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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear Janhvi,

I am afraid I do not agree with this, though it is a nice bit of reasoning. It is rather like a college debate, when you argue against the proposition!

The fact is that I was shocked when Archana came out with her speech at Punni's saakarpuda. It was awful, and she was a total fool if she thought that by doing so, she would gain Sachin's gratitude and affection. In any case, Sachin too would be far away in Canada, so what use would his gratitude and/or affecion be to Archana, still stuck here in India? It was obviously as much better decision to risk a throw of the dice, go to Canada with Manav, who was hardly likely to ask her if he did not love her still and want her with him, and try and win over her daughters.Plus delighting Purvi, who is dearer to her than any of the rest. It is a no-brainer, but then Archana's brains were probably in the deep freeze at that time!

What I hated the most in that whole exercise was this done-to-death chaal of a woman making herself look like a bad, scheming gold digger,so that the man is suitably disgusted and goes off. It used to be the staple of Hindi films till the 1980s.The other day I read a couple of posts speculating that Purvi might , as part of the grand sacrifice, try something similar to put Arjun off completely and, presumably, drive him to Ovi. I devoutly hope not. On top of the restaurant scene, which has already given me to think about what the CVs are doing to Purvi, this would just about put the sock on it!

Lastly, though it does not affect the parallel I drew between your lines and what Goethe had said about Shakuntala, I am afraid I have goofed up a bit once again. I realised it as soon as I had sent off the post. It "I name thee, O Sakuntala, And all at once is said."

The whole goes like this, and it was
written by Goethe In 1789 after Sir William Jones published a translation of the Sakuntalam:

"Wouldst thou the young year's blossoms and the fruits of its decline
And all by which the soul is charmed, enraptured, feasted, fed,
Wouldst thou the earth and heaven itself in one sole name combine?
I name thee, O Sakuntala! and all at once is said

Shyamala

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Shyamala, I too had to return like that same proverbial penny, looking again for nuances and motives where perhaps none exist.

Archana in making her decision not to return to Manav and appease Sachin instead was unconsciously, maybe, exhibiting her uncertainity about Manav's love? Maybe she knew she was not forsaking Manav's love or her daughters' love in agreeing to Sachin's demands. The man had left her for 18 years, no word in all those long years, she had already been told the girls do not like her and want nothing to do with her, so the hope of gaining their love was nil, far fetched as they at that point lived in Canada, out of bounds to Archana. Her only ray of hope, is the sullen Sachin (he did show some signs of human emotion in the school scene), here I go snatching at straws, whom she reads the best. Moms can read what goes on in the minds of their children, more so than decipher a husband who has been gone for 18 years and it is perhaps for this reason that she reaches out to him, foolhardily, to at least reclaim her son's love, thinking she has nothing to lose or gain where the others are concerned anyway? In hindsight, going back to Manav without resolving all the outstanding issues would not have been the right thing to do.
Archana is emotional and does not think logically and this is pure conjecture but maybe her subconscious took pity on her and did the math and hence her decision to abide by Sachin's infamous demands.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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When Archana lost everything in her life Purvi came like a ray of hope. Archana took Purvi under her wings raised her as her own daughter gave her love, affection, education, values. The connection Archana shares with Purvi is not of blood line but connection of heart and soul. For Archana what importance Purvi holds in her life can't be explained in words. Purvi is not only a daughter but a friend, confidante with whom Archana can share her happiness her pain her worries.

For Purvi the love affection Archana gave her for 18 years is priceless. She has seen Archana's wait, pain, suffering of 18 years for her family. She will never want to be reason for Ovi's heartbreak even if that means sacrificing her happiness she will do it.

Archana always stood for Purvi fought for her with Manju, Sulochna, Vinay. Archana will never let anyone point fingers on Purvi's character insult her. Even if the entire world is against her she would be by her side not leave her hand. When the truth comes out Archana will be shattered broken that Purvi who shared every little things of her life with her today didn't share the biggest pain of her life with her. She decided to sacrifice her happiness her love for Ovi.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: *Shruti*

When Archana lost everything in her life Purvi came like a ray of hope. Archana took Purvi under her wings raised her as her own daughter gave her love, affection, education, values. The connection Archana shares with Purvi is not of blood line but connection of heart and soul. For Archana what importance Purvi holds in her life can't be explained in words. Purvi is not only a daughter but a friend, confidante with whom Archana can share her happiness her pain her worries.

For Purvi the love affection Archana gave her for 18 years is priceless. She has seen Archana's wait, pain, suffering of 18 years for her family. She will never want to be reason for Ovi's heartbreak even if that means sacrificing her happiness she will do it.

Archana always stood for Purvi fought for her with Manju, Sulochna, Vinay. Archana will never let anyone point fingers on Purvi's character insult her. Even if the entire world is against her she would be by her side not leave her hand. When the truth comes out Archana will be shattered broken that Purvi who shared every little things of her life with her today didn't share the biggest pain of her life with her. She decided to sacrifice her happiness her love for Ovi.

Beautifully said .. 👏👏👏
The relationship between Archana and Purvi is the real Pavitra Rishta of this show .
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Dear Janhvi,

I am afraid I do not agree with this, though it is a nice bit of reasoning. It is rather like a college debate, when you argue against the proposition!

The fact is that I was shocked when Archana came out with her speech at Punni's saakarpuda. It was awful, and she was a total fool if she thought that by doing so, she would gain Sachin's gratitude and affection. In any case, Sachin too would be far away in Canada, so what use would his gratitude and/or affecion be to Archana, still stuck here in India? It was obviously as much better decision to risk a throw of the dice, go to Canada with Manav, who was hardly likely to ask her if he did not love her still and want her with him, and try and win over her daughters.Plus delighting Purvi, who is dearer to her than any of the rest. It is a no-brainer, but then Archana's brains were probably in the deep freeze at that time!

