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Hansi, meri Nandu hansi..she was smiling and laughing. Yeah, she had tears in her eyes but wo khushi wale ansu the. MERI NANDU HANSI!! Seriously, the way this girl has been crying NON STOP for weeks now..it's testing my patience. At this point I don't want no romance or confession, I just want Nandini to bloody have a reason to SMILE and act 17 for Heaven's sake!

(Suha would yell at me to go study but since it's literature paper tomorrow, I believe I do have the right to take my time out and write today. Kal bhi major bullshittery hi likh ke aani hai so meh)

Two points which I bloody loved about today's episode.

One, the reason given behind Rishabh's attacks. I am no science student but I do know that radioactive materials are very dangerous. So to put that as reason for the attacks seemed very...impressive. If Rishabh has some radioactive traces in his brain, and Dhruv has something similar in his, it makes sense that when they get together in close vicinity those traces get activated and react in a way which is too much for any human, a young human, to bear and hence the attacks that they get. The pen maybe helps subdues the traces because Rishabh never feels attacks from the pen. And we've seen Dhruv handling bits of the pen as well so it's the same for him. Also, remember when Dhruv handed Nandini the missing piece of her Appa's pen, she noticed the glow in it which wasn't there pehle. I guess it got activated because it reacted to Dhruv's radioactivity. Some major science student will blast off this whole concept khade ke khade but since I am just your regular arts student, I am very happy with this somewhat of an explanation we got. At least the doctor didn't go, "hum ne aisa kuch nahin dekha. ye chamatkaar hai. aap ka bhai bhagwaan" type shit on Nandu and actually did give a scientific reason (the authenticity of it is not the point here) for the attacks. Ab the CVs can either make it go all the way scientific or put in mystical elements, wo unki marzi. But they put science here which is what we actually wanted. No extra terrestial shit from start to end but thodi zameen wali logic. And besides, we've gotten shows and movies with more what the eff logic than this chotu sa explanation and we've digested them so this isn't a development which sucked for me. It was actually a good development and one that is very much welcome by me.

Second, Nyonika.

God, this lady is MA QUEEN!!

I love Nyonika, I've always loved her. And I loved her more today because of the way she acted with Manik than her shove to Harshad. She's what I would call an Iron Lady. The one holding all the power. Territorial. There's so much going on in that pretty brain of hers, she's darn intriguing. Harshad thought that he had power on her, he was being too calm and casual with her. He thought that she is the end to all his "torments" being his sole partner who gets what he did and supports him. Harshad thinks he's some big player who'll always get what he wants and he'd get away with anything, that confidence in him was encouraged by Nyonika. He showed the same confidence with her today. But if she was the one who gave him the confidence in the first place, she ended up being the one who stripped him off it in mere seconds.

I thought that Nyonika's concern for Manik was genuine. She was genuinely pissed off at Harshad for forgetting his boundaries. The reason why Harshad did whatever he did to Manik was because Nyonika allowed him to do so. She's the one who's the real mistress of this little game the three of them play. Like I said, she's territorial. And her territory is Manik.

Now, I am no mother. I have literally zero knowledge of what a mother feels like, or why she does whatever she does. But I am someone who really doesn't go by the thought process that a mother should do this, a father should do that, a child should do this. Because I know we as humans are far more complex and stubborn to bow our heads and abide by the rules set up through generations. I know most of us do and that's why our society is functioning the way it is but even in his functioning society, we do have examples like Nyonika. Someone who mixes her maternal nature and her fierce individuality and then acts according to that. And this comes off as so twisted and different that automatically she becomes the villain and subject to hatred. I, on the other hand, find all of this very interesting.

Nyonika said that Harshad crossed his lines and that the only person who has the right to hurt Manik like that is Nyonika only. That was her maternal side speaking. A mother speaking of her right on her child. I pray to god she isn't a stepmother because that would take away all the fun from her. Or even if she is, I hope that she dealt with Manik from his very early ages. Khair, without digressing much, Nyonika has a firm belief that Manik is hers alone. She lets him play around, has this relationship of give and take with him, lets him baffle her and overpower her, but she knows it whatever that they have is shared by them only. Mutually. Exclusive. Family matters. Manik, sick of the games he was made to play with his family, went ahead and made a family of his own. The strong unit which he heads. But what ties him to Nyonika is blood and isn't that beautiful and suffocating the way blood ties are the strongest of the lot, regardless of what we think of them?

