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Posted: 12 years ago
My dearest girls,

Do get off this thread at long last and make your way to my latest Jodha Akbar 147:Discordant expectations, at http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3878433&PID=99221916&#p99221916

I would request all of you to add these comments, and more if you feel like it, on that thread.

Shyamala (Aunty)
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Posted: 12 years ago
Shweta dear,

Do get off this thread at long last and make your way to my latest Jodha Akbar 147:Discordant expectations, at http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3878433&PID=99221916&#p99221916

I would request you to add these comments, and more if you feel like it, on that thread.

Shyamala Aunty


QUOTE=jshweta16]A very nice take Aunty! I was looking for someone to point out at the garbage we were blessed with yesterday but seems like the whole forum is ok with the episode and as I'm quite new here I don't find it right to vent out my disappointment in their posts! But I'm commenting here as I think even you are not happy with this whole track 😉.
Except Jalal's firm reply to Jodha that he did not force their marriage on her and it was her father who manipulated her everything else was in favor of heroin but the lady hardly finds anything wrong in her Amer Family's action so even if in coming time she falls for him she will not accept her father's fault at all! As you mentioned we can presume the good times are ahead but for whom ? and how ? Looking at their firm belief in repeating every used formula which brought them success I don't think we will get anything new here! Coming to Jalal, I bet he will soon give up on his so called plan of jalaofy Jodha as everytime he does so she accuses him as if he is a serial ra**st or a womanizer who always harass every woman his eyes laid on which is very much frustrating and embarrassing. But he is at fault also, why can't he remind her who she is talking to just like he did to Sukanya's in laws ? Even in Shivani-Hakim's case he should have firmly warned her that before doing anything she needs his permission just like he did when she was trying to leave his chamber without his consent. This guy clearly forgets his imperial ego when it comes to her while on the other hand she is the one who bullies him everytime with her nasty Rajvanshi pride.
Yesterday she was dying to tell him about Sharifuddin and even gatecrashed the bachelor party in an attempt to do so and look what she is doing today, as soon as her Amer Family arrived in Agra she is now not at all worried about the 'sankat' to his 'pran' and even Kanha and Ambe Maa got a day off! 😛
On a side note, Mah-Chuchak begum should have been present here while the marriage talks were going on. Even like you I was expecting her to oppose this marriage which actually never happened in history! I am joining your club of Shivani eloping with her bf idea 😆 but jokes apart where are all the protesters now ? They created fuss over the name Jodha and now when EK is showing this distorted and rubbish version of history and now no-one is bothered about this Shivani-Hakim track? Even the Royal House of Jaipur has kept quiet though Ekta is continuously portraying the Amer clan as greedy and taking advantage of their alliance with Mughals though in actual BD/Maan Singh were as loyal to the Mughals as they were to their motherland. If Mughals gave them mansabdari they too risked their lives serving them.
And after showing Mirza Hakim all goody-goody if they turn him negative over this Shivani matter then that is a disgusting and most pathetic idea and I soo want to throw some historical documents in their face.
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Posted: 12 years ago
Ekta's serials have to be watched keeping aside ones brains..
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Posted: 12 years ago
inconsistencies are abounding again shyamala..please what is your take on today's episode..our poor jallu is again standing in the katkhara where he has been proven guilty of leaving jodha outside the khema unattended..hmm..what say dear?
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Posted: 12 years ago
Mandy, this is just for you and my expanded chipmunk gang, for I am not feeling at all well. And what are you doing on this old, long abandoned thread? I am going to post it on my Shadows in Camelot thread as well.

Anyway, that whole khema scene was a farce. She wakes up and looks at him, and he goes on looking at her, and the next shot is of Adham Khan chewing out his failed minions! One has no idea what happened, whether he stood/sat there out in the open all night or not. It was ridiculous. Never again am I going to wear my fingers out on such nonsensical scenes.

Now, I am not going to bother about Jalal being pilloried. He is a big boy and can take care of himself. And even when I am fit, I never read more that 3/4 threads in the forum, which is good for one's nerves and general health!

As for the Jodha Bhajan Mandali, when their aaradhya herself does not seem to mind at all, judging from her rooh babbling in 2014 Hum aapse door kahan the, Shahenshah? Humne to is safar mein apne aap ko aapke atyant nikat paaya. Yahan tak ki humne aapko pa hi liya!, who are they to complain? Jab miyan biwi razi , to kya karenge biwi ke tarafdar?

