Originally posted by: Kalapi
Bee, I find Manav extremely ineffectual as a Dad and his blaming Savita for kids missing out on their mother totally disgusting. Manav knew that the kids hated their mother. Surely they didn't hate Archana because it was the most fashionable thing to do or they knew that if they hated her, everyone could be happy.
The point to remember here is that the kids were taken away from Archana when they were 1+yrs old, so they were like mud that could have been molded anyway one liked). Now, to me they hated her because of 2 things
One, because the twins missed their Mom growing up.
Secondly, because someone (Savita) fed them negativity towards their mother.
Thirdly, they saw growing up that Manav's longing for his wife. This probably re-enforced their dislike.
Now, Manav knew that the kids hated them, remember how the twins talked about Archana in Canada and I think they did show Manav in the picture too.
So, Manav knew the kids hated Archana growing up, (extrapolation here is that, such deep hatred can't happen overnight). And Manav in spite of his great love for Archana, chose not to stop them and tell them otherwise. He didn't share a good memory of his great love with their bio kids nor prevented them from badmouthing her. The twins were just babies that were easily molded into whatever he want them to be, especially regarding how they feel for their Mom. But he chose to support the negativity towards their mom by not stopping them being influenced, I could agree that Manav were not to be blamed, if we were talking about Sachu here (since Sachu was at least older and witnessed some of the things at happened and could form his own opinions), but the twins were too young to remember anything.
So, I find Manav an ineffectual Dad, if he just chose to listen to the bad things said about his great love and didn't do anything about it. The way I see it, even if Archana was the worst mother on the face of earth, Manav, the Dad, could have been instrumental in putting some neutral thoughts in their head. He did nothing. If I see my kid badmouthing someone else, I stop him immediately. At least this is my POV, that Manav can blame his Savita all he wants of the ill feelings the twins had for Archana, but he was at a greater fault for doing not a thing to dispel such negativities. Especially, this becomes even worst, when we consider the fact that Savita never pretended to like Archana as a DIL and Manav knew it very well. He couldn't stop his mother from hating Archana, but surely, he could have stopped the twin. So, I blame Manav 100% in this, at least how I see it. My question to you, what could you have done, if you were Manav?
Bee Quote:>>>>
I agree to all the point you stated above about what caused the separation and led to divorce. But my only point of discussion was
"3. Manav actively never (I guess ) tried neutralizing what Savita was feeding the kids"
I still do not think that is what had happened. And since they did not show us that happening, we have to infer what we say from other related things and my inference is that - whenever Savita fed ill about Archana to the kids, it never might have happened in front of him.
So, each of us can take it however we want and EK and her CVs are never going to clarify that to us.