ArHi FF: An Anatomy of Angst [Complete] Interlude #1 14/Aug - Page 27

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: viveka698

First, I like this Payal as she voices out her strong opinions without apprehensions. She doesn't merely follow, wishes for an active say in the establishment of future - long way from the woman who dejectedly wondered if there would be a future.

However, I do not agree with her. They are still under active threat and without well-established defense mechanisms. While survival is still precarious and subsistence the need of the hour, the human desire for free choice could take a backseat. Still too early for ideological discussions / debates - me thinks.

I'd worry about physical security first and self-expression later. When they reach a breathable point where survival can be taken for granted, where there is some semblance of a stable civil society set up - then they can worry about rights, free choices, and equality. And I see this possibility achievable (under current circumstances) with help of military techniques and skills. She seems to ignore that they are still at war - and while she thinks military dictatorship could be ruining, I see it as a protecting and reinforcing force. Eventually, stability and development could (ideally) organically lead to democracy.

Take post-war Iraq for example where swift plans to establish democracy in a badly torn society with hardly any internal security backfired royally.

P.S.: This thread is my daily morning routine now along with hot, soothing cup of green tea. It "wakes me up". I learn new things everyday from everyone in this thread - so, thank you all. :-)



Because we have to restart the world and we have sufficient knowledge, its more complicated. There is no manual to say what is the right thing to do. Here their respective experiences give them options. Can you tell a person living in absolute dictatorial regime that living with military is good? There is no one right thing here. World is far more complex than deciding to say "free choice isn't a priority right now". Isn't that exactly what we endorse in an evolved society?

Physical security and self-expression are totally two different things. How is it different from a prison? Again, post-Iraq is an example that cannot be used here because geopolitics is far complex and there are many other issues intrinsically to be considered. The story isn't set in such a world. People aren't there to even make such a decision.

:=) Its a part of my morning regimen too
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Raila1014

There is something to be said about establishing law and order by the military but it in my opinion this leads to dictators such as the pinochets, Chavez, etc . . .there needs to be a balance between law and order and what the people want. I am probably in utopia land right now. For some reason, I am with Payal because I really want to see something that has not been tried before. Let's see if the humans can start a pretence of a society with designated roles and responsibility. See in the animal kingdom, there seem to be this society that naturally can coexist and I am not sure where the Warriors are in their society, just this natural order where the male lion defend, the female hunts and mothers, etc . . .in the lion family and similar pattern with role reversals (hyenas are matriarch driven, etc . . .). I want to see this human experiment without resorting to the military . . . .



Sometimes it isn't fair to compare humans to animals. It isn't really the same. The dominance gets exerted in various forms according to what the species follow. The complexity of social culture plays a very strong hand in building a new society.

Consider this: in a town, assume the predominant population alive are all religious nut jobs. How would that small society operate?
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Raila1014

I like Payal. I don't think she is going through the motion but rather it feels like she was reborn after her suicide attempt. With all that innocence and the zombie blood, she looks like the one coping the best. Communist utopia kinda sounds scary because to me it feels like they will not have many options to voice their opinion. They will just be contributing to the best interest of the entity. But then, The entity is them so it may not be so bad if they are working so well in keeping themselves alive. I kinda feel sometimes like Arnav and Kushi are the narrators of this story which raise the question as to whether they have all perished and these 2 are the one remaining but not far from death. They are making sure that the future learn from their mistakes and also remember what they did.



I enjoy writing Payal because I have written too much Khushi in past few years :=) Payal, though is simply a name, is everything I haven't explored at the moment.

That's so awesome. Yeah maybe they are dead and narrating the story. Unfortunately, they are now interacting with Arjun. Unless, of course, you think everyone is actually dead 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: viveka698

Every person is a hero / heroine - there is no choice but to give it their all, to be hard and strong. No one is allowed the freedom to be passive. Each is responsible for their individual as well as collective fate. Everyone is rooting for everyone's success - a healthy co-dependence?

Just equality!

Did I wish for such a collective state? Yes! Do I think it works? Yes - for now, atleast!

And, what about the handful of remaining specialists - Doctors / Scientists / Inventors - who are more capable than others in creating vaccines or advanced weapons, etc. Are they being treated the same as everyone else? If so, doesn't it decrease their collective chance of survival to put these significant' individuals in the front line of battle?

Does equality really work?

And then, what will happen to individualism? <Shudders>

P.S.: This is so interesting as it totally messed up my mind. :-) Didn't you promise two chapters on Monday? Greedy souls, here!



That statement marked in red - historically, not awesome.

When people get used to certain way of life, it becomes harder to change in future. Either start a process thinking next fifty years in mind or just do what's important at the moment and let the next generation fix the repercussions. We cannot have it mid-way.

At this point, who knows who is remaining to do the job? There will come a point where we have to reinvent loads of things - maintaining water supply, electricity etc. Do not forget its not just people who we need to run the show but also to maintain resources.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: viveka698

I thought this will be the future of transportation - a flying bicycle' 😉

I'm good with horses too - as long as I can get a 'Shadowfax' look-alike.
"Noro lim, Shadowfax!" 😆 (Couldn't resist)



Future isn't all that cut out to be. If you read 1950s science fiction, we should have Robots integrated to our society, cure for most of the diseases and live in a fancy future. Sucks, isn't it?
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Janu75

I was wondering what is the effect of virus on other animals...

All the pets and farm house animals ,...and not to forget the wild ones which we are enclosed in zoos..

With the present crisis situation ,I doubt anyone guards them and might have been on roads... I have gone nuts😆



I think I already mentioned it - "it seems to be affecting only humans as of now".

If they are in jail, how did they get out? Weren't they locked?

Also, assuming much of the population is now zombie inside prison, what chances the living will have against them? Very less percentage would have escaped, if at all they had any way of doing so.
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27. Some like cats

"Her name is Lady Mary Grantham." Khushi says petting the cat she found in an abandoned house, challenge in her eyes.

Arnav snorts. "From that British TV show? Downton Abbey?" Khushi nods.

"Suits her." Arjun says, laughter in his voice. "She judges everyone around her, looks perpetually bored, gives out a flat-meow when she wants something and acts f**king entitled all the time."

Khushi touched the cat's nose with hers. The cat gave her an unimpressed bored look and let out an indifferent-meow.

Arjun and Arnav burst into laughter - a happy sound that was suddenly alien to the new world.

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Posted: 10 years ago
Aren't cats cute? I have always loved the way they could not care less about anyone but themselves. They are very selfish and will seek out what they need shamelessly. I guess Lady Mary is not your favorite character huh? But the cat managed to do something that have been missing in a while, the laughter that was unmasked by anything else. I guess there is a reason why pets are important to humans.
Will catch up to the other chapters during the day . . .
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Posted: 10 years ago
Read all chapters in one go... Wonderful choice of words.. Impact of 100 words is much more than a full page chapter.. Awesome
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Posted: 10 years ago
Not a cat fan. They are beautiful creatures but goodness all I can imagine when I see one is how it would look when it bares its teeth!

You mean I really should catch up with Downton Abbey. Sigh! I will. It was going to happen anyway!

Oh and laughter - well it can't be all bad always, can it? Some times the funny and the not-so-funny do get to you!

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