EVEREST & the fear of death involved

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Posted: 11 years ago
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When Jagat was speaking to Sarita & Vikram today, I noticed few emotions

1. His concern for Anjali - fear that something might happen to her
2. His ego - that he, a man, couldn't do it so a girl definitely can't do it.


VS everyone else who congratulated him who were optimistic about her ability to even make it.


Despite the fact that his ego was overpowering his concern, I feel that he made a legitimate argument. EVEREST is a difficult dream to achieve. Any parent would think twice before sending his child. I know that as parents, one should support their child's dream & push them forward to achieve it. But EVEREST is different. Well-trained mountaineers have not been able to make it & there is clear risk of death.

Putting aside the ego, would you as a parent knowingly push your child towards a dream that is full of risks, especially when it is something as dangerous as EVEREST?

Is conquering EVEREST equivalent to any other dream that has its EVEREST as well?

Would love to hear your views.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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true! there was a hint of concern in Jagat's voice! (chalo Jagat insaan nikla.. I thot his his male ego is too much.. but ok its still too much.. ) bt this scene made me feel relieved, just a bit!
Now about the topic.. yes I think everyone's goal is equivalent to conquering everest. I mean I loved how the makers promoted the show..
they asked straight way what's your everest?

Well parents r always supportive, but they tend to be protective when it comes to these kinda stuff... involving risks.. but if your dream is one involving 'jaanlewa' risks still, I feel u need to pursue it coz its your dream.. you may not actually realize your dream but, at least there will be no regrets in future that you havent even tried...
Parents might be apprehensive but ultimately they have to/ will end up supporting their kids outta pure love! :D

well my parents do that its.. ;)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I get what you are saying.
Yes, jagat was right as a parent, though I would NOT call it a concern, But still he was right in his arguement, - Everest is a Difficult dream to achieve.

But here the point is not Jagat's concern, but about Showing some amount of Confidence and Trust in his child , and treat her with Respect , which she rightly deserves. Jagat got an opportunity to become agood father and come closer to his child , but he missed it yet again. Thats the point.

Anjali's mother , too is a parent. She has concerns for her too.. But in this case, Anjali's CAUSE is much bigger than parental concern. She has undertaken something to make his parents proud, isn't that a reason enough for a dAD TO support her!1?? He dismissed her , and tried to cover up his own frustration , in the name of Parental concern, Such a COWARD he is.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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at first I also felt that may be he has concern for Anjali but later he clearly stated that his reputation will be ruined if something happens to her... May be he has little fear for her but it is over powered by his love for himself and his ego...
Sarita also loves anjali and has fear and concern for her but she respects her decision and understands her... And she is supporting her...
If my kid wanted to join a risky profession... Then offcourse I will have some little fears but will never stop her from living her dream
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bright_star89

I get what you are saying.

Yes, jagat was right as a parent, though I would NOT call it a concern, But still he was right in his arguement, - Everest is a Difficult dream to achieve.

But here the point is not Jagat's concern, but about Showing some amount of Confidence and Trust in his child , and treat her with Respect , which she rightly deserves. Jagat got an opportunity to become agood father and come closer to his child , but he missed it yet again. Thats the point.

Anjali's mother , too is a parent. She has concerns for her too.. But in this case, Anjali's CAUSE is much bigger than parental concern. She has undertaken something to make his parents proud, isn't that a reason enough for a dAD TO support her!1?? He dismissed her , and tried to cover up his own frustration , in the name of Parental concern, Such a COWARD he is.


I agree with you. But let's forget about his ego (which I absolutely hated) & just focus on his argument. I do agree that he should be proud of her for wanting to fulfill his dream. But no matter how much confidence & trust you have in your child, would you still allow him/her to pursue something so threatening? I don't know.. maybe its just me but as much as I am proud of Anjali & glad that her mother is supporting her, I feel uneasy that she just let her go like that.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice post..!!
Absolutely whatever you said I agree. Parents never want their child to go for dangerous ambition when he/she completely knows about concerned field.. They always wants to support their children's work, even if it looks difficult.. Amount of caring and protection can be given only by our parents and no other can fill that place.. Here Anjali completely missed major emotions which a normal father can provide to her daughter.. She never experienced those beautiful and lovely bonding from his father.. Whenever Anjali had a chance to interact with him, he never tried or expose his fatherly emotions for her instead a simple conversation and concern.. I had seen Anjali trying to get that parental affection from Jagat.. Today whatever he is almost responsible for Anjali's motive in aiming everest.. Now his mixed emotions of both concern as a father and his clashes of ego overshadowed him.. Where he couldn't clarify his controlled emotions. Only after hearing expedition he revealed his certain amount of emotional concern as a parent but not as a father..?? None of the parents will allow their children to move on when the path is really hard and dangerous.. For any reason whatever happened today,a drastic step by Anjali's mission in attaining everest looks whole heartedly and indirectlly Jagat a catalyst.. Though I loved his fear of losing in his speech indeed I absolutely hate in underestimating her capability.. Sometimes that looks blind!!! Sarita had no way to heal her hurt, she had no other chance in supporting throughout her journey unless she will become more distressed when she already goes emotionally heartbroken by Jagat's words.. Parents must give a chance and foremost thing they should believe their own blood..!! Parental duites not alone enough for a child but a complete support, emotional bonding and sharing of words much needed for any children..!! Hope soon Jagat will try or get to read her daughter and supporting her through out her journey..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: chocobrownies

Nice post..!!

