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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: EkPaheli


Always glad to have more here so like Ruby said never be sorry and would love to read your thoghts on this one, just read your latest post and have to say you are brilliant 👏👏👏


Thank you girls! I am flattered by all the praise I received from all you talented analytical folks. I will stop by often to blabber my mouth now because Forum se darr lag raha hai
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: daydreamers


Mani-ishita-raman

They were growing together... The reason was one... They were bending.. They were tackling together.. Every hurdle every fear.. They were falling together... The reason unknown...

Yes I know him

Yes I know her

The day they thot this life threw a test in front of them rather him...

Then came an unknown storm without a thunder without any pours.. That became the very test of his true love...


DD, 👏
Thank you for this very positive and thorough analysis of the char mani.
From the day Mani was introduced, I was intrigued by this character. His name was the most "attractive" element for me. He was introduced at a junction when ISHRA were contemplating the possibility of "being in love" .. An element from Ishu's past..
Even though in the beginning I used to think Mani is introduced to bring the jealousy angle in the drama, lately I get the feeling that he is here to enhance Ishitha- the Patni- The Mrs Raman Kumar Bhalla.

To me Mani also is counterpart of Asoaka..
What I am saying then is, Mani to me is
A character, who is here to enhance/ highlight Ishitha as an ideal wife, by playing the role similar to that of Asoaka in Raman-Shagun equation..

Mani, if noticed, only focus is Ishitha. This is reflected since the first meeting but very much emphasized in the episode yesterday. His every move, every action, every dialogue was around Ishitha.

Mani if noticed, bends his values, principles, disciplines, for Ishitha without a second thot.. Ishitha is his weakness. He cannot say no to her.

Mani is that best friend who secretly loves her. (There I said it!!!) but will not pursue her, because he knows he is not her choice and also she is now someone elses's wife.

Ultimately Mani wants Ishitha's happiness.


Now, going back to Raman's past

what we know of Raman-shagun-Asoaka ?

In a nut shell, Raman and shagun were happily married. Asoaka came into thier life, he highlighted to Shagun, where Raman was lacking as a husband. And one fine day Shagun walked out the marriage.

Now what is Mani doing? Unintentionally, may be, he is highlighting were Raman is lacking isn't it? Thus playing the role of Asoaka.
In this marriage, with Ishitha where is Raman failing as a husband? .

To me,
1) in openly showing his feeling for her,
2) valuing her opinion.
3) treating her as a partner
4) giving her importance
5) being there for her.

Yes yes he does all the above already. But in a twisted way, in a veiled way, where she or anyone for that matter, does not realize this.

What does Mani do, he does all the above 5 points openly, that there is no doubt in ishitha's mind that
Mani is the bestest, her savior, her problem solver.

This is what Raman fears, his inability to show his feelings, his appreciation, his love to Ishitha verses, the ease with which Mani showcase the same.

Now ishitha is not shagun. Will a man like Asoaka stand a chance with ishitha? No ofcourse not. Hence Raman does not fear men like Asoaka..

Will a man like Mani stand a chance with ishitha, no, ofcourse not. Because she is in love with Raman. The raman who is karela kumar, ravan kumar, nariyal kumar, and finally Ishitha's Raman kumar. This ishitha knows but does Raman?

No not yet.

that is why mani is here. To make Raman realise, ishitha may befriend many "mani"s but there can only be one Raman. Her man. To make him realise, Ishitha is no shagun, because ishitha loves raman where as shagun never did.








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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: ThithliDhost


DD, 👏
Thank you for this very positive and thorough analysis of the char mani.
From the day Mani was introduced, I was intrigued by this character. His name was the most "attractive" element for me. He was introduced at a junction when ISHRA were contemplating the possibility of "being in love" .. An element from Ishu's past..
Even though in the beginning I used to think Mani is introduced to bring the jealousy angle in the drama, lately I get the feeling that he is here to enhance Ishitha- the Patni- The Mrs Raman Kumar Bhalla.

To me Mani also is counterpart of Asoaka..
What I am saying then is, Mani to me is
A character, who is here to enhance/ highlight Ishitha as an ideal wife, by playing the role similar to that of Asoaka in Raman-Shagun equation..

Mani, if noticed, only focus is Ishitha. This is reflected since the first meeting but very much emphasized in the episode yesterday. His every move, every action, every dialogue was around Ishitha.

Mani if noticed, bends his values, principles, disciplines, for Ishitha without a second thot.. Ishitha is his weakness. He cannot say no to her.

Mani is that best friend who secretly loves her. (There I said it!!!) but will not pursue her, because he knows he is not her choice and also she is now someone elses's wife.

Ultimately Mani wants Ishitha's happiness.


Now, going back to Raman's past

what we know of Raman-shagun-Asoaka ?

In a nut shell, Raman and shagun were happily married. Asoaka came into thier life, he highlighted to Shagun, where Raman was lacking as a husband. And one fine day Shagun walked out the marriage.

Now what is Mani doing? Unintentionally, may be, he is highlighting were Raman is lacking isn't it? Thus playing the role of Asoaka.
In this marriage, with Ishitha where is Raman failing as a husband? .

