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Posted: 11 years ago
#81
As a woman I detest the idea of public humiliation of a wife, but we must not forget this show is based in 16th century, and there is nothing amiss in a husband scolding his wife before his other wives and mother... Also it was not that Jalal didn't rebuke or scold Ruqaiya in public, but when he did, she CLEARLY ASKED JALAL NEVER TO DO THAT AGAIN...and Jalal gave her this promise...so its not about why Jodha and not Ruqaiya...am sure if Jodha will point this out to Jalal, he will take care of it in future...if not then he'll defo be wrong.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Mansi,Episode was Ok,

jodha & Maham scene,

Maham shouts Jodha,so Jodha again knows, how Maham, Hates her cause of Rajvanci,

but jodha ans was, I am piiti on You, (cause of your this thinking ), so jodha knows

her vision is again very clear, Energy should not waste, stupid kind of people, because

nothing will get, wasting energy on them😆 😆


D E K scene;

This scene was good, Jalal is Getting, Gifts, different parts of INDIA;

So jalal Hight, & respect, is increasing out of Agra,He is now Famousing, as a Good & Kind King, who thinks for his Awam, so this achivement, will give Good- energy to jalal, & jalal will do more good for his Kingdom.

So he is going to near becoming AKBAR.

1; Sujamal letter, Jalal words, he attacked on Mewath, but my personaly opinion, about him
is Different;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;So Sujamal & Jalal realtion becoming Good, so Sharrif Have to going to be a problem.( So realtionship going to different level)

Jalal & Sujamal Trust is incresing (so jalal will know more about rajvancies,Culture, they are honest, & Fair. )

2;Rajvanci's giving Laggan time to time, cause of BM, so Realtionship, between, Jalal & Rajvancies, going to be closer, so jalal is going to be Politically Benifit.

3;; MP letter, MP clears, which you done good, but your, & my realtion, would not change.
so here Jalal clears, He praise, MP for his Brave &Clear vision.( so here MP, & jalal both
appriciable, because both are correct at their on place.)

(Here noted point is this, Ragvancies going to side, with Jalal, cause of his Good-policies

& MP is standing, with some Ragvancies, so Politically this point, very Important.in 16 cen.




So AKDHA 1 anniversary.😆 😆 😆 😆

Both recalles their Marriage anniversary👏 👏

scene was good, Jodha's Kangan pearl has broken, our Jodhu so much loves jalal now,

wants Johari will come her Hozara, & maintain this.

Precap, we have seen, jalal some shouting, is He going to jodha's Hozara, today, Becoming

Johari 😆 😆if happen this scene will be more interesting.😆 😆

Both are accurate time, knows, they should go Dargah

Here heart level contactvity again shown. (Jodha goes to Dargah, means she is Respecting
jalal realgion,( we already shown How jalal worshipped Kanha & Tulsi )

So both wants to respect eachother realgion.

Dargh scene chemistry was Amazing, Little NOK-ZHONK was good,Actually, when we confuse, then we talk, IDHAR/ UDHAR,

but when jalal, present his hand to jodha, LET"S WITH ME, i liked that scene, means

you are with me, because they came seperately, but they Met Dargah, after some naughtiness, responsibility came;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; acc to Jalal;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;He wants to live this movement & wants to share, some, so COME WITH ME.⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️


Last scene;;

All are Happy, cause of Akdha anniversary.

HB, watching Prepartions😆

Akdha are talking, (But i felt less chemistary), But normal talk. Scene was good.

.😆 😆 😆 😆Hum Dilkass Nahi HEE.😆 😆 😆 😆 In 16 cen, Kassh beauti contest Hote.

So Rahim life is Danger now, & jalal saved Rahim.

Is Sh;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;az recalled, her Child, Memories, when she saw Rahim Doll?

Is sh;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;az has Girl child?

Sh;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;az felt happy, when she Got Doll, Right she mentelly disturb, but
her happyness shows, she is missing her Child, depply, & acc to her her child is now with her
Hands.

Is TM will tell about sh;;;;;;;;;;;;;az?
Precap;;

Let's see How it happens.What is Jodha reaction? What & How jalal reacts?

Is jalal angry with Jodha & goes To Manofy, becoming Johari or as a Husband.😆

but surprising thing is that, when jalal was Running, where is Security & Dassies, who look after Rahim😕 😕


Surrung mystry, & sh;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;az have some connection. 😕


So Surrung,Mystry, Ruk Fake pregnancy, track on the floor, If Ruk pregnancy then track will go Long, .but EKTS serials Fake pregnancy happens.



