I like this defiant Kamli

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Defiant Kamli is much more watchable. What a spirited fight she is putting up knowing well the result. Harki loves her sindoor too much. So her husband will remain safe.

Mangla's requested melted Kamli. to save Nimboli's life she agrees for the marriage.

So the marriage takes place tomorrow.

What did akheraj say to Kamli? Take NImboli with you? I could not hear properly.

Can Pushkar be called pagal? He has not grownup mentally. But he is not mad or pagal.

CVs should be careful before writing such demeaning words.

Kamli is turning out to be an interesting character. She is ready to sacrifice. Mangla knows how to manage Kamli. She will also convince Nimboli.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Somehow her extreme foolishness in not escaping from the village iASAP is what is striking more than her new found guts.. AK may have hunted them down notwithstanding, she was actually dancing in the fair knowing well there is a temple and her family may come there..
And she had all the time to run away with Gopal even before her wedding got fixed with Pushkar

Gopal's death gone in vain ..
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Posted: 10 years ago
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What was evident is not Kamili's defiance but her foolishness🤢
When Niboli gave her a means with which she could escape and live to fight her battle she just lost the opportunity.

These women in Akheraj house and their approach to life is the root cause for all the problems they face.

With each passing episode it becomes why they need some one like Anandi whose vision has a broad periphery.

Longer Nimboli lives there the chances of her becoming like Mangala are more.🤢


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Posted: 10 years ago
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kamli is opposite of anandi .anandi where as become soft toward her own family even when they wrong did to anandi , , where as kamli can become hard become toward her own family too when her father mother brother do injustice with her

and harki .she is black spot in the name of mother hood .she is such a selfish mother who only care about her sindoor.not about daughter happiness .harki is biggest butterer of akhiraj just to remain suhagaan people like harki keep on tolerating akhiraj toture and asking other to tolerate too
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Pushkar is definitely not pagal. Somehow films and serials think that mental retardation means behaving like a child - mentally retarded people may be as innocent as a child but they don't behave like children - playing with dolls, start weeping on being scolded and laughing when asked to go outside and play🤢 . They may not be coherent, they may not possess social skills according to thier age etc. Pushkar's mother's dialogue (when they agreed for marriage) sums up what creatives think of disabled people.
A big 👎🏼 for creatives.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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The Kamli-Mangla interaction was scintillating and in my opinion one of the most significant and intense interactions between two female characters on BV.

DS- Anandi interactions were intense too but the spark of revolt in Kamli and Mangla rebellion is remarkable for taking place in a very repressive, violent rural context.

In an earlier episode Mangla spoke for caste equality and questioned the patriarchal system. Today Kamli got ready to kill her father. Of course had she not been foolish things wouldn't have not come to this pass. But at least she picked up courage now.

It was poignant that the two women placed Nimboli ahead of their own needs. Could they have done any better? Kamli could have run away to Bombay with Gopal but the consequences would have been borne by little Nimboli.

It came through in the episode how much Nimboli means to both. Mangala could have used the opportunity Anabdi presented but her insecurities must be understood in the extremely repressive context in which she is placed.

But sooner rather than later she will be driven to using Anandi's card.

Edited by rohini55 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Pushkar was referred to as Pagal

But whose view was it? Is it CVs' perception or is it that little girl who perceived him that way in the story?

Or the CVs showing how people perceive mentally retarded people by the society?

Pushkar was called Pagal by an ignorant little girl who has not seen the world and not come across people like that.

Don't think Mangala or Pushkar's parents called him Pagal


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Posted: 10 years ago
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I'm really beginning to like the trio of Mangala-Kamli-Nimboli and the bond they share. It's a bond forged by the terrible oppression they face.

Nimboli's and Kamli's mutual affection is so so different from Anandi-Sanchi relationship. So Kamli is definitely not another Saanchi on the line of BV buas.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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This is a serial and anything can happen that the writer want to include. But can anybody tell me what chances Kamli/Mangala/Harki would have in real life? I have seen a lot of women like these and nobody like Anandi/Ganga/Gahna/Sugna etc. With Anandi/Ganga/Sugna etc. they presented a fairy tale that is hardly ever possible in real life.
An abandoned bride will go to her parents and start her life again. She will not forget her own parents and make in-laws her maika. Almost impossible to get a husband like Shiv.

Ganga ran away with a toddler in arms and nowhere to go. In real life - she most probably ended up begging or worst with some human trafficking agent etc. The child could be snatched by others (beggar gangs etc.) even if she saved him from his monster father.

Story of DS and DB was also farce. DB supposedly brought up her son after her husband left her - how come she was so happy living off her brother and making his family a victim of her evil ways? DS ran away with two sons and did not take a single penny from Mahavir Singh's house. What did she do to make an empire? She was not educated, she did not have money to start a business - it is all in imaginary world. I still remember an episode where a young Anandi asked what dadasa gave to her (while seeing the ornaments) and DS proudly show her lots of ornaments. When she did not take anything from Nagaur haveli, where the ornaments came?

We cannot blame ladies like Harki/Mangla/Kamli for the situation they are in and say that they are the reason people like Akhera are ruling. Harki is wrong with the way she treats Nimboli, Kamli is wrong with her loving a lower caste man and not taking timely action when she knew what this alliance means, or at last when she had a chance to run away - did not care for her safety etc. But was it possible for her to run away unless Gopal was ready? And Gopal did not care for his parents and friends - was it prudent to leave them to face consequences of his running away with a girl of another caste?

I will prefer a realistic solution to the problems - not the fairy tale where either a man in shining armor comes and saves the girl and then marriage against all odds, or the stopping of a bal-vivah where only groom's side get arrested or as recently shown - the groom gets beaten up when both the parties are guilty of bal-vivah.

So far creatives have failed to show any real solution to the problems they take up. But this demeaning of disabled people is too much (earlier it was demeaning of women only - basi phool and ye sharir kis kam ka - now someone is labelled as pagal?)
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I think for Mangla and Kamli to show even this much courage is extraordinary. Kamli actually ran away though she foolishly frittered away the chance.

Should she have fallenfor a lower caste boy? I would never hold that to be wrong because if this does not happen society would stay rigid and stagnant. There is a price to pay for this -- as daily incidents of honour killings show. But somebody has to pay the price so that some others can have a comparatively easier life.
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