What I hated the most in that whole exercise was this done-to-death chaal of a woman making herself look like a bad, scheming gold digger,so that the man is suitably disgusted and goes off. It used to be the staple of Hindi films till the 1980s.The other day I read a couple of posts speculating that Purvi might , as part of the grand sacrifice, try something similar to put Arjun off completely and, presumably, drive him to Ovi. I devoutly hope not. On top of the restaurant scene, which has already given me to think about what the CVs are doing to Purvi, this would just about put the sock on it!


Well said...Agree..Her passive-aggressive behavior...Wrong attitude-decisions at wrong times w/o thinking intellectually or logically has brought her to where Archana is..When Manav claimed his love for Archana, mentioned his disbelief abt Archana signing those divorce papers and wanted her to come along back with him to Canada to reunite with the family, Archana should have accepted instead of showing her jhansiki rani roop..Totally uncalled for and a silly decision thinking this would make Sachu happy.. And doing this big tamasha on her own niece's Sakarpuda in front of Punni's ILs and Sambandhis...A 50 yrs old woman should know some protocols and how to behave in society. SHe could have talked to Manav in private and not this drama in public IMHO.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tanyaz

Beautifully said .. 👏👏👏
The relationship between Archana and Purvi is the real Pavitra Rishta of this show .

Shruti, 👍🏼
Tanya, that last sentence sums it all up. ⭐️⭐️
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Posted: 13 years ago
#36
Shyamala, I tried and failed! 😆 Poor Archana is such a lost cause that not even I when I was typing that last post bought the argument! 😃
She is one messy mass of emotions with no sense of logic in her. No wonder she makes a tragic heroine par excellence!!
That said, I still hold strong that Archana shouldn't have returned to Manav right away, 18 years is a long time, she should have at least made him do one oot bais (sit-ups) for every day of the 18 years he gave her no thought😃.
Varsha, that still baffles me the public dressing down of Manav at Punni's engagement, uncalled for, not sure why the CVs threw that in, doesn't make sense. Archana should have called him aside and spoken with him in private for her own sake as well as his. Maybe she wanted everyone to believe she was a nasty gold-digger for double measure, so that dear Sachin could sleep well at night!! "Dear Sachu, you asked me to do this, but see I did this much more because I love you" 😆 That mother thing again, makes us all do weird things at times! 😉
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Posted: 13 years ago
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archana had no shame in creating that scene on punni's engagement ... she was from the bride's side ... so should had some protocols & decorum of how to behave in front of samdhis ... she gave no thought that her niece can be taunted whole life in sasuraal about the behavior of her maayka people
a function was der & archana got her strong internal urges of screwing up a nice function ...so she thought of creating a big tamasha
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Posted: 13 years ago
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SW1 Archana has done this more than once..
The time She refused to give Vandu money for a flat..Given Ajit was a bad guy-husband but Vandu needed a place to stay..She could have told Manav what she had discovered abt Ajit..But she wanted that Jahansi ki rani roop..Not only she refused which is fine but no need to be rude and insult someone..Stupid Vandu still does Archana Vahini jaap.
But Same Archana defends or makes excuses for Varsha who had an affair with a married man. Also made Vaishu go back to a bigomist. Ruined madhuri and her children's lives by making sure her sister was taken care of by FBD..
I remember how she was hovering over Shravni while she was pregnant and even slapped her once..Although sati savitri was there just for 3 months and promised Shrav that she would divorce Manav but will always have a hold over his heart...Grrr
I can never relate to a woman like Archana..I believe in female rights but not at the cost of demoralizing and insulting a man..Fair is fair but no lopsided relationships sorry..She simply cant make up her mind whether she wants Manav and this marriage or not...She wants the cake and eat it too IMHO...But doing all that still manipulates her husband..😳
I have supported Archana at one time and criticized Manav when he needed to be...So with Savita I have given her enough when she misbehaved with Sachu and Soham...But Archana has made a mess out of her marriage and Deshmukh family by constantly showing her weakness as an individual and never prioritize her marriage..Weakness as Karanjkar daughter over being a wife and a mother..I am no way against girl helping her parents but not at the cost of taking your husband thru the cleaners..Sorry Atari..
This PR is not between a man-wife but a Mother-Daughter rishta..
Edited by Dabulls23 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Varsha, true, no one can dispute the PR between mother and daughter.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Shruti*

When Archana lost everything in her life Purvi came like a ray of hope. Archana took Purvi under her wings raised her as her own daughter gave her love, affection, education, values. The connection Archana shares with Purvi is not of blood line but connection of heart and soul. For Archana what importance Purvi holds in her life can't be explained in words. Purvi is not only a daughter but a friend, confidante with whom Archana can share her happiness her pain her worries.

For Purvi the love affection Archana gave her for 18 years is priceless. She has seen Archana's wait, pain, suffering of 18 years for her family. She will never want to be reason for Ovi's heartbreak even if that means sacrificing her happiness she will do it.

Archana always stood for Purvi fought for her with Manju, Sulochna, Vinay. Archana will never let anyone point fingers on Purvi's character insult her. Even if the entire world is against her she would be by her side not leave her hand. When the truth comes out Archana will be shattered broken that Purvi who shared every little things of her life with her today didn't share the biggest pain of her life with her. She decided to sacrifice her happiness her love for Ovi.



OMG..this is very well written, beautiful post. I love it! ❤️ Keep it up. 👍🏼

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