So Today Anniversary Of AKDHAwe all are invited, 8 pm on Z TV.

How it Comes,😉But Salim Came after seven years, so 1 year completed.😆 😆







Edited by ayushimehra - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: minnie2308

Hmm...I am a mom and as a mom , I wanted more out of Jo.

I react more to a slight scratch for my kid. She was lukewarm in reactions today!
Offcourse I am not forgetting what Jo did earlier, so I will not want to discuss all that. But today, she should not fight with Jalal for Shehnaaz, unless offcourse Jalal has decided to punish Shehnaaz very severly. It will not appear sensible on her part.
If he is just being harshly critical of Shehnaaz's action, I think Jo should let him vent. he is just a worried father, even if she does not come across as a worried mother to me atleast.
And if he is calling her paagal becuase of Shehnaaz's action, I think it is fine. She definitely is! BTW it was quite easy for Shehnaaz to save rahim, she could have just extended her hand...😕


I am totally with you, Minnie. I am shocked at how mothers are being shown in this serial. From HB to MV. Being a mother myself, I get very irritated with reel and real mothers who don't seem to care for their kids.

Yes, Jo did a lot for underage girls and the kids of slaves. So it is even more surprising that she is not showing more concern for Rahim whom she treats like her own son and for whom she felt guilty about leaving behind in Agra. I am willing to wait and see how the actual episode is and I will reserve my comments now (enough said by me already).

I just want to add an incident that happened recently in my family. It is just to lighten the mood of the thread, considering we have become pretty serious about this Rahim incident.😊

My 6 year old son was playing with my 3 year old nephew and while playing, he fell down and hurt himself badly. My nephew saw him and started laughing. My son got angry and hit him hard. At this, my poor nephew started crying and went to his mom and complained to her. He told her, "You only told me to always laugh, no matter what happens in life. But see, today when I laughed, Bhaiyya slapped me." It took us sometime to control our laughter and explain to him that it is not appropriate to laugh when someone falls down and gets hurt.

The point is, apart from making the mood light, if we can explain to a 3 year old that it is not appropriate to laugh in certain instances, we can explain the same to a mentally challenged person also. Sure Shehnaz may not have realized the gravity of the situation on her own, being lost in the happiness of getting the dolls. But I feel she is intelligent enough to understand if things are explained properly. It's not anyone's fault here, not even Shehnaz. Such things happen all the time. God knows how many times my son has got hurt or even lost when with me.

But we cannot brush them aside saying she is too dumb to understand. We have to take the necessary pains to make her understand. If that fails, we have to ensure that there is always someone (a bandi perhaps) with her at all times to keep an eye on her. After all, we cannot compare normal people playing with kids and mentally unsound persons playing with kids. The two situations are totally different. If an accident happens, a normal person will know what to do. A mentally unsound person will not know.

Till now, Jo and Jalal didn't have any idea of Shehnaz's eccentricity. Bu now that they do, they should ensure she does not put herself or anyone else at risk again. It is their responsibility.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: MaddyO



Mansi I read the spoiler Geet has shared. It says many things accurately. Shehenaz will cause Rahim to fall, Jalal will save. Jalal will shout at Jodha for saying Shehnaz is not all sane and LATER Jalal will regret at being HARSH with Jodha especially on their Anniversary!

Rukayya will be upset with Jalal and will WANT JALAL TO PUNISH JODHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jalal will go to Jodha cos he will realize he was hash with her - so see what charming episode we have got coming up - PLENTY OF SHOUTING AND INSULTS OF JODHA BY Jalal, Ruk and even SB it seems!

CVs are back to what they love best - INSULT JODHA PUBLICLY 😡😡😡


I would LOVE for Jodha to tell Jalal go to your precious Rukayya.

AGAIN i am not talking about Jalal's anger or the cause of it but AT PUBLICLY SHOUTING AT JODHA😡


Maddy, I can understand anything and everything but this thing about "punishing Jodha" is something I simply fail to understand. 😆 Why should she be punished? If Ruq is not punished for breaking harem rules on at least 3 occasions (Moti-AK case, Murty Kand, Sujamal case), what has Jo done to deserve punishment? Surely picking up cudgels on behalf of someone else is not a sin or a crime?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: tamy267

Mansi, I too think SR will telecast soon😳😳 probably next weel...but I dont think Ruqu will get caught so early...it will take time.

