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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Horizon



Interesting take indi... agree with most.. me too wallowing shallowly in that mallow...

The whole set up of remarriage was shaky.. khushi keeps saying she belongs to him yet has to walk the whole nine yards.. it was bothersome quite a bit, the whole idea, premise... but it didn't shut me off.. had a few moments that had the quality to be cut paste right there some where in that Dec/ Jan.. like the smirky GH bedroom one or even farm house...
also it came after rather hideous DKS ... its always drawing a shorter line .. relative in context...

Khushi seemed to have been lost some where long ago, I was only happy if there was no high pitch comical postures, semblance of sense .. that she got here.. although the hairdo was off, i found her astoundingly beautiful here...both of them.. that color worked wonders for both of them...

Assured. men like asr do not exist in reality..just do not.. whose brain and heart seem to be working in pitch perfect... putting across right arguments to shut every one up..and then blatantly dragging his gal...to have a personal talk... kaun rokega use... neither could I be stopped from shallowly rolling for the brazen and beautifulicious business man here...
gorgeous edits..



hi indu,

thanks for reading. absolutely agree there were moments that belonged to the ipk i loved in this phase too... farmhouse elated me... and so did his wanting to be all of himself through all this that is so not him. as an idea of love and loving... that one should allow the beloved their space and needs while keeping one's own... is beautiful. yet that remarriage, almost looking away from the sindoor and mangalsutra and pretending they don't exit... i just didn't like it. if it had to be a huge wedding for trp... they had to write it with more respect for tradition which they are saying they uphold... and with a real feeling for the characters they wrote about.

i came to the forum when story went haywire... and stayed on watching because i had fallen for these two and their romance... i have explained away many things to myself, just to be here... but really as i watch remarriage again, i feel myself moving away in me.

both story and character suffered pretty badly here. then came the horrific killing of a child.

but i totally get your point... better than badly written dks, at least there's lots of the two of them.

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Posted: 10 years ago
Indi, absolutely agree, with sindoor and MS on, still going on and on with the rituals as if they dont exist.. ultimately only to have them back...a paradoxical catch 22 it looked like...

remarriage is something i debated very strongly against..
there was a lot disconnect with the characters, plot.. khushi didn't remember he had put ring/ bandage on her all imp. finger that he did...she didn't know about phere.. she seemd to have not aware of lot things she was shown speaking at length initially about..what went wrong?

although at times khushi was clueless and he jarringly sedate as in that temple..
as shallow as it might sound, this track was very pleasing to eyes. sandwiched between the much taxing DKS and sheetal... the only reason i didn't mind watching..






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Posted: 10 years ago
^^^

dks... 😆 😆 😆... yikes,... can you even imagine that going full scale big and blasting?

but have to say, that shot of khushi's which shyam fantasized about... she looking back at him after he's bashed up the lafangas... one of the most beautiful shots of khushi. so young, vulnerable, untouched and beautiful.

shyam is lucky he got that flashback.

seriously, that shot belongs to asr. no one else.


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Posted: 10 years ago
Indi,


seriously that flashback belonged only and only to asr...i felt my love story being polluted million times when Shyam stole/ shared it... they were anyway showing khushi for what ever reason getting close to Shyam... now even fbs? only a pool side monologue was remaining..
oh wait.. was it stolen/ corrupted as well.. shyam babua on that recliner by the pool side...😆
you see the line between hero and villain is hair thin..
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Posted: 10 years ago
^^^

😆 😆

arghhh that poolside recliner scene with shyam trying to be suave tycoon... i wanted to push him into the pool and hold him down till all was over.

not a very mild and sweet almost 55 year old am i?

that beauty of a turn by khushi... only asr's.

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Posted: 10 years ago
324-325

324 was bad. And 325 dismally bad. That's my verdict.

The makers and Khushi seem to suffer with dual personality. When the man is in full on aane do mood Khushi is busy with shifty shadows near the poolside, and when he is efficiently being the business tycoon she wants him to whisper sweet nothings into the phone.

