What should be done to stop this?

Again I am back with the quota issue.... this time for employment in private sector as i was expecting....

http://www.rediff.com/money/2007/jul/06pmo.htm

PMO asks for affirmative action report by industry

BS | July 06, 2007 | 01:22 IST

The Prime Minister's Office has summoned the Confederation of Indian Industry, the Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry and the Associated Chambers of Commerce and Industry of India on July 14 to submit a progress report on the affirmative action taken by them.

Affirmative action here refers to direct efforts to ameliorate the educational and employment situation for Scheduled Castes, Scheduled Tribes and Other Backward Classes.

The United Progressive Alliance government had mooted reservation of jobs in the private sector for SCs, STs and OBCs to make the country's economic growth more inclusive. The associations had resisted the idea of reservation, though they had agreed to step up affirmative action.

The issue came to the fore again in May when, at a CII event, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh talked about the rising compensation of CEOs and the need for inclusive growth in the same breath, though the government soon clarified there was no proposal to extend job reservations to the private sector.

Apart from PMO functionaries and representatives of the three associations, the meeting is expected to be attended by other government officials.

The associations are expected to highlight the steps they have taken in the last two years on training and skill development.

"We have already identified 49 industrial training institutes. We have had negotiations with the labour ministry and state governments for 32 of these. Their management will be taken up by our members soon," said Ficci Secretary General Amit Mitra.

Assocham is expected to announce a Rs 5-crore fund for inclusive growth a day or two after the meeting.

My question is:

1. What can be done to stop this misuse of power by politicians for personal gain.

2. Do peaceful protests and court verdicts matter in such cases as we have seen both failing to government's habit of pressurising the institutions directly as well as courts?

3. What kind of revolution is necessary and is such a revolution possible?

4. Do we need Mahatma Gandhi or Bhagat Singh in todays world?

5. Why do people dont directly support this peaceful anti-quota protests but actively participate in violent protests?

6. Is democracy the best solution? Do we need presidential rule with only two parties than regional parties or parties backing particular caste?

7. Do we need the law desperately to ban all castes... and whether it is possible to bring such law with this politicians?

8. Is it high time for the non-corrupt mind people to come in politics?

9. Whom shall we blame if we dont take any corrective action now and have to pay tomorrow?

so many more questions

Originally posted by: kabhi_21

My question is:

1. What can be done to stop this misuse of power by politicians for personal gain.

2. Do peaceful protests and court verdicts matter in such cases as we have seen both failing to government's habit of pressurising the institutions directly as well as courts?

I don't know. This is a serious problem for sure.

3. What kind of revolution is necessary and is such a revolution possible?

The kind that involves intellectuals. It is possible, but unfortunately, we are very happy finding ourselves the best culture, best society, best nation in the universe.. With that ignorance, we fail to see the need to RISE for the better. (on a scale larger than essential)

4. Do we need Mahatma Gandhi or Bhagat Singh in todays world?

I don't think that would help. When it was a fight against FOREIGN power, we are willing to accept a leader.. When the fight is among us, within our system, I don't think there is substantial UNIFYING process involved. Leadership may not be welcome with open arms.. There clearly will be more people united against Jolie / Gere 😊? (just a thought)

5. Why don't people directly support this peaceful anti-quota protests but actively participate in violent protests?

more excitement? .. tired of peace not fetching justice after all??

6. Is democracy the best solution? Do we need presidential rule with only two parties than regional parties or parties backing particular caste?

haha.. I'll be banned if I said what my opinion of India's pseud-democracy is 😳

7. Do we need the law desperately to ban all castes... and whether it is possible to bring such law with this politicians?

We need it, but will never see light of the day for decades..