I liked the episode...but totally hated Shehnaz...😡
this is JaJo' first anniversary but here we get fights between them (courtesy Shehnaz😡)
things I liked -
1. Jodha gracefully confronted Maham and without shouting like her she retorted her back.👏
2. how both Jalal and Jodha remembered their wedding anniversary at the same time and how they rushed to the Dargah. I loved Paridhi's expressions here..her voice modulation was excellent.⭐️
2. JaJo's Dargah scene..how Jodha was looking for him and he secretly stood behind her..😳I also liked how Jalal offers his hand to her before leaving..it was serene and beautiful.
3. I liked the hojra scene too...loved the nok-jhok..now that's my JaJo! when they do nok-jhok, I am happy and relaxed that all is fine.😆
4. Jalal's saving Rahim...it was a well shot scene..totally loved Rajat's expressions here..once he caught Rahim, hugged him tight..he looked as if he went numb..superb expression! he nailed the scene.👏

disliked -

1. Maham's whip lashing..I cant tolerate this lady even for a second!😡😡
2. Shehnaz's laughter.😡😡


precap: Jalal has full right to get angry! had not he been there, Rahim could have died! Shehnaz must not be defended here..she is completely at fault...now coming to Jalal publicly shouting at Jodha, this one thing he needs to avoid..but Jodha also needs to remain silent when Jalal is angry.
see, koi bhi DEK mein Jalal ka mukhalfat nahi karta, Ruqu bhi nahi! issi liye no one gets to face his lashings...but Jodha always does this..hence she gets the burn of Jalal's anger...once in initial episode Ruqu did, and she also faced the same! thing is, Jalal has temperament issues..so its better to wait and give him space..once uska gussa shant hojaye, u can put forth your arguement...par ek already fumed Jalal ko aur gussa dilaoge toh u will only get insulted be it Jodha, Maham, Ruqu, Atgah, Hameeda or anyone in Agra.
and we all know he is sensitive to kids.
so, both JaJo need to learn and work in this..both need to talk about it..like Ruqu took a promise from him..Jodha also needs to do the same and she has to stop arguing him at DEK or any public place esp. when he is angry. Jalal ko bhi apne gusse pe kabuu karna chahiye..aur har jagah apne Begum pe chillana nahi!


the bold parts...BANG ON. Jodha should wait to express her POV not when a child is just saved.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: mishtidoi

As a woman I detest the idea of public humiliation of a wife, but we must not forget this show is based in 16th century, and there is nothing amiss in a husband scolding his wife before his other wives and mother... Also it was not that Jalal didn't rebuke or scold Ruqaiya in public, but when he did, she CLEARLY ASKED JALAL NEVER TO DO THAT AGAIN...and Jalal gave her this promise...so its not about why Jodha and not Ruqaiya...am sure if Jodha will point this out to Jalal, he will take care of it in future...if not then he'll defo be wrong.



I agree 100% - I wish they show Jodha doing this and taking promise from Jalal. Would be nice if she asks for this as WA gift!

Even in 16th Century I am sure they respected women. Jalal does give huge respect to MA, HB, SB and Rukayya. It was only with Jodha he used public insults. Now when they are showing him in love with Jodha shouldn't he treat her with more respect?

Again it is not Jalal's anger but PUBLIC shouting I can't take. He does it with Jodha only, never with Rukayya and MA. Is it a big thing to expect from CVs to show fair treatment to all female characters?

You want to bet CVs won't show such a scene since they enjoy showing Jodha's humiliations.
She is not in Agra for 2 days and we already got MA shout at Jodha and Rukayya insult her. 😭

I am not talking about Jalal's anger but PUBLIC anger and shouting. Is SB also not responsible for Rahim's care - will he shout at her? I want to see.

All I ask if fairness in treatment of all ladies - nothing more.


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Posted: 11 years ago
#87

Originally posted by: history_geek




Oh.Yes...!!!...How can i forget this.?. This brave Queen...Rani Durgawati...This was another blooper..😕

I wrote about her..In my thread around 3 months back in my reply to Mansi. Here's the link:
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/102023465


She was a Princess of the famous Chandella Rajputs of Mahoba, { now in Uttar Pradesh }. (Mahoba is the same kingdom, against which Prithviraj Chauhan fought , and Allah and Udhal fought from the side of the ruler of Mahoba. Remember.?. )

She was married in the Gond Rajvanshi principality, to the son of Raja Aman Das. She soon became a widow and installed her minor son on the throne and ruled on his behalf. She was fighting with Mughal Forces CONSTANTLY for MANY years, starting from the time when Baz Bahadur ruled Malwa. She defeated him multiple times. Her kingdom stretched from present day North Madhya Pradesh and Narmada Valley. She was known FAR AND AWAY for she was an EXCELLENT marksmen, both with a gun and bow and arrow. She was an able administrator and had brought "24,000" parganas 😲 under her rule, and had her personal officers(governors, called 'Shiqdars'.) placed in 12,000 of them for administration.😲

Rani Durgawati (a great warrior. She fought her LAST battle against the Mughal Governor Asaf Khan around 1564 while fighting in Garh area, of central India, and finally finding surrounded by enemy, stabbed herself. It is recorded for her that, she used to drink water, only after killing the tiger, if she heard the voice of this beast.🤓 Commanded the army, herself in the battle-field, since her husband had died long before, and had defeated surrounding rulers also, including Baz Bahadur of Malwa.)

