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Jaishankar

@Jaishankar

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Posted: 13 years ago

#141

Originally posted by: jdronamraju
I have been wanting to call her the wicked step mother for a while (the way she treats Purvi),and many more that cant be really used in a public forum :)..but I thought i would be bombarded by ARmaan fans...😃..so refrained myself and settled with QM.
Yeah, but notice one thing, they are all ARVI fans...LOL..

You bet Jyoti 😊.you would be bombarded by us..We Arman fans like Arvi and are their fans but we could not come up with names for Arjun when he was not opening his mouth and kept quiet before the truth session..Even though Archu is a emotional fool,we all still love her for the human being she is. so yes it was nice of you to keep it restricted to QM 😊 otherwise guess you would be bombarded by many folks for sure 😆 We never bashed him ,as Archu is being bashed right now.Now Manav added in the list with this Dahi aandi scenario.I dont want go on into it as this entire scenario is to promote the movie again. Manav being main lead of the show is a fact and its up to the dumb head CV's how will they show this scenario. I have no expectations from CV's to show anything logical so I will leave it.But good thing for me was Manav gave 200 RS for Arjun to complete the challenge.

Yes Archu's challenge is a fiasco but for Archu Money was never the motive ,it was the trust.Its a simple fact that how will any mother trust a person who says he loves her other daughter. DK has pushed off to Australia and asked Arjun to keep shut till he comes and after engagement gets over,eventually so late they come n say it. So what is expected of Archu ,to open her arms and accept Arjun as her damaad ? ...That would have been a farce.Arjun needed to prove that he is not 2 timing and he is indeed a good person which he is doing .Deep inside Archu knows it but she cant express out coz of Ovi but @ the same time it does not mean she does not Love Purvi. Hell she is so strict with Arjun coz she is so afraid for her Purvi that she gets her right man. She loves Purvi a lot and being strict over Purvi does not mean she loves her less or gives Ovi more importance. Archu is a emotional fool and hence all her decisions are almost foolish,taken from heart without using her brains.That is how she is but that does not mean she is some evil lady or something. Just coz she is strict with Arvi now does not mean she is evil woman. Purvi has her upbringing by Archu. Purvi is Archu's shadow .All the good things in Purvi is instilled coz of Archu. So I firmly believe Archu cant be some evil lady who is hell bent on separating lovers. Once Archu accepts Arjun ,folks will see the change how much she respects n loves Arvi. Archu is a emotional fool but she does not know to hate people. Hell when she cannot hate Savita for what all she has done,how will she even think of hating Arjun. She is angry with Arjun. Anger is different from hate. In anger also there is love but in hate there isnt and that is the difference for Archu. She initially was pissed with Arjun but now slowly she has changed and for Purvi she is very much concerned with her life as she wants nothing happen to her in any sense especially after Purvi's first engagement broke.She will for sure accept Arjun very soon.And this Arjun help to Churan will be the key .As mentioned its not the money that will end this challenge ,its going to be that Arjun's goodness to help Churan that will end this challenge fiasco.

Sulo was stupid today in asking whom will Archu choose for Arjun. Archu has no right to choose for Arjun ,she can do that for Purvi and not Arjun..Sulo's dialogue was ridiculous to say the least.

Sulo is trying to make Archu as someone who is going to choose between her daughters. Ovi does not come into the picture.She is on the verge of moving on in life.Sulo for some weird reason had ask this stupid q to Archu. She needs to think before trying to ask such ridiculous q's.