8. Is it high time for the non-corrupt mind people to come in politics?

I am not sure. I am too pessimistic and hence a bit ignorant regarding political issues to answer such questions

9. Whom shall we blame if we dont take any corrective action now and have to pay tomorrow?

KALIYUG 😆.. okay, the system, our constitution, power-greed, and non-patriotic/ lethargic residents happy as long as KSBKBT is still on, Ash and Abhi are finally married and Richard Gere is kicked out of our motherland for molesting daughter of the nation😆

so many more questions

Originally posted by: kabhi_21

My question is:

1. What can be done to stop this misuse of power by politicians for personal gain.

Politics and running a Government should be a PROFESSION not someones personal fiefdom to do as they please. If the entire system of voting a Government to power could change that we vote to bring educated, dedicated and professional people to run the country, I am sure we can do something, albeit small, to stem the misuse of power.

2. Do peaceful protests and court verdicts matter in such cases as we have seen both failing to government's habit of pressurising the institutions directly as well as courts?

🤢 Throw out the power hungry!

3. What kind of revolution is necessary and is such a revolution possible?

Yes, it is. Ultimately, the government is because of the people. Right now, it is a very minuscule part of the democracy which is protesting while the majority, the illiterate and the "caste bound" are ruling the roost. They benefit because of such politics, and consequently, the politicians who pan this vote bank. What we need to do is beat them at their game. How - I dont know. It would require large scale uprising amongst all classes.

4. Do we need Mahatma Gandhi or Bhagat Singh in todays world?

Neither. I would say we need a Sardar Vallabh Bhai Patel or a Subhash Chandra Bose. We need a balanced man, with both violent and non violent approaches to tackle every situation whcih comes his way. Someone as astute as Nehru, to shrewdly plan the way to beat the opposition.

5. Why do people dont directly support this peaceful anti-quota protests but actively participate in violent protests?

Because peaceful protests dont help really and only adds to frustration which ends up in violent protests

6. Is democracy the best solution? Do we need presidential rule with only two parties than regional parties or parties backing particular caste?

Tough to answer in short. Too many pros and too many cons.

7. Do we need the law desperately to ban all castes... and whether it is possible to bring such law with this politicians?

Yes. It was created for a different society, for different reasons. They do not exist anymore and we need to move with times.

8. Is it high time for the non-corrupt mind people to come in politics?

YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

9. Whom shall we blame if we dont take any corrective action now and have to pay tomorrow?

Ourselves. We allowed this to happen, with our "woh karega, yeh karega attitude".

so many more questions

Originally posted by: kabhi_21

Again I am back with the quota issue.... this time for employment in private sector as i was expecting....

Good to see with your topics once again 😊!!!! Your fight from Thailand against reservations remind me of the Netaji's struggle for the Indian Independence thro germany and Japan😆

http://www.rediff.com/money/2007/jul/06pmo.htm

My question is:

1. What can be done to stop this misuse of power by politicians for personal gain.

Rangde Basanthi style.....is apt but it is too filmy...... so if possible all the affected persons of higher caste need to buy some land(not more) and cattle so that they not get affected by reservations...

else migrate to other countries with a box of Indian mitti,Indian crops....just like inSwadesh movie and we can see that box when we remember our dharthi and mitti and all!!!

Nothing can be done to stop those politicians....YUVA filmm style also does not work!! What happened to the party set up IITians...in UP elections????

2. Do peaceful protests and court verdicts matter in such cases as we have seen both failing to government's habit of pressurising the institutions directly as well as courts?

Bapu is not relavant to this generation....Bapu needs a makeover ......to Netaji or atleast Patel ji...............

3. What kind of revolution is necessary and is such a revolution possible?

We need not do anything ,vinasha kaale viprit bhuddhih!!!! The vinasha kaala of these murky politicians has arrived and this is the reason for these immense reservations.........When some thing is beyond limits one fine day nature balances it................

4. Do we need Mahatma Gandhi or Bhagat Singh in todays world?

Bhaghat Singh !!!!

7. Do we need the law desperately to ban all castes... and whether it is possible to bring such law with this politicians?

Not practical..............