I found it interesting the way Nyonika pushed Harshad away, the way she showed her authority. Nyonika is the only adult between them. Fab5 and Harshad may think they are all that but they are still but children. Teenagers. Teenagers' tragedy is that they believe they make the world go round. They are older than the age to believe that life isn't all rainbows and butterflies and younger than the age where they'd actually realize what life is all about. This is just my general observation, not necessarily targetted to the characters of this show though it does hold true for them. Harshad held whatever he shared with Nyonika special, he made her want to help him by bringing those times up. But Nyonika brushed it all off. For her it seemed like something she did for fun. Here the difference in their age and maturity was marked. Nyonika knows, really knows, how to deal with her business.

She was mad at Manik for being so reckless, for risking his music over his grudges. It made me think that Nyonika has high hopes from Manik. The very fact that she isn't directly interfering with Manik's dreams despite having the power to do so, it makes me believe that she wants her son to get his happiness. Only thing is, she wants it on her terms. There's some very twisted relationship between the two of them and we can't actually say anything about it definitely unless we dig deeper in it. I am happy that we are getting bits and pieces though. If Fab5 is Manik's family and he can do anything for them, Manik is Nyonika's family. Family which is legit tied by blood. This give and take between them is just a way for them to make sure that their family is safe and not outside the boundary of their reach. This woman may be selfish and twisted and seemingly evil and ridiculous but she is a mother. I don't think mothers follow traditional rules for their children, do they? She is just following her basic instinct and right as a mother; my child, my business. Khushi tou meri taraf se, pain bhi tou only cuz I allowed it.

Mine. Mine. Mine.

Aren't the Malhotras too similar?

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Posted: 10 years ago
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OMG...what a post 👏
Respect 👍🏼

completely agree with ur post
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Posted: 10 years ago
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The moment i saw Nandhinis happiness i danced
And i remembered you Mais
Remember how in the At we were talking about her smiling
Sigh aaj mil gaya ❤️
And bade dino baad genuine happiness
And her first instinct was to share this happiness with Manik
And when she realized that he was not conscious she used this as a pretext to see him
Thse two babies be adorable 🤗

Umm Nyonika I dont know i mean my appreciation for her went down the drain when she said " nobody can hurt Manik but me" 🤔
Did not go quite well with me sorry
But i loved how she pushed Harshad away marking her authority
He just can exploit people and especially girls for his own purpose
And Nyonika proved this today
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Res
Right now I have one word for you LINGUISTICS..
you will be fine ...
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Can we get a hell yeah for no alien :'D Jokes apart I never doubted Vikku #straightface :'D
I am a science student but not a bio one so meh I don't care if this is actually plausible in real life either. It makes sense from the story point of view. And highly possible that the fallen star had these radioactivity traces. I liked the bit where the doctor said they were able to finally sense the problem because they examined him at the time of attack. Solid explanation that.

Coming to Nyonika.

The bitch is back and how! I love a cynical but at the same time totally chic...I was about to say villain.. but is she? We'll stick to character for now. She's all sorts of f**ked up. I'm the only one who can hurt him... That line.. it sent shivers down my spine. My baba..my poor, poor Manik. But sometimes I think Nyonika does what she does because that's the only way she knows Or she could be an A-type bitch... but I'd like to believe it's the former.

His fear of the dark, his fear that people would leave him, his need for constant attention... so much was explained. He's been manipulated for so much of his life.

Her equation with Harshad. She put him is his place. She's the boss of everyone and they damn well better remember it. Her actions are not forgivable, they never can be... but some where, in her own twisted way, perhaps even for her own selfish reasons, she cares for Manik. Not everybody is suited for parenthood and that's a fact.

It's interesting how Nandini got to witness the Manik/Nyonika equation.. even though these two know a lot about each other... they still keep so much of their past from each other, their sadness and their struggle.

They need to heal each other. And knowing about each other is the first step.

Edited by Firebolt - 10 years ago
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Mais, you said everything and more which I've been getting from Noyonika's character.
I actually think Noyonika does have motherly instincts, but in a very twisted way. No one harms Manik but her. Sheesh. She doesn't know softness or even empathy, but it was interesting that she mentioned his love for music in the hospital, not whatever she needs him for. And I'm guessing there's a financial angle to this relationship as well, something related to Manik's father. And no, she was not mocking him. She was mad at him for being so reckless about his greatest asset. It's the exactly the kind of reaction I'd expect Manik to have if someone he loved had acted like this. Like you said, like mother, like son. There is so much more to Noyonika than meets the eye. Which is what makes her so formidable.

