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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi! Making another post after a bit cause like they say in pure filmi ishtyle... Raha nahi gaya. It is a rambling listing of my thoughts - please feel free to add your bit, agree, disagree...

And yes you guessed it - it is about Arzoo and her choice to stay mum.

There have been many ideas mooted as to her motivation - the most popular digestible idea being that she is doing it for Sahir so that his deal is not affected. Her doing it for her friend Zaki was also explained well by RedViolet in one of the responses. He did after all stand up for her and obviously helped her with a make-over - so there has been time spent bonding as friends (at least from her end). Someone had asked whether she was doing it for Samaira and that idea doesn't gel at all - she knows Sam from Jack... so no deal there methinks.

The thoughts that are tumbling over each other in my head are these -

1. Would Arzoo have kept quiet if her family was in town?

2. Doesn't being a good friend mean advising your friend to do the right thing - though it be scary and maybe even painful. In this case I am not talking about accepting Sam and her so-called' baby. [Note - Yeah she is looking rather suspect with her mithai and nonchalant attitude to pregnancy... given that she wants her 9 hours of sleep. Sam, your body is going southwards after the baby - spanx-time love.] Shouldn't Arzoo have insisted on Sahir being told. She has risked his wrath many times for lesser things... but ok. She is in love now and everything including your anger, fears, resentments and that unknown dread in your heart all become magnified. But she could have insisted on Zaki telling all to Sahir. Why hold his heart and hand and support him in being a bleeding baby. If he is old enough to roll in the hay, then isn't he old enough to handle his elder brother's wrath? The Arzoo, I thought, I saw earlier would have insisted on doing the right thing and not held the hand of someone who wants to run down the rabbit's hole and avoid reality.

3. Ok now presuming that we justify her going along with Zaki and put it down to her being young (she is after all only 23 or 24 I am guessing... though a young woman who has seen the tough side of life) and nave and good-hearted - all of which she is. But when Kurti Appa and Anam where in 5th gear with their accusations, why couldn't Arzoo use the golden word - the word that every young girl in the world is now being taught to say - NO!

She doesn't owe anybody any explanations. Least of all to Kurti Appa and Anam. She doesn't even owe Sahir an explanation - cause they have after all just had their first lovers (though we still won't acknowledge it) tiff' on limits and space and interference. BUT Arzoo owes her own dignity that one word. When Anam very dramatically tells her, answer or her silence will be construed as a yes', so are you preggers,' why couldn't Arzoo say "No". Khallas. Just one word - No!

When the women fall upon her with more questions she could have just as easily said "I will not say anything more on this" instead of standing like a long-suffering TV land martyr (a breed that I detest cause they are so lacking in spunk).

I realise everything will be sorted out and all this is leading to another BIG APOLOGY from Sahir (which will be a treat to watch cause both Harshad and Shivya rock) and Sahir understanding that Arzoo will never let him down (until the next MU occurs ;p), but my main problem is that this girl who is sorted in her head and spunky and full of chutzpah is choosing to be a martyr.

There is nothing glorious in being a martyr unless it is for your country. The kind of self-sacrificing martyrdom that is shown on television makes me angry cause we are teaching a whole generation that it is expected of you to bow down and demean yourself for the greater good. NO! it is not! Damn it! You can stand tall and erect and speak your truth and still aim for the greater good.

[I am going to digress a little here and add that, I love the way Sahir is being portrayed in Humsafars cause despite his myriad flaws (almost all rooted in some major past betrayal) here is a hero who is thoughtful, caring, logical, intelligent and respectful of a woman who has courage and is willing to stand her ground. He likes her for that. He tries to order her around but he is not in love with her cause she agrees with him or cause he manages to scare her. In that case he could have fallen for Linda too. He is in love with her cause she fearless, truthful, brave and willing to do what is right... even while she cares for him and jumps a mile high when he shouts.]