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Jaishankar

@Jaishankar

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#142

Originally posted by: Jaishankar

You bet Jyoti 😊.you would be bombarded by us..We Arman fans like Arvi and are their fans but we could not come up with names for Arjun when he was not opening his mouth and kept quiet before the truth session..Even though Archu is a emotional fool,we all still love her for the human being she is. so yes it was nice of you to keep it restricted to QM 😊 otherwise guess you would be bombarded by many folks for sure 😆 We never bashed him ,as Archu is being bashed right now.Now Manav added in the list with this Dahi aandi scenario.I dont want go on into it as this entire scenario is to promote the movie again. Manav being main lead of the show is a fact and its up to the dumb head CV's how will they show this scenario. I have no expectations from CV's to show anything logical so I will leave it.But good thing for me was Manav gave 200 RS for Arjun to complete the challenge.Irony of the situation I guess.
Yes Archu's challenge is a fiasco but for Archu Money was never the motive ,it was the trust.Its a simple fact that how will any mother trust a person who says he loves her other daughter. DK has pushed off to Australia and asked Arjun to keep shut till he comes and after engagement gets over,eventually so late they come n say it. So what is expected of Archu ,to open her arms and accept Arjun as her damaad ? ...That would have been a farce.Arjun needed to prove that he is not 2 timing and he is indeed a good person which he is doing .Deep inside Archu knows it but she cant express out coz of Ovi but @ the same time it does not mean she does not Love Purvi. Hell she is so strict with Arjun coz she is so afraid for her Purvi that she gets her right man. She loves Purvi a lot and being strict over Purvi does not mean she loves her less or gives Ovi more importance. Archu is a emotional fool and hence all her decisions are almost foolish,taken from heart without using her brains.That is how she is but that does not mean she is some evil lady or something. Just coz she is strict with Arvi now does not mean she is evil woman. Purvi has her upbringing by Archu. Purvi is Archu's shadow .All the good things in Purvi is instilled coz of Archu. So I firmly believe Archu cant be some evil lady who is hell bent on separating lovers. Once Archu accepts Arjun ,folks will see the change how much she respects n loves Arvi. Archu is a emotional fool but she does not know to hate people. Hell when she cannot hate Savita for what all she has done,how will she even think of hating Arjun. She is angry with Arjun. Anger is different from hate. In anger also there is love but in hate there isnt and that is the difference for Archu. She initially was pissed with Arjun but now slowly she has changed and for Purvi she is very much concerned with her life as she wants nothing happen to her in any sense especially after Purvi's first engagement broke.She will for sure accept Arjun very soon.And this Arjun help to Churan will be the key .As mentioned its not the money that will end this challenge ,its going to be that Arjun's goodness to help Churan that will end this challenge fiasco.

Sulo was stupid today in asking whom will Archu choose for Arjun. Archu has no right to choose for Arjun ,she can do that for Purvi and not Arjun..Sulo's dialogue was ridiculous to say the least.
Sulo is trying to make Archu as someone who is going to choose between her daughters. Ovi does not come into the picture.She is on the verge of moving on in life.Sulo for some weird reason had ask this stupid q to Archu. She needs to think before trying to ask such ridiculous q's.

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jdronamraju

@jdronamraju

Voyager

Posted: 13 years ago

#143

Jai,

You know it is not that Archana had this condition to prove Arjun's love that upset us, it is rather the way she attacked Arjun with such venom that pissed us off. sorry for the language, but that explains the best. And the way she behaved with Purvi after was just not acceptable. Granted she has the right to put conditions on Arjun as a mother, but as a mother , we expect her to treat Purvi differently. Her demands from ARjun are fine. But, i expected her to talk to Purvi, ask her how she felt. Till now, she hasnt done it. All she has done is give out rules and pass out dikhats to Purvi. Puriv actually visiblycowers from Archana when she gets those looks from her. This is not how a loving mother behaves. She has not even recalled how Purvi reacted post enagement, and her depression till now. Inspite of her anger, would a loving mother who claims a bond so strong with Purvi, behave like that? Even if she questions Arjun's love, why is she questioning Purvi's love? or rather, not try to understand her love? This is just not acceptable to us.

So,let us agree to disagree on this..

I promise, I will retract the name once she accepts Arjun ...😃...i tried to stick to Archana Aunty in between, but somehow it didnt go with how we felt... Sorry, but for now I stand firm on this ..😊..

Anyway, all this is in jest... so dont take it seriously..

Oh yes, Sulo's dialogue was stupid to the core..Arjun is not a gift horse to be passed around between Ovi and Purvi. He has a opinion of his own. Another of those CV's brainless ideas..

Jyothi

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Jaishankar

@Jaishankar

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#144

Originally posted by: jdronamraju
Jai,

You know it is not that Archana had this condition to prove Arjun's love that upset us, it is rather the way she attacked Arjun with such venom that pissed us off. sorry for the language, but that explains the best. And the way she behaved with Purvi after was just not acceptable. Granted she has the right to put conditions on Arjun as a mother, but as a mother , we expect her to treat Purvi differently. Her demands from ARjun are fine. But, i expected her to talk to Purvi, ask her how she felt. Till now, she hasnt done it. All she has done is give out rules and pass out dikhats to Purvi. Puriv actually visiblycowers from Archana when she gets those looks from her. This is not how a loving mother behaves. She has not even recalled how Purvi reacted post enagement, and her depression till now. Inspite of her anger, would a loving mother who claims a bond so strong with Purvi, behave like that? Even if she questions Arjun's love, why is she questioning Purvi's love? or rather, not try to understand her love? This is just not acceptable to us.

