Jodha Akbar 4 May 2015 'Hilariously Haunting Epi'..Pic Pg-1 - Page 4

Originally posted by: BeaBea

I am of the view that though the Cvs are cunningly choosing their card well to put Jodha on the spot for the next drama.

It is clear no matter what Jalal would prefer his mother alive when he comes back to Agra than come and meet her death so I like Jodha's decision the rest Jalal has already taken care of and he can take care of the rest even if Jodha converts he has the right having won the war to assure the subjects no one can force them to change their religion as compared to what his mother is doing behind his back.

I would rather Jodha get blamed by Jalal for breaking her promise to him and coming back to his senses that whatever she was doing was for him also and the family unity than see HB dead and Jalal and whole Agra blaming Jodha for her death that kind of stigma can't go away soon but nothing love can't cover or forgive if one is determine to let go (like he blamed her for HH death when she was nowhere at fault). At least this time cv team did not take that route either.

Keeping HB alive by choosing to do what she wants as the elder of the family and her mother in law is not being stupid or against her husband the is the best she can do at this point: it is being smart and brave though she knows it will come with a price she is taking this one with hope that Jalal's love is stronger to forgive than see HB death. As she said Jalal can forgive her not keeping her faith or promise to him but will he be able to forgive her that because of her his mother is dead? This is a sacrifice with hope that Jalal would understand this is her only option. (Well I guess she is in the mood of once bitten twice shy).

She even was faithful to her words and promise that she carried it out now let's see if that same HB can stand by Jodha the same way when her son finds her alive in Agra at his return and everything seems well and smooth.

Jodha doesn't have only her religion in question her relation with her mother in law and the entire house hold is also under fire here. If Jalal was present then he being the King' might support or override his mother's pressure and persuasions for Jodha to convert.

I wonder which of us here will prefer her mother in law death to be on her hands based on something you can solve intelligently. After all Jalal himself is practicing Jodha's religion along with her even though he has not fully become a Hindu so if that option can save his adamant mother who is burnt on put her in trouble putting her (marriage, family and everything she holds dear at stake) I give Jodha A plus having the courage to hope that Jalal loves her enough not to be like his mother or for that matter the Agra community that has her neck for this whole time. Hmm we all no better also in this direction Jodha seems to be the one always giving , always supporting and always sacrificing even when Jalal is in his worse state like the God track lets see if he will be there for her too.

I bet he will be disappointed and will definitely be angry with Jodha without knowing what she has been through. Hopefully though he is not in agreement he will soon reason and understand this was her only option at this point in time and forgives her for not keeping his promise.

Jodha is not weak nor her not keeping promise of Jalal wrong in this senario. We all would have prefer a Jodha with a trump card but well writers decide the other way around the sacrificing Jodha (everyone takes advantage of her) as that is what HB is doing here instead of facing her son she pick Jodha to use Jodha to her benefit knowing well how well brought up woman she is.

Any well raised woman would not go shoulder to shoulder against her mother in law in any circumstance (we don't do that with our own mother so why the mother-in-law) whether she is richer or in higher authority like in this situation been queen mother of India doesn't mean Jodha can go against HB whenever the situation calls for it the best she can do is reason with her respectfully or give in and also no man will be happy with his wife no matter how much he loves you if you disrespect his mother not to talk of you causing her death.

Jodha is better of protecting and respecting HB at this point when the Queen mother' who is supposed to get it together is losing it including all the elders in Agra.

From my experience with my sisters-in-laws (my brothers' wives) none of them will dare go against my mother even if she is having a bone to pick with her sons and she is in the wrong they prefer to play the advocate for her than team up with the husband against mother. Because soon when everything between mother and son is solved you will then see who is the mother-in-law in the house very well (when she starts seeing you as the devil read to separate her from her son).

And God help you if one day your own husband is having problems you and you need a voice of reason or your husband whom you were supporting come back and refer to you that you disrespected my mother' then you will learn not to come between mother and son no matter what.

Anyways let's see how twisted the minds of writers and how far they are willing to go.

Originally posted by: mishtidoi

CVs have actually killed the essence of Jodha in this track...could have taken all of above IF SHE WAS SHOWN TO UNDERSTAND THE CORE ISSUE...BUT she is riding on the same boat as HB as far as the perception of this issue goes. Not once she'd been shown of trying to make HB or anybody else understand the larger view, coz she herself believe from the start, when HB didn't do a turn around, what HB is believing now.

Jodha was never shown to be keeping quite and nodding head type just to be in good books...she went with what she believed and found right...here she is consistent even now.

This is THE Saddest part...she is with Jalal coz of vachan and not coz she thinks that's the right, principled thing.

The familial pressure tactic wouldn't wash down here...Every time EMPEROR WOULDN'T BE AROUND HER TO SAVE THE DAY.

She as MEH has to act with the coterie of ministers present, instead of crying, she should have been brainstorming with her ministers.

MEH is not just for being Golden Hearted, BUT ALSO for being, "TOUGH GETS GOING, WHEN GOING GETS TOUGH".

She is shown as a Krishna bhakt, knows Geeta by heart...does she understands it?

Its more than 20 years of her marriage and she doesn't have a coterie of her own...ridiculous!!! Having a coterie doesn't mean you have to be negative...even Salima and HB has got one, but Jodha has only Moti...what does this say, that she's not been accepted in Harem after all these years???

