the flashback ends. How will they reconcile the two Ravans?

It is sad that they got scared. If they had set out to show something they should stick with it till the end. Instead of mutilating the script they could have had the writer appear on the show and explain to the audience what they are doing and all. 😊
Edited by Kal El - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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i agree with akhl.....They have not really stressed the evil of Ravan.....Seems like Ram has been born to kill him just for the fun of it....which is not true.......

Yes, the story is very inconsistent.......by now.....Meghnad should've been born and in his teens........also.....I've never heard that Kaikeyi took the four brothers out of Vashist's ashram, just so she could teach them how to fight.

Also, if Ram is born, that means Ravan should've already made all the planets prisoner........however.......the show hasn't even shown him capturing one.......Ravan is supposed to be causing havoc in the whole Universe.......that is why Vishnu had to incarnate as Ram.....but in the show.......they have only shown him terrorizing sages of Dandaka Forest...

For Ravan, I heard a story that he even attacked Vaikunt, Lord Vishnu's abode. They never show any of that in the show.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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yeah, ram took birth to save earth from ravan..

now ravan has hust started torturing Rishis and Ram is already 16 years old ?????

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