Arzoo could have just said No I am not pregnant and I will not say anything more on this.' And walked out without endangering the deal or the immature Zaki. How I wish Arzoo had said, "No." Not cause Sahir is hanging on not just to her every word but also her silence. Not cause it will shut Kurti Appa and Anam. Not cause it will give Alvira the freedom to continue to plan the grand nikah. But cause, the Arzoo who came down from Lucknow with a fistful of dreams and hopes really did deserve that her future self stood up for her ideals and dignity.

Of course I know this is all fiction and I am often amused at how much fiction can affect us... but there you go. Maybe it is cause we see a sliver or shadow of ourselves in these characters. Or cause we want to be like them. AND maybe we are all just jumping the gun and over the next week or two we will all realise "Oh that is why she kept quiet... ok I get that and I understand that." Could be. Cross fingers.

Hmmm... I definitely feel better after penning that. My head is clear and I can get on with my life until this evening's date with SaaZ.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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I LOVE your post...👏👏...in fact my post was similarly titled...with the views overlapping 😃
THIS in particular

There is nothing glorious in being a martyr unless it is for your country. The kind of self-sacrificing martyrdom that is shown on television makes me angry cause we are teaching a whole generation that it is expected of you to bow down and demean yourself for the greater good. NO! it is not! Damn it! You can stand tall and erect and speak your truth and still aim for the greater good.

I don't think anyone would choose to die for a cause if they have any option at all...and here there was a clear clear option of saying NO and walking away or indeed saying NO and then keeping quiet for any other questions flung at Arzoo...this way she would have indeed in her own mind even be spared of the feeling of not defending her honor !
Martyrdom is never a choice...of course depends on the situation,,,but you DO explore options...and here the alternative was so obvious!

Your points 1 and 2 above resonate very much with me too..yes...I wonder whether her decision to keep completely quiet or in fact keep quiet at all would have still held if daadi were to look at her horrified and her mother were to completely break down...!
And regarding Zaki...I think there were all indications that he was trying to pin this whole thing on Samaira...hinting she was not just with him..saying it outright in fact..yes the Arzoo who spoke of upholding the truth and doing the right thing should have told Zaki that he has to do the right thing by Samaira...she hasn't seen Samairas reaction to her pregnancy...her acceptance of what Zaki said is very odd !.

And I think I feel most bad that people like Anam got to point fingers for no reason.....this js not a good lesson taught at all...when there is a way to shut up people like her who have no business talking bad of you you take that option...!

Regarding Sahir he is the fairest and most egoless hero I have seen on a daily show...his ability to think beyond what he sees endear him to me...given his past and betrayal by his wife...his trust is very fragile so his reactions to those situation are understandable!

I hope no excessive guilt is attributed to him and a balance js maintained...when he makes amends for a situation he is not at all responsible for!

I agree that it's cathartic to express views and be done with it...don't know what it is about a fictional character but I simply can't stop myself either from stating what I feel😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Completely understand the need to pen, and get on.:)
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Wht a Brilliant post n u have said it all ...👏

I will Just stick by n say there are many loopholes in the track n more so I m not a big fan of the character assassination thing plus the whole "oh so nice FL " ...I thought ARZOO was Impulsive yet had a mind for her own ..looks like I was terribly wrong ...

I m sorry but she is a guest there ain't it. Why cross the line n bring n cause incovenievec to one n all 😆

Felt bad for sahir n I think all the right to feel bad n betrayed is his now ..period
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Yes even if u have promise to keep or a deal to protect (jis deal ke owner ka first right hai to know if something is wrong) you can't tell sumaira is pregnant ... you can still say a simple No that atleast u r not ... senseless
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: prettypri

I LOVE your post...👏👏...in fact my post was similarly titled...with the views overlapping 😃

@prettypri - thank you :)

THIS in particular

There is nothing glorious in being a martyr unless it is for your country. The kind of self-sacrificing martyrdom that is shown on television makes me angry cause we are teaching a whole generation that it is expected of you to bow down and demean yourself for the greater good. NO! it is not! Damn it! You can stand tall and erect and speak your truth and still aim for the greater good.