I still did like their phone chat. Felt normal. The girl a little shy, but wanting to be flirted with, the man finally understanding what she wants and getting into the mood of the naakh lal teasing. The last smile as he leans against the recliner made me remember how young he is. How not normal his life has been. A few minutes of regular courtship is not too bad considering all the other awful scenes that transpired in the episode. He deserved a few minutes of drama free light loving phone call.



And why isn't Khushi allowed to tie her hair into a plait even when she sleeps at night? This Shakuntala style hair swept over one shoulder and suspiciously red cheeks and an artificial smile and upbeat voice get jarring to the eye after a while. I just want her to look pristine and talk with the untouched sweetness that she had, not with this almost forced put on air.

ASR's worry over Anjali, right in the middle of roka was not needed. The man cares for his di from his heart, he does not put on a show of it. And why ask Khushi to sit with di when everyone is around and she is fine? If my husband acted in this weird way which is almost offending to other family members I would in a very laad governor way say what the and not go sit next to di with a worried expression!

ASR reads bills before signing. If murder mysteries have taught me anything it is that everyone specially rich people should always read what they are signing their name on. So, atleast that was another good thing.

I have come to the conclusion that the most unbearably irritating facet of dadi is her insistence on calling Garima Khushi's mausi.

They managed to make even Hari Prakash vaguely annoying this episode as he overacted and said he could not leave Anjali alone.

Taking about split personality, everyone seems to be suffering from partial amnesia as well. As far as I remember ASR frequently went for puja shopping for his di. On teej he was most definitely inside a temple or were we all hallucinating as his eyes followed Khushi and hers did too all through the puja. With his brains he can definitely pronounce kul'devi' which for some reason he could not this episode.

What would ASR be thinking when he folded his hand and stood in front of Khushi's devi maiyya? And without thought and actual reverence would our Arnav Singh Raizada even for Khushi's sake without meaning it pray? It was not right, he would never take such an action lightly.

And as for Khushi, she managed to tarnish a sweet memory. Him freeing pigeons for the little girl. Apparently it told Khushi he would step into a mandir someday. No, Khushi might have thought he is not all rakshas, has a heart and can be kind. She would not have thought in future some day he would suddenly turn into a pious man just because he tried to help a little scared girl.

Yes there is no harm in wishing he was less self destructing. There is also no harm in wishing he did not hurt inside as much as he does, but please don't make him someone he is not. He cannot be sweet and religious and blend in with everyone. He stands apart form the crowd, he rages, he is impulsive at times, but has the highest of ideals, loves passionately and believes in himself. Khushi please love him for who he is.

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Posted: 10 years ago
episode 325


i watched this episode quite perplexed, what was being established here i couldn't quite get, though everything seemed to be crystal clear.

amma was avoiding dadi.

asr had at last entered a temple and the family was pleased.

khushi knew on a fabulous day at ipk, when outside a temple a young man with extreme pain and innocence in his heart bought all the pigeons there were to buy for a little girl lost and hurting, that one day he would step inside the temple.

shyam had reentered rm and was being worshipped in the living room.

things seemed pretty simple, yet i was confused.


amma was scared of dadi had been established across several episodes already, so why waste precious time underscoring that yet again? all it highlights to me is that for some unknown reason nobody other than dadi thinks this is positively weird. the mother of the bride is absent from every function. yet no one is even mildly bothered about it, including her two daughters and her very canny sister in law. is that a gap in story telling or am i imagining things? shouldn't khushi be aware by now something is not quite right? and payal too?

about asr and the temple. in the second episode we see this man spending a fair bit of time, although with grim visage, at a mazar doing what he has been asked to do by his dear sister. it is clear, he does go to religious places for those he loves. although he does not really believe in these gestures and observes without expressed faith... he does it because he loves. later during teej, he accompanies his sister and family for all temple visits and steps in also. he even performs rituals. there is the memorable scene of him and khushi exchanging the puja platter in the mandir. so, honestly the significance of this scene in 325 completely went over my head.


he heard this was a ritual, he with his current focus on getting all rituals done properly, walked into the mandir to stand by his wife and make sure the custom was observed properly. he has done this for his di many many times in his life. while i completely understand people falling apart at the sight of this unbelievably good looking man climbing the mandir steps, i can't take my eyes off him too, i did not understand all the dramatic individual shots of awe shock surprise joy.