So,let us agree to disagree on this..

I promise, I will retract the name once she accepts Arjun ...😃...i tried to stick to Archana Aunty in between, but somehow it didnt go with how we felt... Sorry, but for now I stand firm on this ..😊..

Anyway, all this is in jest... so dont take it seriously..

Oh yes, Sulo's dialogue was stupid to the core..Arjun is not a gift horse to be passed around between Ovi and Purvi. He has a opinion of his own. Another of those CV's brainless ideas..

Jyothi

Sure Jyothi,dont worry I can never take it seriously..Its good to have healthy discussions..And yes I agree to disagree dear 😊...To clarify she attacked Arjun with venom ,as any angry parent would do and rightly she did. You cannot get away for doing engagement with a girl and later come n open n say you are love with other..How can anyone trust such a person..Archu was right as any angry parent would be but this challenge was a fiasco. How can Archu talk to Purvi when she herself is bombarded so much with D's. She is so held up with her own marriage life issue that she is totally lost herself. Hence I was against this challenge fiasco. Dumb head CV's made Archu give this challenge instead of showing Archu asking the reasoning behind the mess..Hence I said I have no expectations from CV's.

Good to hear you will mellow down on Archu soon though 😊

She has never questioned Purvi's love.Its other way around it is whether "Arjun is good enough for Purvi"..Thats the subtle difference here.She hell cares about Purvi and loves her a lot.She has said that many times Purvi is her life but the props with ARchu is her decision making.Right from start of the show Archu's decision making has created so many props for her and her being a emotional fool ,thinking from heart instead of her brain always leads her down spiral.

Purvi also kept quiet earlier coz she saw how much her Aai's issues were on her head.Archu was also angry with Purvi for keeping quiet as she defended her so badly in D's party too. IT has been always Archu who has defended Purvi throughout.She wont allow anyone even her other 2 daughters to point fingers on Purvi..That love no one can take away from Archu.When truth came out Archu was lost and her decisions after that has been a fiasco in short as always she thinking from heart creating the mess.But Archu is never a evil person as she does not know how to be evil,she is one of those categories who will sacrifice senselessly everything even for her enemies happiness..So I believe she loves Purvi a lot n very soon accept Arvi.

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jdronamraju

@jdronamraju

Voyager

Posted: 13 years ago

#145

I hope so too, Jai. Hope so.. Let us see how this all gets sorted out.
BTW, I am enjoying our discussions very much. It is nice to pary with someone with opposite views too :)

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Jaishankar

@Jaishankar

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#146

Originally posted by: jdronamraju
I hope so too, Jai. Hope so.. Let us see how this all gets sorted out.
BTW, I am enjoying our discussions very much. It is nice to pary with someone with opposite views too :)

Yup Jyothi thats the wonderful part of this forum I guess...Wonderful to make new friends like you and have such wonderful discussions..Its wonderful to be part of such amazing discussions.😉

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soapwatcher1

@soapwatcher1

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Posted: 13 years ago

#147

Jai, sorry to jump into your conversation with Jyothi but how long will Archu hide behind her righteous sprit of standing up for what is her version of right or how much longer are we to stomach her holier than thou attitude? My patience is kind of wearing thin on this, yes, she is the protagonist and these are her character flaws - silence and her rigid staunch on what she believes is right. She has always been on the straight path to disaster with these traits and looks like it is not going to change anytime soon. Sympathy has turned to pity and now it is fast turning to impatience with the blinders she constantly seems to don. Mistress of her destiny she is not, alas!!

Dear Jai, sorry not trying to pick a bone but just voicing my frustration with her.

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Jaishankar

@Jaishankar

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#148

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1
Jai, sorry to jump into your conversation with Jyothi but how long will Archu hide behind her righteous sprit of standing up for what is her version of right or how much longer are we to stomach her holier than thou attitude? My patience is kind of wearing thin on this, yes, she is the protagonist and these are her character flaws - silence and her rigid staunch on what she believes is right. She has always been on the straight path to disaster with these traits and looks like it is not going to change anytime soon. Sympathy has turned to pity and now it is fast turning to impatience with the blinders she constantly seems to don. Mistress of her destiny she is not, alas!!

Dear Jai, sorry not trying to pick a bone but just voicing my frustration with her.

hahah Jahnvi dear you can never make anyone angry re and you can always bud in to the discussion re..you are a sweet heart yourself.. dont worry 😊..

