Criminals do it too ya know..... - Page 2

Originally posted by: ttt1

something is missing in the characterization of mala

a woman who decided to end the marriage because it was meaningless , choose to be happy , choose to mother a random girl can either be a and self centered manipulator or a nice soul

either ways she cant be clueless , she cant be this weak

she can be either a go getter (then there shouldnt be any self pity )

or she is as nice as paro believes her to be (then she should gather by now any attempts of paro to mend her relationship is putting both paro and rudra into captive situation like you mentioned)

feeling guilty for leaving rudra i understand , but this doesnt explain mala behavior completely , i see a flaw here in writting the character of mala , she is neither positive or negative as of now

Originally posted by: rithureuben

Robin hood took from the exploitative rich and gave wealth back to the hardworking poor. He was being just and not charitable.

Mala was a mentor to most girls in the village. She probably guided a lot of them with wisdom and taught them the ways of life. In the beginning she acts the same way to Paro and Bindi. It probably meant more to Paro because she had lost her parents and the kindness offered by Thakurain was special. In those episodes, she never searches for her son's face when she sees other boys playing, or wonders how old he will be when organising Paro's wedding. She shown just enjoying the moment and being content with the people around her. So whatever place Paro made for herself in Mala' heart is her own not Rudra's.

Yes, Rudra is not in the state of mind to listen to anybody. But when so much effort is made by his wife a few attempts by his mother won't hurt.

Originally posted by: deep0909

On Robinhood, please see my response to ladylala.

Yes ofcourse. Only Mala knows why she looked after Paro. They haven't told us that yet. So yeah, it could be premature. Ignorant? ok :-)

About Mala's feelings. Is she feeling guilty? I don't know. She seems to regret? Not sure what she is regretting. Not getting accepted by him soon as she showed up? Not taking Rudra? Not realizing this is how it will play out? She seems more shocked than guilty or regretful.

Ofcourse in future we can get any justification. But the facts we know until now. She chose to break the family. When you break a family there is a very good chance that you will get separated from your child. Had Mala not considered this when she made that decision?

Its also a fact that between her child and running away. She chose to run away. Even if Dilsher threw her out. She could have stayed there and waited till she was taken back in. Kaakusa would have done that immediately the next morning. Rudra would have done it. But she chose to walk and that is a fact. In the same situation, did not Paro sit outside and not go away?

It was hers to choose and she chose. And there is nothing wrong with it. But now to act like she was wronged is the part that most people including me cant seem to swallow...

Originally posted by: DexterRocks

Mala does come off as very self centered at this point. Lets forget that she has lead a guilt ridden life because of her deed, but what is she doing at present ?

Why did she even agree to come to Rudra now, leave his house ? Tejawat's betrayal right ? Would she come back and repent or even cry in front of Rudra had Tejawat been a good and wise man ?

She wanted to run away with Rudra, which would result in Rudra being separated from Dilsher ? In that case also he would be deprived off one of his parents.

And moreover, she did tell herself to Tejawat that she abandoned her son for him, and even Tejawat told Laila the same thing, then i dont understand why and how did the CVs forget that ? within a week, they are trying to justify Mala but bringing and Mohini's evilness and Dilsher's roughness here, but whatever it is Mala is not a saint to be treated like a godess, which currently the whole haveli is treating her to be.

It will be shameful if CVs show that Rudra forgave her because of Paro, she must suffer a bit, she must repent a bit, she must realize the suffering he has been through and beg for forgiveness, and Dilsher, i cannot even say how i am completely in disrespect for this man now ? Hypocrisy and selfishness can be learnt from both Dilsher and Mala, putting your son under the bus for their self satisfaction, forcing him to drown into misery for their own luxury and solace and then they expect forgiveness from him , especially when they themselves are manipulating his wife with their crocodile tears of self pity and self guilt. RIDICULOUS.

Originally posted by: evenjleena28

Well that's extreme isn't it? so by that definition even Rudra is a criminal as he didn't uphold the law and he infact broke many laws himself...not providing his witness with a lawyer, drinking and driving, coercing a witness into signing a false statement, intimidating a witness and breaching her human and constitutional rights makes him a criminal too albeit one in uniform. One can say he did it for his country then we shouldn't be categorising the other terrorist in the criminal category then because they do it for their country too don't they?

