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Posted: 7 years ago
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I guess stabbing alexander is before marriage not after, if i m right then Macedonian were against accepting d Persian culture by alexander
Regarding wise wife , none of alexander's wife gain this title

Stateira 2 was expecting but Olympias dint thought of her

We all read through theories available

As we all dont know anyone personally
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

I guess stabbing alexander is before marriage not after, if i m right then Macedonian were against accepting d Persian culture by alexander

Regarding wise wife , none of alexander's wife gain this title

Stateira 2 was expecting but Olympias dint thought of her

We all read through theories available

As we all dont know anyone personally


Yes before the marriage...curious thing is that only macedonian sources wrote about it...all the filth about her is in Greek sources...
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Posted: 7 years ago
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In those days, 18-19 year olds were not little girls. They were quite grown up, married, often had children and managed families. And if you love someone, you take care of him, no matter what you age. That is called love. And if she could do nothing to help him in his stress and strain, what kind of relationship was that anyway?

All that Roxanne did was to secure undeserved high positions for her near and dear ones, which of course made the Macedonians hate her even more, and alienate them even more from Alexander.

Olympias probably detested the Persians lock, stock and barrel,and liked Roxanne because she was like herself, and was going to give her a grandchild. That should be more than enough!

Shyamala Cowsik

Originally posted by: luckySnow

He was 27 and she was 18 or 19 when they married...And Alexander was emperor of 10000 miles long landscape...so he was in stress...but what can 18-19 years old can do here...she was a little girl not mature one...there has to be a reason for Olympia liking her and detesting Barsine and other one...😊


Originally posted by: sashashyam

Never mind, Deepika, we do not have to agree all the time. I detest this Roxanne, and I wish I could get rid of her, that is all.

As for Alexander's bad luck, it had been gathering strength over the last 4 years of his life. After he married Roxanne, almost everyone in his close entourage bar Olympias, who was in any case far away, hated her and got alienated from Alexander because of his obession with her. That is a fact. All the battles he fought after he married her were only pyrrhic victories.

It is true,as Inlieu has said, that he was burning himself out. He also drank more and more, and was becoming paranoid about even his closest associates, many of him he had executed, thus worsening the alienation from his Macedonian base.

A wise and supportive wife, whom he loved to the point of obsession, should have been able to do something to curb these highly negative tendencies. What is the point in loving a man, as it is said that she did, if you do not try to keep him from doing too much and wrecking himself? A good wife is supposed to be a wise counsellor as well. I have never heard or read that Roxanne was such a wife.

She just took all that he had to offer after she had finished with trying to stab him, that is all. Why should she not have to prove her love? If you are going to be put on a pedestal as a mohabbat ki moorat, there had better be something you do to show that you deserve it. All the great romantic heroines did that. This woman was just a parasite, with no birth and no claims to any excellence except thar she was supposed to be very beautiful, which the girl playing her most definitely is not.

Barsine and Parypatis had birth and he married them, one each from each of the branches of the royal Achaemenid dynasty, because he wanted to get legitimacy as the new King of Kings. They both brought him that legitimacy that he craved. Roxanne brought him nothing,

Now kindly don't write another long note praising Roxanne. I have had enough of her. You are quite free to adore her as much as you like, but don't expect me to share it. I am already in a bad mood about this abysmal show and I don't want to make it worse!😉

Shyamala Di



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Posted: 7 years ago
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Its ok di i respect ur POV, my post was not 4 actress playing roxxane.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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First of all, Deepika, we are not sure that Barsine was expecting. And then, Olympias probably hated all the Persians per se.

If Roxanne is to be cut so much slack, she should have deserved that indulgence. If she was not able to help Alexander in his stress and excessive drinking, that only means that she was not up to looking after her huband. That the other two wives did not qualify either means nothing, Dil ki rani to yahi thi na?

All that happened after she married him was that Alexander appointed her incompetent near and dear ones in high positions they did not deserve, thus making the Macedonian generals detest her even more - for they naturally thought she had got these appointments made - and alienating them even more from Alexander.

Oh yes, Macedonians were against his adopting Persian customs and dress, and on some points, like the pair poshi, he had to backtrack. But that has nothing to do with his wanting the legitimacy he got by marrying Barsine and Parypatis.Nor did the friction over the Persianisation he attempted make the Macedonians like Roxanne any better.

No, one was not there.But one can read contemporary writers, and those who wrote a couple of centuries later, basing themselves on sources from the period of Alexander. They are now available in English translations.

And this is positively my LAST word on this subject.

Shyamala Di

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

I guess stabbing alexander is before marriage not after, if i m right then Macedonian were against accepting d Persian culture by alexander

Regarding wise wife , none of alexander's wife gain this title

Stateira 2 was expecting but Olympias dint thought of her

We all read through theories available

As we all dont know anyone personally

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