i did not also understand why khushi has to be made into the changemaker extraordinaire in his life. also the all knowing one, who knew back then... and i notice a strain of quid pro quo in storytelling suddenly. one day she says let him be, don't force him to observe; the next day he is all set with his knowledge of rituals to make her happy; then he makes her realise their roka was done way back: now she is the cause of his being redeemed through mandir entry, and she tells him how way back then she already knew; now she has decided since he did it all for her, she must do something for him...

a bit tiresome really and tiring. this love story has a beauty all its own, it speaks through emotions that are movingly enacted and nurtured, not through politically correct action. in fact, its score in the political correctness department is pretty low. yet it triumphed because the core had honesty... an extreme integrity. that man woman thing was instinctively understood and delineated without fudging. now that tenet is compromised and we are in a world of being television perfect and blandly edifying, love as it should be, not as it is, right? oh what a ritual we must observe...

i absolutely abhorred asr being shown to fold his hands before dm only to please khushi. he has stood by at prayers with his hands by his sides, a stern look on face, disengaged. at the mazar he has raised his hands in the accepted way, one gets the sense because his sister has kept a mannat and he will simply do what needs to be done in thanksgiving, almost mechanically observing... otherwise he is not exactly the tie thread for wish kind...

but here, that namaste almost as if he means it and then smiling at khushi, felt terrible. not right. we get the point that he is doing it all for her, no need to have him constantly smiling tenderly sweetly gently utterly unasrly all the time. and no, he will not fold his hands like that unless he means it. certainly not to see if khushi was happy with his loving sweetness. all very not asr. have him walk in by all means and stand by her quietly, steal a glance at her as she prays, smile slightly, bas. and cut out those excessively surprised fam shots also khushi's know all, see i knew it you'd come to the temple bits. man has often done this, nothing new.

we do not have amnesia. especially me. i am too shallow. how not to recall this gorgeousness at mazar and temple before.


about shyam and anjali. why would she bring him into the house like this? why should he want to be here. okay i understand his ploy... see me here where you always have, want me here... do what you must do to get me back. but anjali? why is she taking this risk? she has been meeting him all through we are shown... but today suddenly, she just can't help herself and tells hp to vamoose while she gets her man across? then starts making tea for him? i get it... a simple pleasure... you have missed this... but the family has gone to the mandir, not for a prolonged holiday...

i have always liked anjali... i can even accept that when her husband is thrown out without any explanation, she might lose it and her weaknesses start taking over. she may whinge and whine and even get nasty about khushi, she may pressure chhotey to bring shyam back, i would have thought that's what she would do... even threaten to leave home... which would have possibly had him accept shyam back but with certain restrictions or whatever... but this whole making anjali into a highly sneaky woman who keeps saying in childish vein, "kaash... kaash," if only... if only... and wishes things were back to how they used to be... totally unfathomable and feels like very lazy writing.


i felt for akash and payal... what the, they seemed to be saying, are they really giving us lines? oh they have remembered us... maybe? i have a feeling, it's around this time that both akshay dogra and deepali pansare were indicating their unhappiness with their roles. i think daljeet had just taken back her resignation...

anyway...

that walk up the steps with a matter of fact, let's get it done air, stylishly taking off his shades... frowning, maybe because he'd waited too long in the sun and is getting impatient to see khushi, the reason he is here.
shallower than the mandir steps is my shallowness and i own it proudly, and leave you with what stopped my eyes nose throat ear and heart.



i want to write an essay on the frown. just look at that perfect specimen of one. and if he can smile ever ever ever so slightly, he can do the same with the frown i noticed. when khushi reminds him about the day of the pigeons at the temple, a very very slight one comes on... i remember thinking he just makes it so real... even a scene that is quite empty and flawed.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52

episode 325


i watched this episode quite perplexed, what was being established here i couldn't quite get, though everything seemed to be crystal clear.

amma was avoiding dadi.

asr had at last entered a temple and the family was pleased. but he had entered before right or was I dreaming?