That's what we don't know if she is guilty or not, and the fact we do have currently are incomplete. So to base a full judgement on something that is not even finished does seem premature. Atleast to me. That's why when one goes to the court both sides get to hear the story and depending on the circumstances either judge or jury makes the decision. That does not mean guilty has to go scott free or to be crucified. Mala broke the family who is denying that? why she did it that is the question.

I personally don't think she is acting like she is wronged. I think she is acting like she has no clue now why she is acting like that is the mystery. I have always said that to leave a husband is something I can handle but to abandon a child there better be a good reason. If she was in a loveless marriage with Dilsher and she left I don't mind that what I do mind is why the child was left alone. I am waiting to hear all that if Rudra decides to listen because as we all know the story is from his POV so until and unless he listens none of us are going to know the full story.

I think she realises that her decision has affected many and now she has to pay the price all I want to know is why did she chose what she did...I do believe in listening to both sides first before jumping into conclusion that's my way...of course I am not assuming every single person here is like me.

Originally posted by: deep0909

I'm not sure if it is extreme. There was court martial ordered against Rudra for his actions. And he was suspended for human right violations. So the law did take its course here.

Regarding Robinhood, What you bring up is an eternal question. What is right and what is wrong? From whose perspective? A terrorist for one is a freedom fighter for the other. Yeah I don't think humanity has got a hold of the right answer for this puzzle just yet...

Maybe I am being premature regarding Mala. But I am basing my opinions on what is shown so far. These are facts. They cannot be retracted. Tomorrow the CV's can try to justify her actions via evil mohini or cruel Dilsher. But they cant change the fact that she broke up the family. She left Rudra behind. (tried doesn't count)

All my points are based on these facts only...

justifications will come and maybe I will buy them too... :-)

Originally posted by: evenjleena28

He was only court martialled on one thing which was to keep Paro outside and the picture was leaked. What about the other matters? and he wasn't even reprimanded properly...all he was told to sort the mess in few days otherwise say good bye to the job..no legal action. After he came back to BSD he still broke laws in the last few days so for that I would like to see where it goes.

Exactly, regarding RH it is eternal, and perception does vary so you think he is a criminal and we don't...or atleast La and I don't.

I am glad you atleast realised that you may be premature. You are entitled to base any opinion not only for Mala but for anyone...same way we are entitled not to agree. Just because she left R behind does not make her a criminal. Yes what she did was wrong and morally abhorring but how can that lump her in the same category as a criminal? she perhaps may be charged for child neglect at the most but I doubt any court would indict her though...she has done wrong by abandoning her child I am not denying that what I am denying is she is not a criminal. She may be a bad mom but being bad doesn't automatically make one a criminal.

Originally posted by: deep0909

Agree. mala's characterization is not being revealed properly and causing this angst. From what we see so far, I am not a fan of her behavior or choices...

Even Mythili is living thro the most strenuous circumstances. But she choses to stay and live her life. Paro is also choosing to accept and live thro the challenges that life is throwing at her. Life is no picnic and you don't run from it. Mala ran and it didn't lead her to much.

RR seems to be showing this to us it seems (or atleast I hope) :-)

RR is no work of literature but I guess there are life lessons you can take from an Indian serial as well?

Originally posted by: deep0909

ohevenjleena28! You misunderstand me. I have not said that mala is a criminal at all!

My dear, I am saying that she could have been behaving in a manner that is similar to a criminal. Where the criminal does charity for a reason. And her looking after paro (charity)could have been a way to make herself feel better. Not really with the primary intent to do good for paro. that is what I am trying to say. No way I am calling Mala a criminal. She is not!

Regarding the law. Its a good thing that Rudra got threatened with a court martial and an actual suspension. This being India, its more than one can expect :-)

Absolutely. I don't expect anyone to agree with me. I am just happy if I agree with me :-)

No dear, you are absolutely entitled to your opinion and I am happy you took the time out to share your opinion with me and have this discussion

cheers!