CVs are using their usual family drama here, which wouldn't work coz this is no common business family, but one which manages whole of the country.

The sorcery track is the worst of the lot...wouldn't be watching

I totally agree that this is the worse track ever in JA.

CV team has developed a chain of stupidity in this track and am hoping it would end with Jalal only if he joins in does it I am off.

Like you mentioned we saw HB initially supporting her son then all of a sudden she we saw her given in to pressure from the Iran priests (whom by the way have vanish through thin air) and then we had HB going against her son and putting her daughter in law on the spot forcing her to go against her husband and her son's wish. What kind of mother is she or mother in law is she?

Then we saw the mantle shift to Jodha now she has to change her position twice first Jalal made her understood his position and she said the same to HB so why can't the cv team make her hold that fort even if she doesn't understand the whole picture right from the beginning? That was not might to be; she was not supposed to be strong against HB she was supposed to give in whether she likes it or not.

It was even a good time to make usefully of TM and Bribal coming up with all kinds of solution and buying time till Jalal shows up and save the day but alas ...

And all the love letters would have been a mentor and support letters back and forth where Jodha is given Jalal updates and him giving encouragement if these writers are serious and not just doing cut and paste and absurd story lines getting on peoples nerves with their strange thinking.

Anyways let me just pause cause am trying to maintain my last nerve.

Originally posted by: mishtidoi

Witches are for wallofying Anar...otherwise this Jalal would've happily blessed Sanar a very happy married life 😆

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Abhay

Sorry but didn't see the repeat and not un-res-ing my post. 😕 Don't have the heart to watch this track.

After a lot of effort, i had got back to watching JA after my last break taken during the leap. Now i don't know if i will ever return to JA even if the "magic returns".

I don't care for the characters or the story lines any more. There is a disconnect. Whether Jodha is fiery or a doormat, whether Jalal is TE or dumb enough to fall under a witch's spell, it matters not. i would rather read about my fave historical figures -JJ, than watch this torture.

the show has pulled me down so much that I don't even feel like coming to IF or reading / writing anything related to this show anymore. 😕 Abhay, I just read your post, which is both positive and gives an idea whether the epi is watchable. If you also stop making regular threads, then there would be no reason to come to IF.

PS: Saw Sayeri's post by chance. Sayeri, the witch may be inspired by the real life Bengali witch, Ipsita Roy Chakraverti. Just my hunch. 😊

Originally posted by: history_geek

Episode was on expected lines, as we knew a sorceress has entered.
CV's are "trying" to show some creativity(?).

😆 😆Who gives Cv these type of Idea, Maybee Dream came to writers, Some things, we should stole from Fear files, because, Writers, Brain on Holiday, so they introduce,

sorceress.😆, Gang.;;;;;;Kya see Kya hoo gaya iss serial mee

Jodha Akbar 4th May 2015.."Hilariously Haunting Episode".
Credit for this title goes to Harshu, who used this title in last episode post.

1.
That witch wants to CONTROL Jalal.

She "wants" Jalal now.

Withch kaa Dil Aya hee, Jalal par, what will be Ruk reaction. Who fears whom?

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2.
Jodha decides to convert on Navroz festival.

Forgetting, but i think you wrote, about Navroz, festival, some post.

3.
That witch takes some sample of blood of Jalal when she removes a thorn which got into Jalal's toe, and takes that blood to her mother. Her mother does some wizardry and witchcraft, and she declares that on coming Purnima Ki raat (?), Jalal will be under her daughter's spell, after which she can do what EVER she wants.

Witch,should be sent, Pathology, Department, Needles will be save, Pathological Deapartment😆.But is hinting, jodha have to do cure Jalal, before Purnima Kee Rat.

BTW, Were they speaking in some other language ?
Overall these were major things which happened.

Precap:
Jodha decides to convert and goes to a Maulvi, who asks Akbar to do the honors.
Both JJ are shocked to see each other there.

Lets see

BTW Guys, in future i will post episode threads when possible for me.
I mean these threads may not be a regular phenomena.

,Your Thread is the Reason, coming IF, your threads gives oxgen to this Forum.

so please not do this. short Update kee Oxgen challigee.😊without oxgen, ;;;;;;forum will be;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;


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i posted.

As a member of IF I need to write something,

I joined the Indian Forum because I really admire Mahabharat 2014 production of Swastik, even though I just a passive readers on this forum. Honestly, I am very fond of discussion related to the episodes of Mahabharat and the characters. I am very admire Draupadi, Pooja Sharma is amazing to portray Draupadi.

After Mahabharat ended, I started watching Jodha Akbar because I likes watching serial tv with history theme. Again in this forum, as passive readers I read the thread of discuss each episode JA from all sides even ridiculous sides also discussed. Sashashyamji is one of my favorites writers who write in depth perspective, and cause of JA plotline and storyline going illogical and inconsistent then Sashashyamji decided to stop writing (most of forum members here must know how tolerant Sashashyamji trying to understand the logical writting of CV's JA)

then I read the analysis of JA episodes by Abhay (history_geek), Abhay's writing has always been associated with the history of Akbar the great. And I find has many members who wrote a fairly deep. This thread or discussion about JA for me is an oasis in the middle of the limitations of my knowledge of Indian culture.

So, Abhay and other forum members, do not be tired to continue discussions about a unique version about Jodha Akbar ;)