khushi knew on a fabulous day at ipk, when outside a temple a young man with extreme pain and innocence in his heart bought all the pigeons there were to buy for a little girl lost and hurting, that one day he would step inside the temple. this dialogue made me so very sad di. Almost ripped my heart. How could they demean this memory? Since when has Khushi become this condescending know it all?

shyam had reentered rm and was being worshipped in the living room.

things seemed pretty simple, yet i was confused.


amma was scared of dadi had been established across several episodes already, so why waste precious time underscoring that yet again? all it highlights to me is that for some unknown reason nobody other than dadi thinks this is positively weird. the mother of the bride is absent from every function. yet no one is even mildly bothered about it, including her two daughters and her very canny sister in law. is that a gap in story telling or am i imagining things? shouldn't khushi be aware by now something is not quite right? and payal too? I think it was in the last episide for one tiny second I almost agreed with dadi about feeling offended that she isnt getting to meet the bride's mother. if only dadi would stop calling her the mausi.

about asr and the temple. in the second episode we see this man spending a fair bit of time, although with grim visage, at a mazar doing what he has been asked to do by his dear sister. it is clear, he does go to religious places for those he loves. those minutes are pure poetry although he does not really believe in these gestures and observes without expressed faith... he does it because he loves. later during teej, he accompanies his sister and family for all temple visits and steps in also. he even performs rituals. there is the memorable scene of him and khushi exchanging the puja platter in the mandir. so, honestly the significance of this scene in 325 completely went over my head.


he heard this was a ritual, he with his current focus on getting all rituals done properly, walked into the mandir to stand by his wife and make sure the custom was observed properly. he has done this for his di many many times in his life. while i completely understand people falling apart at the sight of this unbelievably good looking man climbing the mandir steps, i can't take my eyes off him too, i did not understand all the dramatic individual shots of awe shock surprise joy.

i did not also understand why khushi has to be made into the changemaker extraordinaire in his life. also the all knowing one, who knew back then... and i notice a strain of quid pro quo in storytelling suddenly. one day she says let him be, don't force him to observe; the next day he is all set with his knowledge of rituals to make her happy; then he makes her realise their roka was done way back: now she is the cause of his being redeemed through mandir entry, and she tells him how way back then she already knew; now she has decided since he did it all for her, she must do something for him...

a bit tiresome really and tiring. this love story has a beauty all its own, it speaks through emotions that are movingly enacted and nurtured, not through politically correct action. in fact, its score in the political correctness department is pretty low. yet it triumphed because the core had honesty... an extreme integrity. that man woman thing was instinctively understood and delineated without fudging. now that tenet is compromised and we are in a world of being television perfect and blandly edifying, love as it should be, not as it is, right? oh what a ritual we must observe...

i absolutely abhorred asr being shown to fold his hands before dm only to please khushi. he has stood by at prayers with his hands by his sides, a stern look on face, disengaged. at the mazar he has raised his hands in the accepted way, one gets the sense because his sister has kept a mannat and he will simply do what needs to be done in thanksgiving, almost mechanically observing... otherwise he is not exactly the tie thread for wish kind...

but here, that namaste almost as if he means it and then smiling at khushi, felt terrible. not right. we get the point that he is doing it all for her, no need to have him constantly smiling tenderly sweetly gently utterly unasrly all the time. and no, he will not fold his hands like that unless he means it. certainly not to see if khushi was happy with his loving sweetness. all very not asr. have him walk in by all means and stand by her quietly, steal a glance at her as she prays, smile slightly, bas. and cut out those excessively surprised fam shots also khushi's know all, see i knew it you'd come to the temple bits. man has often done this, nothing new.

we do not have amnesia. especially me. i am too shallow. how not to recall this gorgeousness at mazar and temple before.


about shyam and anjali. why would she bring him into the house like this? why should he want to be here. okay i understand his ploy... see me here where you always have, want me here... do what you must do to get me back. but anjali? why is she taking this risk? she has been meeting him all through we are shown... but today suddenly, she just can't help herself and tells hp to vamoose while she gets her man across? then starts making tea for him? i get it... a simple pleasure... you have missed this... but the family has gone to the mandir, not for a prolonged holiday...