To me,
1) in openly showing his feeling for her,
2) valuing her opinion.
3) treating her as a partner
4) giving her importance
5) being there for her.

Yes yes he does all the above already. But in a twisted way, in a veiled way, where she or anyone for that matter, does not realize this.

What does Mani do, he does all the above 5 points openly, that there is no doubt in ishitha's mind that
Mani is the bestest, her savior, her problem solver.

This is what Raman fears, his inability to show his feelings, his appreciation, his love to Ishitha verses, the ease with which Mani showcase the same.

Now ishitha is not shagun. Will a man like Asoaka stand a chance with ishitha? No ofcourse not. Hence Raman does not fear men like Asoaka..

Will a man like Mani stand a chance with ishitha, no, ofcourse not. Because she is in love with Raman. The raman who is karela kumar, ravan kumar, nariyal kumar, and finally Ishitha's Raman kumar. This ishitha knows but does Raman?

No not yet.

that is why mani is here. To make Raman realise, ishitha may befriend many "mani"s but there can only be one Raman. Her man. To make him realise, Ishitha is no shagun, because ishitha loves raman where as shagun never did.









Radz thank you so much for this positive response... It is so encouraging when it comes from you...😊

M so glad you took the angle wat I wanted to show ppl here... U have added more clarity to my angle indeed...👏

Juz like you I was very intrigued by his char from day one... The points I have said in this post were lingering for a long tym... But there was so much of negativity on d forum dat I feared to post my views...😆

Ppl were busy sympathizing wid Raman cz mani acco to them was the thorn who was interfering raman's life... But wat many of us failed was the role of Mani with respect to ishra... So I gave a disclaimer in d beginning of my post...😆 N yes u analyzed Mani here w.r.t ishra... But I haven't read ur interpretations of Mani before this one... So yes from my side ur post has really echoed my thots...

On lu thread today I said Mani is an amalgamation of ishita Raman n ashok... He is calm, he is honest n a shrewd strategist...

I don't deny this he is biased when ishu comes up... So nethn imp to her definitely becomes his priority...

N I have never denied this till date that from Mani's point it was not mere friendship but is an infatuation...

If u clearly look at d placement of these 3 char in frame one will appreciate the place of Mani...

Mani was always the third party who witnessed Raman ishu over a distance...

He never came in between ishra... It were Raman's insecurity that brought Mani in between ishra...


Whenever Raman stepped Mani backed off...

P.S. - ppl may thing y m I focussing over Mani so much... There r many who have already dissected Raman n ishita but no one tried for Mani... So I took d golden chance...😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
@DD,
Completely in sync with you DD.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: ThithliDhost

@DD,

Completely in sync with you DD.


I love you...🤗
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: redwine1



@ Bold ... brilliant piece of thot .. yea there he wanted to believe she did it for Toshi .. today at the end of the day .. he was desperate to make her believe he did not do it ...
but at the end of the day .. it was for him & it was for her ...

@ BOLD BLUE: --- HERES MY POV ... if there was no TRUST .. he would not hesitate to pick up the phone .. if there was no TRUSt .. the relation would not ever ever ever step into LOVE ...
The fact is ... his hesitation proves he did not TRUST himself .. he does not belive what happened with Shagun will not happen again with him .. thats his problem ..
He is holding her responsible for Shagun's crimes .. a woman who was immoral ... UGH u make me say this ... chalo .. i am breaking my rule here for u ..

Whats the BIG difference here .. how will he over come his past insecurities ... the game changer RUHI ...

Shagun left RUHI & walked out ... showing truly how immoral she was ... ISHITA will never abandon RUHI .. thats going to be the first eye opener for him .. to start thinking about his own issues .. How its impacting & coloring everything ...

If he did not trust her .. he would've blasted the crap out of her .. for lying .. he cried ... his heart broke .. based on what .. a simple prevarication from Ishita . she did not lie ( atleast he is unaware of the lie) .. she just said a patient ka call hai .. he also picks up the phone thinking why is she hiding a patients phone cal from me .. who is the patient ..

But he quickly jumped the gun to culpability ... showing its not ISHITA he does nott trust ,..,.. ITS HIMSELF 😳





I am back ..Lol
Diwali week actually took a toll that I couldnt reply to this one from you.
Raman doesnt have the heart to trust himself, He couldnt trust himself for being Ruhi's Best person ..so we could not ask him to trust himself in relations.
The trust issue I mentioned in this post was the Ultimate Trust - You know something like, even if he is lying ..it must be for a reason or even if she is hiding, it must have something better restored for both of them.
They lack this Trust and we cant blame any of the two since they both have never confided their vulnerabilities to each other ever- something which makes a couple move a notch higher.
'Ishita too infact have major ''self problem'' - she could no make herself to come to terms that Raman moved on in life , inspite of him saying it many times indirectly. She never feels someone can love her - Maye due to her infertility but something in her keep it back to move a step ahead that is why she prefers to confide it in Mani that Raman.
I hope it made sense 😉

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