Yup re,thats what I also said right from show started Archu's decision making has got her only one result - disaster..My point was ,she is a emotional fool and makes decisions by heart and never thinks which is her character traits unfortunately but it does not mean she is showing a step mother like behavior to Purvi or being too mean to Arjun. These 2 are two different aspects. Her angry over Arjun is understandable as any parent will be for the mess created and for Purvi she stands by her all the time and Purvi is her life. Having said that ,this entire Challenge scenario was a big farce (being saying that right from the start). So far till now Archu never knows the actual truth ,which is baffling in the entire scenario. Instead of showing Archu asking for the reasoning of the mess,it was shown that she was throwing a challenge to Arjun.I can never understand CV's and their brilliance.

This whole challenge fiasco was I guess done to strengthen the bond fo Arvi but in the process they made Archu look totally clueless n senseless. I have no expectations from CV's. IF something good happens,its bonus I guess. Even with all her flaws Archu is a person who will still wish only good for even her enemies. Based on her traits as a person she is ,I mentioned re that she can never differentiate between her children and can never be termed evil,emotional fool n senseless sacrifice are her character traits that will be present in her forever.

Archu's characterization has turned into a puzzle for me (thanks to the CV's) to understand but based on the person she is,she is bound to accept Arjun soon n support Arvi soon.

One person I am totally pissed/confused is Sulo. If all others forget also,she will be the first person to keep reminding Archu to choose between Purvi /Ovi which is total non-sense. No one can choose for Arjun,his dad is there for him.Sulo is brain dead..

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soapwatcher1

@soapwatcher1

Rocker

Posted: 13 years ago

#149

Jai, that is too sweet, thank you, deep bow :)

I don't think Archu is capable of ever siding with evil. I don't doubt she loves Purvi and Sulo's comment today was crazy. In fact, if push comes to shove, Archana will always choose Purvi over Ovi, more than mamtha and the act of giving birth, association, habit, nurturing all have a powerful part to play and Archana has these bonds with Purvi, not Ovi. She has been dazzled by the glamor of her two Canada returned daughters, wants to curry favor and prove to them that she is not biased, she really truly loves them, she is fair and will uphold their rights come what may. With this faulty but somewhat natural feeling, she started off on that tirade at Arjun, ended up elsewhere by going off on a tangent about him being incapable of earning his own living and the 10K challenge. Brainless, senseless, unfair to Purvi because in trying to act fair to her two natural daughters, Archana bent over backwards the wrong and opposite way so as to make it unfair to Purvi. Purvi, on the other hand, has no doubt in her mind about her mother's feelings towards her (except for that one instance after the engagement party when the girl was overwhelmed by news of new relations and the jilting), she is confident her mother loves her and it is that belief in her aai's love that makes her go against Archana's express wishes not to meet Arjun. Purvi knows her mother loves her enough to understand and forgive her even if she errs. All this of course, does not make a 45 to 50 year old's confusion any less palatable or easier to bear for us viewers.

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Ashlaika

@Ashlaika

Rocker

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Posted: 13 years ago

#150

I was kinda disappointed that Purvi didnt say "I love u too" in today's episode when he said it over the phone... it would have been something for Arjun to remember in the trying times ahead. As im sure there will be trying times :(.

Soapwatcher1... I hope u caught up and u saw the episode where she bandaged his hand after his fall while practicing for the dahi handi. Arjun and Purvi's love, and do i dare add PASSION, was so great in that scene that it caused many comments for RD and Asha as well :-). Really heartfelt, passionate scene :-).

Jai, I see with what ure saying and most of it I can understand and even agree with. I recall how Archu used to take trash talk from the then pregnant Sharvani and put up with it, all because of the unborn child and her love for the D-family, mainly Savita. But, i guess situations and circumstances make us like or dislike a person and the same can be said for Archana. Remember when Archu was trying to do the "RIGHT" thing with Maduri and Varun... but as a sister... it was hurtful. I would also feel betrayed if I were Vaishu. Don't get me wrong, I used to love Archu and dislike Vaishu alot (esp when Vaishu thought Dharmesh was the best thing since slice bread and insult Archu and Manav at every oppotunity). But, do u honestly ever think Tej would support a stranger over her own sister, Ovi? NO! She makes VERY foolish decisions and can be such a doormat with the D-Family. Yet, it's amazing how she is strong with everyone else and feels she knows what is right, yet she doesnt apply the same thoughts and logic to herself. Anyway... all this long, drawn out talk and example was just to say, that, its not that we dislike Archu... but this particular situation does not endear her to most ppl. It wasnt the trust factor that she lacks with Arjun (he deserves to prove his love after the whole Ovi fiasco), but its the WAY in which it was done and the way she persists in thinking the worse.

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