i have always liked anjali... i can even accept that when her husband is thrown out without any explanation, she might lose it and her weaknesses start taking over. she may whinge and whine and even get nasty about khushi, she may pressure chhotey to bring shyam back, i would have thought that's what she would do... even threaten to leave home... which would have possibly had him accept shyam back but with certain restrictions or whatever... but this whole making anjali into a highly sneaky woman who keeps saying in childish vein, "kaash... kaash," if only... if only... and wishes things were back to how they used to be... totally unfathomable and feels like very lazy writing.


i felt for akash and payal... what the, they seemed to be saying, are they really giving us lines? oh they have remembered us... maybe? i have a feeling, it's around this time that both akshay dogra and deepali pansare were indicating their unhappiness with their roles. i think daljeet had just taken back her resignation... I thought Payal looked nice today, and the other day I was actually thinking Akash looks smart and nice. a good brother for ASR to have.

anyway...

that walk up the steps with a matter of fact, let's get it done air, stylishly taking off his shades... frowning, maybe because he'd waited too long in the sun and is getting impatient to see khushi, the reason he is here.
shallower than the mandir steps is my shallowness and i own it proudly, and leave you with what stopped my eyes nose throat ear and heart.



i want to write an essay on the frown. just look at that perfect specimen of one. and if he can smile ever ever ever so slightly, he can do the same with the frown i noticed. when khushi reminds him about the day of the pigeons at the temple, a very very slight one comes on... i remember thinking he just makes it so real... even a scene that is quite empty and flawed.


Hello Indi di I just wrote my take and now read yours. I was too hurt with what Khushi said about the pigeons and ASR to make edits. Thank you for the slightly frowning man. Yes absolutely real. Its in the minute details, its in the magnificence, in the sincere acting which is why I guess it hurts as much as it does when he is played with.

The reminder of the dargah day beautiful.. every time I see it I feel like writing a novel or something.. just makes breathing very hard and longing unbearable.

hahaha and I see you took caps of pointless people again.. hai re nand kisore ka karein is hardworking take writer ka..
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52

episode 324

just found out how helpless i am before ipk. or should i say a particular actor... character... good looking guy... heckishly handsome man, in ipk.

had sworn i wasn't going to get all shaky finger desperate to make a cap of this dismal episode, but... then he goes and cranes his neck to speak on the phone, while scanning through smartly and signing papers.

no point in trying to resist i decide.



extremely can't think gawk moments aside, and there are a few more coming up, i really didn't find anything to like in this episode other than perhaps a couple of moments in the rather forced tete a tete between the lovers at night.

khushi's smile has changed.

asr is now written with a high cuteness aspect to it. asr is not cute. he is intense. passionate. funny. witty. aggressive. no nonsense...and so on. he is cute with all of that... so he is complex. like the sugar he avoids.

so once in a way, when i see that, it stops me.

like when he said he was signing accounts to khushi's overly sweet, what are you doing.

the first five minutes had me gaping... in a 22 minute episode, you have five whole minutes to show the ridiculous di and dawai thing. why should a man in the middle of his roka suddenly look at his di and start fretting for no reason. yes, asr loves di a lot and worries about her... and she is pregnant, also not in a great mood, but this sudden overly anxious brother act. doesn't make any sense. then the constant medicines for a pregnant woman, and to show his love, the way it's written its veering on obsession now, for his wife, he instructs her to sit with his sis while he gets the medicine. this while his entire family is milling around, the primary caretaker, nani, very much there. and what happened to the guests? the roka stopped or what...

and if shyam swapped her medicines and induced miscarriage, then why the gruesome broken glass drama soon to come? it is obvious from his you'll have to call a doc later, that he has given her stuff that will lead to a miscarriage anyway. so story was changing fast and furious and writers were trying to give it shape and coherence.

did not work.

the nurse part was sugary... other than that dialogue from bua ji... even god, nand kissore, doesn't come if not called, so from where did this nurse come.

would asr just fix a nurse in a matter of fact way without consulting anyone? yes, he would. would he then call khushi or bua ji and let them know... yes. he wouldn't wait for phone call from ma in law and then again sound... i am fainting not with joy... cute. then tell garima, do this for your daughter. aren't we taking the whole khushi obsession a little too far now? these dialogues were all wrong. I can't imagine ASR saying such a thing.