About the Dhruv-Rishabh thing, NO ALIENS, bas. I don't care what scientific theory they come up with, just..no ETs in this show. Okay, CVs? Okay.
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I be coming back to discuss Malhotra's & Nandu's smileee
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I found your analysis interesting but I can't agree with you on your observation that Nyonika is acting like a mother. I am a mother of a teenager and although I cannot call myself as the world's best mom, there is such a thing as a motherly instinct which reaches out to your son in times of need. It comes from the fact that the mother is the one who carries her child 9 months in the womb. So the connection with her child is built long before the child is born. It is not the societal dictates which shape a mother's behaviour towards her child but this basic motherly instinct. There are mothers who lack it and Nyonika seems to be one of them. Yes, a mother does act territorial, guarding her child against the outside world but if she takes it as far as saying that only she has the right to hurt her child, that surely indicates a demented and sick in the mind mother, which is what she seems to be. Her son's health, happiness or well being does not seem to be her concern. He is just a pawn in her hands to play with as she deems fit. Why does Manik stick to her? Maybe he has no alternative. Maybe there is a will that binds him to her till he turns 21. Who knows but surely this mother-son relationship is not a healthy one.
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As you said she is the iron lady.now there is two kinds of iron lady one by birth and one shaped by the society.nynoika wasn't always like it.she was made this way by us.and the world need women like her because men think they can rule us but its women like nynoika malthora who says otherwise .i truly respect her.and maybe someday be like her. my own person who doesnt give a crap about anything else.i know i sound like a sadist but hey my fav english show is revenge.
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Originally posted by: Opti

I found your analysis interesting but I can't agree with you on your observation that Nyonika is acting like a mother. I am a mother of a teenager and although I cannot call myself as the world's best mom, there is such a thing as a motherly instinct which reaches out to your son in times of need. It comes from the fact that the mother is the one who carries her child 9 months in the womb. So the connection with her child is built long before the child is born. It is not the societal dictates which shape a mother's behaviour towards her child but this basic motherly instinct. There are mothers who lack it and Nyonika seems to be one of them. Yes, a mother does act territorial, guarding her child against the outside world but if she takes it as far as saying that only she has the right to hurt her child, that surely indicates a demented and sick in the mind mother, which is what she seems to be. Her son's health, happiness or well being does not seem to be her concern. He is just a pawn in her hands to play with as she deems fit. Why does Manik stick to her? Maybe he has no alternative. Maybe there is a will that binds him to her till he turns 21. Who knows but surely this mother-son relationship is not a healthy one.



I said this in the AT, motherhood is holy but mothers are no saints. Yes, I agree that the instinct to protect the child and to reach out to him in times of need is universal but Nyonika did show it. The moment she found out about her son being in such a state, she rushed to the reason of his condition and growled at him for daring to hurt his son. I am not judging Nyonika's behavior to be right or wrong, that's not my point. I am just calling it very interesting and intriguing and thinking of it in a more positive light. Healthy is the last thing that the Malhotras are, they are dysfunctional. And that's a fact. But there's some sense in this dysfunctional relationship of theirs.

I believe that Nyonika's line is being taken in a negative way whereas I found it in a positive way. Only she can hurt Manik? Why? Because she's a mother. Because she knows how he functions. Because she knows what he needs and at which time. She knows how much to let him run free and where to put a stop to him. She knows when to stay silent and when to step in to control. She knows when to ease the pain and when to teach the by pain. When she said only she has the right to hurt Manik because this woman knows the things which her son can understand only via pain. Thokar kha ke sambhalna. What Harshad did was painfully and ruthlessly push Manik off a cliff with every intention of harming him in the worst possible way. What Nyonika would've done was tripped him a way which would've been enough to feel the pain but not enough to never get back up again. She would've inflicted pain that would've caused him to come to his senses, get up, brush off the dust, and carry on. It's not like Nyonika rushed to cause him pain, she only marked the boundaries. That some things are solely exclusive to her and Manik.

I never believed that Nyonika treats him 100% like a pawn. Yeah, there's a give and take between them but he's no slave to her and she's not a mistress to him. And we really don't know the full details of their relationships. I am just assuming based of the bits and pieces that we do get..

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