Nor does Jodha (as distinct from her rooh looking on at that event from 450 years away) seem the least bit bothered about the andar baahar (she was nicely wrapped in blanket/shawl, by the way). On the contrary, she seems as chirpy as a skylark in spring, and her joy and contentment make her look all lit up from inside. No wonder that Mahaam notes that at such catty length!

When the Gang of Four arrives in Agra, not only does she wax eloquent with a long, happy speech, in which she does not forget to add, Shahenshan ki seva karne ka bhi avasar mila, as Jalal looks on happily and Hamida beams, but she stands there for a while after Hamida, Ruqaiya et al have left. She and Jalal look at each other, and only after he nods his head as if assenting to her leaving does she also nod her head and push off.

I find her always seeking his approval before doing anything these days - I had specifically mentioned this in my At long last, Camelot! post - very charming. It is NOT subservience, it is just a desire to please him by consulting him in advance.

Even before that, when he replies to Hamida that the trip had gone off very well, he is looking sideways at Jodha and she at him, and they both look as pleased as Punch.

Then look at the PR build up she gives Jalal, adding all sorts of hunars of which even I was unaware -saamanya aushadi ka gyan because he knew that swollen feet need to be fomented?! -And praja le liye praan bhi dene le liye tatpar? . And her claiming that she made many sharp remarks but he always replied in a way as not to hurt her feelings is a fib of major proportions! When does she say anything acidulated during the whole trip? And she tells Hamida Unhone to kisi bhi samasya to hamare nikat bhi aane nahin diya!

The girl is now besotted with her erstwhile ghrinot pati, that is all there is to it!

I loved her all thru the episode, and I am just waiting to see what she replies to Jalal's question in the precap. She cannot say both, for he is asking a comparative question. My guess is that she will blush and look down and say nothing.

Paridhi looks more than ever like the ambulant sunflower that I called her once. She is a sight for sore eyes - mine above all, seeing that they are very sore right now!😉

Tripti, my poppet, while I am about it, let me tell you that any woman, Rajvanshi, Mughal of any other race, always wants to do things personally for her husband and her children. See how Hamida is now talking of knitting something for her hoped for grandson! I am sure Salima would have cooked something in an trice for Jalal or for his Khan Baba. And all aristocratic ladies did fine embroidery and tapestry, though not common sewing. There was nothing demeaning about it.

So this cultural difference explanation does not really hold water.

And let me tell you, ALL women in those days, including Mughal princesses, were subservient to their husbands. In fact, because of the provision that their husband could give them a talaq without having to justify it, whereas a Hindu wife could not be divorced by her husband, the Mughal wife was more at a disadvantage and less secure than her Rajvanshi counterpart.

Ruqaiya is a lazy, pampered brat, that is all, which is more Hamida's fault,seeing that she brought her up from the age of 6, than her own. She should never have been allowed to become so self-centred. arrogant and selfish. And badly behaved to all but Jalal. If she had been straightened out early on - and of course I am talking here of the onscreen Ruqaiya, not the historical one - she would have been ok. Her positive traits - and she has some - would have been enhanced and the rough edges smoothened.

But I felt that the Mughal baandi deserved that swift kick for such impertinent folly. It was a very stagey and unconvincing spiel all told. How on earth would a servant maid talk like that to the Malika--e-Khaas?

Lord, see how much I have typed! I have to stop now. I hope I can come back soon, but for now, my eyes are not in good shape. I am banking on all your very sweet good wishes to make me get better by the time I go back to the doctor on Thursday, and fully back to normal in another week.

Love to you all - Mandy, Adiana, Ash, Ariel, Gayatri, Neena, and above all to my very own chipmunks (Bobby, you are now a member, right?). 🤗

Remember that you have all promised to be good while I am away. Don't quarrel with me because I have replied only to Mandy's post, she is senior to you kids, and in any case this is for all of you!

Shyamala (Aunty)


Originally posted by: mandyg

inconsistencies are abounding again shyamala..please what is your take on today's episode..our poor jallu is again standing in the katkhara where he has been proven guilty of leaving jodha outside the khema unattended..hmm..what say dear?

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