it's one of those episodes where i wondered what am i doing watching this nonsense. that akash and khushi canoodle by the wires and ladder... what was that. and why?

just as the medicines made no sense, neither did the camera installed by constantly smiling and rocking villain. and what was the need to show him on a rocking chair all the while suddenly? made him seem more lethal, did it? also weird shots of his hairy arms... in silhouette. hahah what? yuk.. good I did not notice.what's going on? where are the directors and the cinematographer?

and yeah i noticed the so called cleverness of asr wanting to go to mandir while the mandir addicted di refusing a pop... might have been interesting if the episode were that. also why again the reference to khushi making him go there, from nani... he used to go with di earlier too... protesting or otherwise.

we are going to that oh khushi is such a wonder woman, she has changed a horrid man way. sorry, i like bad boys not because i can make them into my poodles... it's because they are just more fun, and sharp... yeah a bit of tempering on both sides, but here it is so so so one sided. like asr had no impact on khushi. sorry... he made her feel like a woman... believe she is important... has a major right on him...and treated her as an independent strong woman not a silly idiot. would have been nice if someone somewhere indicated that.

i realise the audience consists of mainly women... but this feels like ridiculous pandering which only very weak people need... i don't need this, thanks.

and to me asr was, right from that moment he landed and looked with dark deeply lit eyes at an old mansion, much more than a bad boy. he remains aspirational.

ah the shades of this man... and i don't just mean those deadly ones below, nor the ones that spring to mind these days the moment shades is mentioned. this man is just phenomenally more.

anyway, i'll suttupiya now and go back to gawking.










Heres to more shades of the man..

Completely agree with everything you said di and enjoyed your take way more than the boring insipid episode. All that di drama was very tiring to watch and so not ASR. He hates creating a fuss, then why the drama? The previous episode for one second his eye had registered on di and I had felt his pang of sadness, maybe noticing that she was all alone and still smiling happily.

And the whole lead upto the mandir ceremony nonsense again. Why does everyone have to act shocked. Like you pointed out he has done it before.

Also you are so right about ASR not making any difference in Khushi's life. She seems to see his love for her only if he does things his way. That thought itself makes me sad. The girl was convinced he would compare her to a delhi autorickshaw and she still could not resist him and now he wants to kiss her and openly declares he will marry her to make her happy and all it does is make her smile with artificially sweetness. And apparently the thing that does touch her is when he decides to step into a mandir for her. boo hoo...
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just so that we know and are abs sure about this, wiki says:

mauve... from the french form of malva mallow, is a pale purple colour, which is named after the mallow flower. the first use of the word mauve as a colour was in 1796-8 according to the oxford english dictionary, but its use seems to have been rare before 1859. another name for the colour is mallow with the first recorded use of mallow as a color name in english in 1611.

and since rhyming with that mallow i am shallow, this episode really was for me only and all about a man and his mauve. there is also his "kaun rokega mujhe."

i'll be back with more and mauve soon.

...

this episode on, something begins which i honestly can't bring myself to agree with, therefore the enjoyment of stunning asr khushi scenes does get impacted. my problem is: remarriage.

without raising my hand in obnoxious fashion but choosing a word with a sense of extreme castigation in it, i say quietly to myself, lips pursed... avaidh.

i have no idea what this word exactly means but it certainly seems to say: wrong, incorrect, not acceptable, shameful.

marriage is, if we are to accept this idea at all, a fairly serious, some will say sacred, thing. it cannot be played with beyond a point, certainly not on daily tv which everyone watches and all the time. and absolutely not for trp. this remarriage was brought on only for money and nothing else.

for the sake of drama and story telling, and because it was delivered with a pristine powerful passion, i could accept, almost revel in actually, the fabulous yet terrifying wedding at the temple. subsequently he mentioned she was his legally wedded wife... which she did not refute. i presume therefore this marriage has legal sanction... they might have shown us a scene with the two of them signing the certificate and a couple of witnesses... they might have even shown us how he devised the six month clause into it... but this was a marriage... and even she accepted the signs of it such as mangalsutra and sindoor, which she did not take lightly at all, wearing them when they were hating each other, when they were loving each other... so.. to me, asr agreeing to this new shadi was just a result of bad writing, ugly greed and complete disregard for the story and for love.