Absolutely whatever you said I agree. Parents never want their child to go for dangerous ambition when he/she completely knows about concerned field.. They always wants to support their children's work, even if it looks difficult.. Amount of caring and protection can be given only by our parents and no other can fill that place.. Here Anjali completely missed major emotions which a normal father can provide to her daughter.. She never experienced those beautiful and lovely bonding from his father.. Whenever Anjali had a chance to interact with him, he never tried or expose his fatherly emotions for her instead a simple conversation and concern.. I had seen Anjali trying to get that parental affection from Jagat.. Today whatever he is almost responsible for Anjali's motive in aiming everest.. Now his mixed emotions of both concern as a father and his clashes of ego overshadowed him.. Where he couldn't clarify his controlled emotions. Only after hearing expedition he revealed his certain amount of emotional concern as a parent but not as a father..?? None of the parents will allow their children to move on when the path is really hard and dangerous.. For any reason whatever happened today,a drastic step by Anjali's mission in attaining everest looks whole heartedly and indirectlly Jagat a catalyst.. Though I loved his fear of losing in his speech indeed I absolutely hate in underestimating her capability.. Sometimes that looks blind!!! Sarita had no way to heal her hurt, she had no other chance in supporting throughout her journey unless she will become more distressed when she already goes emotionally heartbroken by Jagat's words.. Parents must give a chance and foremost thing they should believe their own blood..!! Parental duites not alone enough for a child but a complete support, emotional bonding and sharing of words much needed for any children..!! Hope soon Jagat will try or get to read her daughter and supporting her through out her journey..


You know I realised one thing - that somewhere it is because of Jagat's ego/lack of confidence in his daughter that everyone else seems so determined & proud of Anjali making it to EVEREST, to the extent that her mother or others in support are not even realising Jagat's argument on the risks involved. If Jagat had not been so egoistic, then I think Anjali going to EVEREST would be handled differently. Her mother would have been more wary or afraid of sending her & even Vikram/Vidhan would not have constantly spoken in support of Anjali.
I agree with you, though. I hope Jagat understands, but I doubt he will. I don't know how the makers have planned to take his character forward. At this rate, I don't see how he will be proud of her even if she makes it to EVEREST. Let's see where this goes.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Priyam-

true! there was a hint of concern in Jagat's voice! (chalo Jagat insaan nikla.. I thot his his male ego is too much.. but ok its still too much.. ) bt this scene made me feel relieved, just a bit!

Now about the topic.. yes I think everyone's goal is equivalent to conquering everest. I mean I loved how the makers promoted the show..
they asked straight way what's your everest?

Well parents r always supportive, but they tend to be protective when it comes to these kinda stuff... involving risks.. but if your dream is one involving 'jaanlewa' risks still, I feel u need to pursue it coz its your dream.. you may not actually realize your dream but, at least there will be no regrets in future that you havent even tried...
Parents might be apprehensive but ultimately they have to/ will end up supporting their kids outta pure love! :D

well my parents do that its.. ;)


I see your point. You're right. EVEREST here is no different from any other everests in our life, even though the risks might be lesser. And yeah, dreams should be pursued against all odds. One should not leave the earth with any regrets. And nice to hear that your parents are supportive! You're a lucky girl😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Exactly.. It's like a kind of abnormal pressure one constantly dumping her calibre and others who can witness her ability to achieve her mission.. If Jagat would makes it easier to understand then definitely this journey will be handled smoothly. In reality being a father he will never accept to perform such a risky task.. Yesterday I could sense Vidhaan and Vikrams reaction on seeing Jagat's consistent unapproved words for Anjali.. Though I loved Vidhaan casualty level of answering which looks quite optimistic..!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well, Jagat also did say that if his son had tried to summit Everest he would have whole-heartedly supported his son but he wont support Anjali as shes a girl.

That proves that its not parental concern that is making him act this way, why hes so totally against Anjali's Everest expedition.

I think its his completely misplaced male ego that cannot accept that his daughter may be worth something, that his daughter can achieve what he himself could not, a conquest he would have expected a son to achieve.

He cannot accept Anjali's existence in his life because he cannot accept that he didnt beget a son!

His behavior towards his wife Sarita also demonstrates what an absolute MCP he is...Sarita is very scared of him and never dares to argue with him or question his decisions. She just begs him to reconsider. Is that how a normal husband treats his wife of 20+ years?


Edited by pallavi25 - 11 years ago

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