My question is:

1. What can be done to stop this misuse of power by politicians for personal gain.

I am still questioning democratically elected Prime Minister. I am wondering how party leadership can make such unconstitutional decisions and still get away with it?😕 When we are not even questioning the very existence of a non-democratic Prime Minister then what else can we do?

2. Do peaceful protests and court verdicts matter in such cases as we have seen both failing to government's habit of pressurising the institutions directly as well as courts?

I think to a great extend media matters. The Mattoo case saw justice because of media. If media forgets personal gain and supports common man then we can do wonders.

3. What kind of revolution is necessary and is such a revolution possible?

My answer would be as 2. Silent protest but we need media support to reach to common man all over the country.

4. Do we need Mahatma Gandhi or Bhagat Singh in todays world?

We need an insightful leader who can manipulate the strength and weakness of govt. We need a Chanakya.

5. Why do people dont directly support this peaceful anti-quota protests but actively participate in violent protests?

May be because they get frustrated. As they say 'Only crying baby gets milk'. So you shout and you will be heard.

6. Is democracy the best solution? Do we need presidential rule with only two parties than regional parties or parties backing particular caste?

Democracy is a good solution if we implement it. From a practical point of view two party politics is impossible in a country like India with a wide range of culture, language and religion.

7. Do we need the law desperately to ban all castes... and whether it is possible to bring such law with this politicians?

Either we should rewrite our constitution or we should clearly follow what is written in there. 'India is a secular country' and secular means where all are equal irrespective of any religion or caste they belong to.

8. Is it high time for the non-corrupt mind people to come in politics?

Hmm...Power makes most blind. It will depend upon surrounding and that is more educated, non-corrupt politicians then that might pave way for more of that kind. Then it will be easier to catch the black sheep.

9. Whom shall we blame if we dont take any corrective action now and have to pay tomorrow?

Us. Let us all get together in a mass scale. We need unbiased media with us. Our voice need to reach every nook and corner of our country.

so many more questions

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1. What can be done to stop this misuse of power by politicians for personal gain.

All thinking about personal gain only.......so we cant blame politician only...they total system want to change...

2. Do peaceful protests and court verdicts matter in such cases as we have seen both failing to government's habit of pressurising the institutions directly as well as courts?

Actuly Govt control is importent in institutions.....

3. What kind of revolution is necessary and is such a revolution possible?

Revolution happening very slowly.......Peoples view should change about Govt., that revolution is impt.

4. Do we need Mahatma Gandhi or Bhagat Singh in todays world?

Present situation Both are waste...... Bring Alexander back let him rule the whole world.

5. Why do people dont directly support this peaceful anti-quota protests but actively participate in violent protests?

if Govt. remove the Quota system, Did religious Group support? Did women organization support?

6. Is democracy the best solution? Do we need presidential rule with only two parties than regional parties or parties backing particular caste?

Ya democrazy is good.....with lot of reason,Which country now have the two parties system?its not possible.

7. Do we need the law desperately to ban all castes... and whether it is possible to bring such law with this politicians?

Can we ban the caste system in Religion , then we can do it n Govt. level.

8. Is it high time for the non-corrupt mind people to come in politics?

Ya People despreatedly need that...,am free😉

9. Whom shall we blame if we dont take any corrective action now and have to pay tomorrow?

Correct yourself.............then try to correct others........so we cant blame anyone.

Originally posted by: TallyHo

I think the pvt sector in India currently hasthe clout to put an end to this highhandedness...provided they stay united and rise above petty politics themselves!!

no they are not that strong to go against government.... Chidambaram will seat with tatas, ambanis and murthys.... tata... u get singur with all tax benefits.... ambani u get contract for new international airports and murthy.... he is already for reservations....

Originally posted by: mermaid_QT

Abhi, I hate to walk away from the post. I wrote whatever I could think of, though my knowledge is limited 😳 . It is a beautiful post with well-thought questions.

thanks a lot for ur views..... 😊

Originally posted by: greatmaratha

thanks for ur views😃