when he returned from kidnap, i did think he'd "marry" her again, but in their way, perhaps by the poolside, under the stars, give her kangans, letter from maa, maybe even in front of the families... but this?

sorry. this makes their marriage before god, which she believes in, with its mangalsutra and sindoor, which again he brings in because she believes in them, seem to be just a sham. that is just not right.

marriage is no joke... they were married.

and so, i feel a disconnect. the only positive outcome of this whole fiasco to me is episode 248, a new level of commitment...

and since when is sex between lovers such a bad thing? and i totally get his indignation on the night of the suhag raat which he'd set up with so much happiness and anticipation. isn't a lover wanting to make the first time they have sex with each other special a nice thing... wouldn't we like that?

and why is indian tv presenting such a ridiculous, damaging notion of sex in the first place. we neither marry to have sex nor not have it... it is an essential part of human survival. and is highly enjoyable.. when we attempt to create permanence between two people who are not genetically connected, the sheer intimacy it brings in has many uses, including actually helping people tether, i see it often as a means of communicating. but at the same time human beings can have sex without marriage and for reasons they believe are valid... it is a matter of choice. to tie sex exclusively to marriage is a bit silly and doesn't understand the basic premise of either thing.

more and more serials present this whole thing about two people getting married then a whole chaos about soemthing or the oyther and then they just don't do "it". huh? seems to say to me, a whole mindset of sex being:"bad" and worse still "not essential" is being created. warped.

desist, dammit.

this is avaidh.

thankfully, someone else couldn't care less about all the rasam and custom and eye rolling hysterical joy over meaningless things.

he concentrates on dressing.

ah.

i am watching transfixed. (not that you don't know that already.)


shrug on brown waistcoat and turn elegantly while talking to lover girl on phonewa... blue is your tooth, and mauve is your shirt, slightly distracted is your air... that mid shot magnification... magnificento.

she is in a nice red tent, with a casual knot... but in the casual department, ah that tone of voice and that man going about daily routine air, me casualty.

"tum ready ho...?"
you ready?

"haan, arnav ji, bas hum taiyaar ho rahe hain... kya hua?"
yes, i am getting ready, what's the matter?

"kuch nahin... i'll see you soon."
nothing, i'll see you soon. (sexxxy)

"kya? aap hume dekh lenge?"
what, you'll see me?

pause. eyebrows dance...

hot hot "uh... matlab...?", uh meaning? on a sort of laugh. i have died. really all these rituals, who thought of these... i am going to buy an suv... he needs one. he must abduct her now and stop this nonsense.

she lets him know in her pleased, over sweet, know everything tone...once it used to be fun, but now i just want to runaway... anyway he is told he can't see the bride.

and the devastating comeback...

"okay... kaun rokega mujhe?"
okay, who's going to stop me?

gosh he's doing his cuffs... okay i have to say, man has that thing we used to call by a very old fashioned name: sa... sex appeal, hello hi bye bye.


girl is shocked... i liked her look here and found the shagun do up ugh.

in that kaun rokega mujhe sat an entire character and its powerful charm.

he will not be stopped when he means to get something. he will go out there. do what needs to be done. reap the benefits or face the consequences, but he will live life on his terms and without compromise. certainly no one will be allowed to stop him. i have always liked this boldness, this shrugging on life and wearing it perfectly, all buttons done, cuffs rolled... not depending on others... not even god... and should their be severe wardrobe malfunction, ready to show himmat and tackle that too.


i believe the free will in us exists for a reason. and to assert it, to express it is not to challenge the furies and god... in fact, this is part of our make up, surely we are asked to use it... and not keep looking for safety in numbers and social and religious sanctions.

and the man is playful on top of that, flirting away... despite all the drama... focussed on the main thing. khushi. his lover, his girl, he wants her... anything for her, even this ridiculous marriage. i am glad he pretty much says that to her in his mother's garden, though again there's a bit of a disconnect for he's been saying all along she's my wife.