Note:
Asaf Khan = Adham Khan ( I mean what Adham wanted to do with Rani Roopmati in Malwa, same Asaf Khan wanted to do here. 🤬)


To fight her, Akbar sent his 7 MAJOR commanders.😕

1. Muib Ali Khan,
2. Muammad Murad Khan,
3. Wazir Khan,
4. Babai Qaqshal,
5. Nasir Bahadur,
6. Aq Muhammed,
7. Under the leadership of Asaf Khan , Supported by other 'jealous' principalities of Deccan.

Abul Fazl has praised her BRAVERY in Akbarnama. See Akbarnama, Vol.2, Ctr-52.
Though, he calls her "Proudy" as she did NOT surrender to the Mughal forces. 👎🏼

Now, coming to episode. Yesterday, they showed us, that Rani Durgawati sent a letter CONGRATULATING...!!!!!. 😕IMPOSSIBLE.!!!!!!!!!. She lost her husband, fought continuously against the Mughal Forces for 5-6 years, suffered a lot and here they are showing as if NOTHING happened. 😲

I can take any BLUNDER, BUT NOT THE POLITICAL ones. 🥱
I hope this clears your query.😊

Actually, it seems CV's have taken up all names they knew of those people who opposed Emperor Akbar and wrote the dialogues.😆😉



I really sympathize with you, Abhay. For those of us not so aware, it's OK. For folks like you, it must be tough to watch such historical blunders. And not be able to do anything about it.

The CVs must have taken all the names of Akbar's contemporaries and put them in the script yesterday. They may have thought that viewers will at most think if these people were around Akbar's time or not. They may not have reckoned that there will be viewers like you who will also know how their (the contemporaries) relations were with Akbar. Since viewers like you are a minority, the CVs don't care.

When the CVs don't care how they present their leads, Akbar and Jodha, do you think they will bother about such details? I think they have completed whatever research they had to do about core issues and are now just sitting in their rooms and filling in the details as they please. This serial is slowly going down the drain.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#88

Originally posted by: history_geek




Oh.Yes...!!!...How can i forget this.?. This brave Queen...Rani Durgawati...This was another blooper..😕

I wrote about her..In my thread around 3 months back in my reply to Mansi. Here's the link:
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/102023465


She was a Princess of the famous Chandella Rajputs of Mahoba, { now in Uttar Pradesh }. (Mahoba is the same kingdom, against which Prithviraj Chauhan fought , and Allah and Udhal fought from the side of the ruler of Mahoba. Remember.?. )

She was married in the Gond Rajvanshi principality, to the son of Raja Aman Das. She soon became a widow and installed her minor son on the throne and ruled on his behalf. She was fighting with Mughal Forces CONSTANTLY for MANY years, starting from the time when Baz Bahadur ruled Malwa. She defeated him multiple times. Her kingdom stretched from present day North Madhya Pradesh and Narmada Valley. She was known FAR AND AWAY for she was an EXCELLENT marksmen, both with a gun and bow and arrow. She was an able administrator and had brought "24,000" parganas 😲 under her rule, and had her personal officers(governors, called 'Shiqdars'.) placed in 12,000 of them for administration.😲

Rani Durgawati (a great warrior. She fought her LAST battle against the Mughal Governor Asaf Khan around 1564 while fighting in Garh area, of central India, and finally finding surrounded by enemy, stabbed herself. It is recorded for her that, she used to drink water, only after killing the tiger, if she heard the voice of this beast.🤓 Commanded the army, herself in the battle-field, since her husband had died long before, and had defeated surrounding rulers also, including Baz Bahadur of Malwa.)

Note:
Asaf Khan = Adham Khan ( I mean what Adham wanted to do with Rani Roopmati in Malwa, same Asaf Khan wanted to do here. 🤬)


To fight her, Akbar sent his 7 MAJOR commanders.😕

1. Muib Ali Khan,
2. Muammad Murad Khan,
3. Wazir Khan,
4. Babai Qaqshal,
5. Nasir Bahadur,
6. Aq Muhammed,
7. Under the leadership of Asaf Khan , Supported by other 'jealous' principalities of Deccan.