I don't think anyone would choose to die for a cause if they have any option at all...and here there was a clear clear option of saying NO and walking away or indeed saying NO and then keeping quiet for any other questions flung at Arzoo...this way she would have indeed in her own mind even be spared of the feeling of not defending her honor !
Martyrdom is never a choice...of course depends on the situation,,,but you DO explore options...and here the alternative was so obvious!

Your points 1 and 2 above resonate very much with me too..yes...I wonder whether her decision to keep completely quiet or in fact keep quiet at all would have still held if daadi were to look at her horrified and her mother were to completely break down...!
And regarding Zaki...I think there were all indications that he was trying to pin this whole thing on Samaira...hinting she was not just with him..saying it outright in fact..yes the Arzoo who spoke of upholding the truth and doing the right thing should have told Zaki that he has to do the right thing by Samaira...she hasn't seen Samairas reaction to her pregnancy...her acceptance of what Zaki said is very odd !.
True - you can't just take anything at face value - esp if you know Zaki is a flirt and gets around.

And I think I feel most bad that people like Anam got to point fingers for no reason.....this js not a good lesson taught at all...when there is a way to shut up people like her who have no business talking bad of you you take that option...!

Regarding Sahir he is the fairest and most egoless hero I have seen on a daily show...his ability to think beyond what he sees endear him to me...given his past and betrayal by his wife...his trust is very fragile so his reactions to those situation are understandable!
yeah he is just learning to trust all over again. But I guess once this misunderstanding is cleared the trust will increase multi-fold.
I hope no excessive guilt is attributed to him and a balance js maintained...when he makes amends for a situation he is not at all responsible for!
It will be nice if during the apology or making up scene Arzoo at least once mentions that she is sorry for not telling him the truth from the very beginning. But I guess that goes against everything TV :)

I agree that it's cathartic to express views and be done with it...don't know what it is about a fictional character but I simply can't stop myself either from stating what I feel😊

Thanks for stopping by and commenting :)
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: bluejalpari

Completely understand the need to pen, and get on.:)


hahhah thanks :) The funny thing is for someone who has never been in to any serial at all ever... Humsafars is getting to be a major obsession. Uff... black hole into which my time is disappearing :) - but no complaints. :)
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ecrivain



Wht a Brilliant post n u have said it all ...👏
@ecrivain - thank you :). So sweet of you. Can't believe it that fictional characters can get so under our skin. uff!

I will Just stick by n say there are many loopholes in the track n more so I m not a big fan of the character assassination thing plus the whole "oh so nice FL " ...I thought ARZOO was Impulsive yet had a mind for her own ..looks like I was terribly wrong ...

I m sorry but she is a guest there ain't it. Why cross the line n bring n cause incovenievec to one n all 😆
It is unreal isn't it - they way Arzoo and her family have just parked themselves there! Have some self-respect people. Rent your own digs!

Felt bad for sahir n I think all the right to feel bad n betrayed is his now ..period

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Soaps1

Yes even if u have promise to keep or a deal to protect (jis deal ke owner ka first right hai to know if something is wrong) you can't tell sumaira is pregnant ... you can still say a simple No that atleast u r not ... senseless


@ Soaps1 Agreed. It is rather senseless - this absolute silence. She could have at least said that she is not preggers without bringing Zaki and Sam into it.

And even I don't understand this presumption that on knowing the truth Sahir will blow up and destroy all chances of the deal happening - the very deal that he is working day and night for! He has always shown himself to be intelligent and patient and logical - at least on the professional front, when he is not going up in a jealous possessive smoke about Arzoo. the only reason the truth is being hidden from Sahir is cause Zaki is not willing to man up - whether the baby is his or not is something that can be confirmed with even Sahir in the know!


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