i just read it as him being fed up with the whole sugary shadi business and declaring, look, i did it for you, but get this! i don't believe in all this shebang. this perhaps is that special thing he wants to do with her after coming back... bring her to meet his mother and totally join with her in a relationship of commitment... not of trp and loud fairly empty customs.

so dadi tries to stop him. not a very bright woman, is she? he of course appears when he knows she won't be able to do a thing. (however that too cutesie right dadi banter, not my thing, so shan't say anything.)

holds khushi's hand and walks away with her in front of everyone... deadly. i remembered him itching to see her on a visit earlier, barging into the kitchen, flinging challenges at her... he can put up with anything, but not being with her, not seeing her... he just can't do it.

needs her. loves her. will do anything for her, even if he does not believe in it but she needs it. i liked his holding of her hand... this time not to apologise... this time to claim... all the many parts of a "vaidh" relationship. and he did say again, kaun rokega mujhe?



little thoughts


~why is garima falling apart like this? and how totally silly is this plan of not appearing before dadi... can this be sustained? and how come neither bua ji nor khushi think this is way too strange to be just given forehead furrowed looks and then go on as usual.


~ why does khushi stop him from saying kkgsr? why was sanaya given such a strange hairstyle? why is she looking dopey and blink blink cute all the time? where's khushi?

~ bua ji said in the beginning, she knows they are ladkewale... but this is not fair. i am glad she did. episode one, her brother had thoughtfully asked, should he get his girl married to a boy whose family was behaving so badly... his wife had said how can you say that, we are ladkiwale. garima is timid by nature, accepting social norms even if they are not right. that's who she is i guess, though she is also sensitive and wise about many things and gets damad ji somewhere. (would have been niice to see the two of them working out this issue of her being "woh aurat". instead of aarva, sheetal, mrs india. and yes, birthday.)

ladkewale... ladkiwale. boy's side... girl's side.

ah the dynamics of a society based on giving precedence to men... the y chromosome game, the coralling of women... thank g at least two people belonging to the not too privileged, highly adherent to social traditions middle class, actually raised the topic, wondered rationally about something.

i wonder what asr will say if there's any ladkiwalle ladkewale talk.

~ karan g is a good actor. of course nk says things that no one else can... so none of the so called riti riwaj about not seeing the bride were followed during akash's wedding. ah the shh shh from poojali... teehee. the raizadas are definitely progressive... respect tradition but don't get bogged down by it and stop exercising your powers of thinking.

~ nani ji was lovely as always... her dear pal sumi really needs to learn some manners and lighten up.

~ scary dadi was also meant to raise trp... that avaidh bet also didn't work.

~ was good to see payal whack nk and smile widely almost when jeth ji walked off shamelessly dragging his ladki after him. deepali pansare was looking upbeat, maybe they'd told her her role was about to become soimething. how much acan a girl run after sasuma and upset pati wearing sythetic shiny saree, hair open.

cut to lopsided smile after raised eyebrows... so you are not mine now...🤢

hum toh aapo hi ke hain.

hum bhi... hum bhi.

of course, i am yours...

me too... me too.



shall we be shallow? and wallow in the mallow.

It was such a lovely read. enjoyed the episode from your POV.
Marked the lines blue what stood out for me.
Thanks for letting us know so much about mauve.
I was not against the remarriage as it was always Khushi's dream to have a grand wedding. My objection was the reason behind the remarriage. If they were legally married then why they had to marry again! I agree with you about showing the contract signing. Maybe thisre marriage idea was there in their mind that's why the kept this loop hole.
I also agree with you as you said about the sex thing. In our Indian society sex before marriage is not acceptable. even in my religion it's a sin. But my question is why in hindi soaps people don't have sex even after their marriage, I'm really surprised to see the controlling power of the young folks of our hindi soaps.
In this whole episode my favorite scene was ASR's entry with a sexy hi. It was deadly. And how he hijacked his girl in front of all was the best.
Garima's hide and seek game seemed nonsensical.
she sure was a weak women. but to run away from such a big truth was silly.
Khushi's hairstyle. But she was looking pretty.

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