Abul Fazl has praised her BRAVERY in Akbarnama. See Akbarnama, Vol.2, Ctr-52.
Though, he calls her "Proudy" as she did NOT surrender to the Mughal forces. 👎🏼

Now, coming to episode. Yesterday, they showed us, that Rani Durgawati sent a letter CONGRATULATING...!!!!!. 😕IMPOSSIBLE.!!!!!!!!!. She lost her husband, fought continuously against the Mughal Forces for 5-6 years, suffered a lot and here they are showing as if NOTHING happened. 😲

I can take any BLUNDER, BUT NOT THE POLITICAL ones. 🥱
I hope this clears your query.😊

Actually, it seems CV's have taken up all names they knew of those people who opposed Emperor Akbar and wrote the dialogues.😆😉


Thanks Abhay, its enough.😆 😆


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Posted: 11 years ago
#89

Originally posted by: history_geek


BTW, forgot to say thanks for the detailed info about this wonderfully brave queen. 👏👏👏Wonder why no one praises queens like her who had the guts to stand up to the mighty Mughal kingdom? Many people prefer to sing paeans to the likes of Ruqaiyya and Noor Jehan, who may have been good at hunting tigers, but I wonder if they ever actually fought a war.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tamy267

Mansi, I too think SR will telecast soon😳😳 probably next weel...but I dont think Ruqu will get caught so early...it will take time.

I liked the episode...but totally hated Shehnaz...😡
this is JaJo' first anniversary but here we get fights between them (courtesy Shehnaz😡)
things I liked -
1. Jodha gracefully confronted Maham and without shouting like her she retorted her back.👏
2. how both Jalal and Jodha remembered their wedding anniversary at the same time and how they rushed to the Dargah. I loved Paridhi's expressions here..her voice modulation was excellent.⭐️
2. JaJo's Dargah scene..how Jodha was looking for him and he secretly stood behind her..😳I also liked how Jalal offers his hand to her before leaving..it was serene and beautiful.
3. I liked the hojra scene too...loved the nok-jhok..now that's my JaJo! when they do nok-jhok, I am happy and relaxed that all is fine.😆
4. Jalal's saving Rahim...it was a well shot scene..totally loved Rajat's expressions here..once he caught Rahim, hugged him tight..he looked as if he went numb..superb expression! he nailed the scene.👏

disliked -

1. Maham's whip lashing..I cant tolerate this lady even for a second!😡😡
2. Shehnaz's laughter.😡😡


precap: Jalal has full right to get angry! had not he been there, Rahim could have died! Shehnaz must not be defended here..she is completely at fault...now coming to Jalal publicly shouting at Jodha, this one thing he needs to avoid..but Jodha also needs to remain silent when Jalal is angry.
see, koi bhi DEK mein Jalal ka mukhalfat nahi karta, Ruqu bhi nahi! issi liye no one gets to face his lashings...but Jodha always does this..hence she gets the burn of Jalal's anger...once in initial episode Ruqu did, and she also faced the same! thing is, Jalal has temperament issues..so its better to wait and give him space..once uska gussa shant hojaye, u can put forth your arguement...par ek already fumed Jalal ko aur gussa dilaoge toh u will only get insulted be it Jodha, Maham, Ruqu, Atgah, Hameeda or anyone in Agra.
and we all know he is sensitive to kids.
so, both JaJo need to learn and work in this..both need to talk about it..like Ruqu took a promise from him..Jodha also needs to do the same and she has to stop arguing him at DEK or any public place esp. when he is angry. Jalal ko bhi apne gusse pe kabuu karna chahiye..aur har jagah apne Begum pe chillana nahi!



Tamy you have made a nice point. However that used to happen in earlier days when Jodha was in hatred mode or uptill Ben track when she went to Jalal with information about Ben and he used to insult her.

Recently we have not seen Jodha contradict him in public or argue!

All I expect is that they show respect to all female leads and fair treatment to all.

Don't you think Jalal ALWAYS gives respect to MA, Ruk, HB and SB. Is it too much to expect the same from him for Jodha - who he now loves also?!

I just want the CVs to be fair and not show Jodha publicly insulted all the time.

What has been shown since Jodha is in Agra - MA shouted at Jodha, Rukayya insulted Jodha and now Jalal.

Why is Jodha ONLY reserved for this treatment by CVs? I guess not cos they always only do this about Jodha 😭

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