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Posted: 13 years ago
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Awesome post Sunheri

Why I do agree to some degree with you post I would like to say Gulabiya isn't jealous of Sugni.

Gulabiya has been wary of TM ever since he confess his love for Sugni. I've come to a conclusion that no matter what TVS does it will never be satisfactory to Gulabiya is like she's just looking for an opportunity to say I told you so and RM will play into suspicion.

As you have outline every doubt and challenge Gulabiya has had with TVS has fulfilled. I'm not saying as a mother Gulabiya shouldn't do all she can to protect her child is her right but there is a decorum in everything that one must follow and Gulabiya isn't exercising that etiquette. Gulabiya tactics is coming off harsh and rude to me cause even though Vik is a Thakur he's still treat his future MIL with a lot of respect which I feel Gulabiya doesn't do at all.

I don't hold these things against G cause I understand Sugni is her life and like all loving parents you rather face the wrath of life then have your child go through it. Unfortunately parent's cant's protect there children from trials and tribulations of life. Sugni needs to face harsh reality so she can know what exactly she's fighting for in life. Sugni needs to knows in life prince charming may not be like she imagine. Also no matter how much we see someone as a messiah he just a regular human being, who will lie, cheat, manipulate for his own selfish reason cause they want to possess you or they love you and will do anything not to lose you.

Life isn't B & W there are shades of grey ironically when you mix B & W the color is grey.

Gulabiya said she doesn't doubt Vik love for Sugni but she's scare and with good reason, who knows what storm awaits in RM or if the wedding will even happen. So let's have some patience with G cause mother intuition is a very powerful force that can't be ignore.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hi Everyone!

While I respect everyone's views, @Sunheri, I agree with you 100%. Gulabiya point of views are baseless, and she does come across a bit jealous or something. She cannot compare her experiences with Sugni, because she was with a married man. Vikram has no wife, and I truly believe he loves Sugni. He has definitely been a man of his word so far, so I can't see wrong in him.

I was also thinking, that this child maybe Ad's step-sister...😆...so funny you said it too. I am just glad it is not another woman..😆
I really hope Sugni stands by her love, no matter what. I really love this pair and I hope the cvs don't disappoint me. This show is a fantastic idea to work with and I hope they think carefully when writing for the future.

I really love this show so far, I rush home everyday to watch it.😆

Just my two cents.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Gulabiya is being over-protective. Not jealous. Definitely not like what sugni said today - humari khusi meing shamil ho.. which mother wouldn't want to?

She just wants Sugni to have the best. What is the use of Sugni becoming a thakurain when she would be treated like a bedni (just in a different sense)?

As far as tiff with Jiji is concerned - i can clearly see that Jiji manipulated Gulabiya into speaking rudely and then changed colors and spoke as tho Gulabiya hurt her. It may be that Thakurs can talk and Bednis have to listen, but hey, if welook at the conversation as between a mother and mother-in-law, we can clearly see Gulabiya's point of view.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Good that u made this post ...I agree to certain extent but not that she is J of her own daughter .
No way ..she love her daughter like anything .
What makes me wonder is when JTS and other thakur pointed sugini ..she kept quite . She stood for sugini when her family said to sugini about sar dhakahi ..but not every time . What makes me wonder is what she has thought about her daughter future ..whom she want to get marry or what she has expecation from sugini except sugini dream ..how she is going to ful fill sugini dream of living good life ( marriage being part of it ) .
she is always been question TM ..once she didn't bother to pull her chappals ..if it is JTS ..what she could have done ??
Reva is making her nuts ..understood , he might have past but does sugini will get best man in the world who is like god ...i guess no ..if we see the reality getting man for sugini can be any of us ..human who might be good & bad in something .
Against i really want to know if gulibiya is trying to protect sugini then what man she is going to find for her ..who would be better than TVS ??& how ??
It is easy to question & point some one when given respect from person but the same if it there is people like JTS & thankrian ..they dont stand & keep quite
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Posted: 13 years ago
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We need to understand gulabiya's social condition. She was born a Bedni, had dreams, but had to compromise at every step in life for family. Bedni's life is all she knows. But she is happy to help Sugni achieve her dreams.

She even agreed for a second Sardhakai with a man who is known to hurt women for a very meager amount. She spent night with TJS for a few rupees. She always was ready to go to Rai even though she was ill. She did ALL this just so that Sugni doesnt get pressurized to get into Rai and Sardhakai. Again and again, she was used and hurt by thakurs.

In such a situation, Sugni getting proposed by TVS who is a Thakur itself is a shocking change for Gulabiya. She desperately wants to believe that TVS is a real gentleman (the scene when Sugni calls her to tell that TVS fought for her in front of other thakurs and declared a date), but she repeatedly sees TVS going into that old reva haveli and lie about it. So, gulabiya becomes suspicious and also over-protective of Sugni.. I think its pretty natural for anyone in her shoes to feel what she is feeling.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I see a very protective mother who is trying to save her daughter being hurt. If you see the social conditions there even if both TVS and Sugni want to go ahead its the society which wont let them live in peace and put in lot of hurdles and G knows all this as she has born here and seen so much life and the Thakurs as they have a facility and advantage which they would not want to forgo, as if one such case happens it may lead to more. If Bednis have children they are finally the illegitimate children of Thakurs but still they dont want this to happen.
I feel G is more concerned about Sugni and she is practical and far sighted not swept away by this marriage yet to take place.


Had TVS not lied and said that he went ti Reva for some work then she would have forgotten the whole thing but when she saw him and he said he did not go that raised her suspicions that some thing is fishy and wrong so she is investigating.

TJS is father of Sugni and has probably done her sardhakayi so again going to him for some Rs was what she in her situation could think of and the rest she is doing for her greedy and worthless lazy brothers and their family
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I too sometime feel tht gulabo is going out of line when it comes to sugvi's relationship. she is never satisfied no matter how genuine vikram is n sugni loves him. and now the reva manjil thing has made her even more suspicious bout the relationship. Her concern is understandable but its sometimes close to over-reacting. I feel vicky too didn't like his MIL suspecting him all the time n now he is kinda disturbd bout it.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sunheri

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I agree with you that she is a victim of circumstances but here TVS has sent shagun for marrying sugni and has said he will marry her !!! Of course Vikram's sister is not going to accept "Sugni" a bedni to be TVS wife...It might take her some time to accept that reality ...
Meanwhile as gulabiya said to TVS that lot of people will talk and be rude and then will he stand up against all of them and still marry Sugni...he is keeping his word...whatever gulabiys wants he is fulfilling that !!!!
The same applies to her ...her daughter's dream is to get married ...so not only the thakur is in love with her but is willing to fight for Sugni ...I dont understand what is she protecting Sugni from ??? nobody is seen the future ..even thaukarins had to see their husbands go sleep with bednis and feel the hurt ( nobody likes to share their husbands) ...Sugni wont even have to go through that ( since TVS is shown to be in love with her)
TVS might have secrets which he does not reveal as he fears losing sugni ...what do u think happens in arrange marriages ...do you think propective girs/guys tell their past ...not really !!!!!!
Do you realize its very controversial marriage??
Mother's look for childrens happiness !!! ...and she should have know that the sister is not going to be nice to her ...but for daughter's sake ...she could have comprised a bit
Because TVS sister doesnt want this marriage ..she is always going to oppose it...does gulabiya need to worry abt what the sister is saying or what TVS and sugni wants!!!
And which mother would tell her daughter that she is getting blinded by TVS and money !!!! Really ...??
Sugni has been always shown to read people better than her. She understands when she is being exploited and when someone treats her with respect...she is seeing what TVS is going through for her love ...she was one who stopped the gulabiya's sardhaki ...she is the one who tells mama the truth on their faces !!!!! Just bcas TJS has not treated gulabiya well, she cannot use insecurities on TVS!!!!

I have absolutely no doubt that VT loves Sugni.Coz Sugni is a kind of gal man usually falls in love . If he really loves Sugni I'm sure he'll explain what is he hiding to her and her Mom. Coz a true lover and a good Damad ...it is his holly duty. As love is based on trust...where nothing should be hidden or misinterpreted.

Gulabya is working exactly what mothers do. Now is this right or wrong ...kids can judge. But its not at all out of mother's common nature.

About VT.Well!What is he is written by the PH. Not me nor you or ...VT is not a real character like MK Gandhi too. Just a character created by CVs. They are trying to build up something very strong ,most probably completely unique character. I like Varun's acting...and hez a damn good actor. I'm absolutely not a person who believes Hero woh hoti hai jo Heroineko patatey hai or shadi karte hai.Even I love to watch Good Anti Hero than those typical Ramavatar type chipkoo Heroes...So looking forward for what twist CVs have. Meanwhile enjoying the drama and suspense the PH has created. Lagta hai it'll be a grrr8 serial. All the best to Mrinal Jha. She always makes me a satisfied viewer.😉
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Posted: 13 years ago
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From what I have been reading on the forum and the way serial is moving, the marriage will not take place but there will be sardhakai of sugni by TVS.
Marriage will not take place under these circumstances because of G's say over -protectiveness( which I dont understand, but agree jealous was extreme word), in first case its justified...
1. Either RM stores the suspense that his wife is still alive ...which then means marriage cannot take place and sinc G was in a hurry to have TVS confirm the date of marriage, he probably just went ahead with it ( whch is not right) and then he will have to do sardhakai.
2. I think G will show Sugni the RM which will create doubts in her mind about TVS sincerity and its possibility marriage might not happen. I havent seen any indication where TVS will back out tll now...but due to trust issues Sugni might not be sure.
So in the first case, I can understand then only way for them to be together now would be then sardhakai
Or in the seond case , maybe eventually Sugni will realize that TVS did love her and will let TVS do her sardhakai ?
I am just wondering what would be circumstances that TVS ( who does not like sardhakai) will do Sugni's sardhakai. Sugni who is totally against sardhakai and if her trust is broken with TVS, how will she allow for sardhakai from TVS...
If Sugnis sardhakai to TVS happens, is that better then marriage to TVS ? Will G agree to that and how? She is over-protective when TVS has sent sagun for her daughter and has doubts about him and is really questioning her daughter. How would she agree to her sardhakai?
If Sugni backs out on marriage to TVS due to RM (mother's over -protectiveness) , then do you think she will find someone in village to marry her ? Will her Mama's let her marry ordinary guy from village who has no money ? or do you think another Thakur will fall for her...unless CV's are making ground for Adi/Sugni's pair.
Dont get me wrong I was doubtful of TVS when he took sugni to old school to meet her alone(actually that was very cheap gesture), he evaded questions of marriage and finally said at the right time he will get married. I was thinking TVS was not sincere and G was right in questioning.
And what happens to Sugn's dream of "getting married"...
So lets watch and see how drama unfolds...I ove TVS-Sugni's pair and so want them together.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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it s jus a mother's genuine concern

tht even if diff comes her way a mother ll never want her daughter to face any diff and if the child gets hurt it is the mom who suffers the most

these emotions are act wel portrayed in this serial so i was able to understand G concern on the RM

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