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Posted: 14 years ago
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I don't think it's cheating when they don't have romantic thoughts about each other on their minds. I feel that their connection stems from a deep respect for each other, and I don't even want to comment on whether Archu is cheating on Jaywant by thinking about Manav. But I know it'll drive me nuts if I don't.

If Archu is considered to be committing infidelity by thinking of Manav, I still respect her more that Jaywant's two-faced-ness.

Manav on the other hand, I think it's pathetic of Shravani to hold on to Manav when he's made it clear to her OVER and OVER again that he doesn't love her and he still loves his ex-wife. She's made out to be some clingy lovesick puppy. I don't even think she loves him, because if she loved him, she would let him be happy. Trust me, I know how hard that is, but seeing the guy I once loved over the moon happy with his girlfriend gives me this strange satisfied happy feeling, even though it left me in tears for a few weeks after I let him go.

Anyways, I don't think Manav is cheating on Shravani for two reasons.

One: he doesn't have romantic feelings for Archu and doesn't fantasize about her.

Two: He made it plain and clear as day that he loved Archu. I would think he was cheating on her (emotional cheating) had he not made clear that he doesn't love her.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sereaishitedare

I don't think it's cheating when they don't have romantic thoughts about each other on their minds. I feel that their connection stems from a deep respect for each other, and I don't even want to comment on whether Archu is cheating on Jaywant by thinking about Manav. But I know it'll drive me nuts if I don't.


If Archu is considered to be committing infidelity by thinking of Manav, I still respect her more that Jaywant's two-faced-ness.

Manav on the other hand, I think it's pathetic of Shravani to hold on to Manav when he's made it clear to her OVER and OVER again that he doesn't love her and he still loves his ex-wife. She's made out to be some clingy lovesick puppy. I don't even think she loves him, because if she loved him, she would let him be happy. Trust me, I know how hard that is, but seeing the guy I once loved over the moon happy with his girlfriend gives me this strange satisfied happy feeling, even though it left me in tears for a few weeks after I let him go.

Anyways, I don't think Manav is cheating on Shravani for two reasons.

One: he doesn't have romantic feelings for Archu and doesn't fantasize about her.

Two: He made it plain and clear as day that he loved Archu. I would think he was cheating on her (emotional cheating) had he not made clear that he doesn't love her.

srry but dont agree,shravani left thrice but armaan got her back,how can u called it not cheating u both r engaged,its not even right to tink abt sumbody else,i beleive wen once u r commited so u r commited,as jay two face concerned archu is not properly aware of it and watever he is plaaning to do now or d hatered for her is all cause of archana behaviour,she speaks to him or giv him d looks as if she id doing a favor on him.if shld cld chnge savita so y not jay.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sherma

srry but dont agree,shravani left thrice but armaan got her back,how can u called it not cheating u both r engaged,its not even right to tink abt sumbody else,i beleive wen once u r commited so u r commited,as jay two face concerned archu is not properly aware of it and watever he is plaaning to do now or d hatered for her is all cause of archana behaviour,she speaks to him or giv him d looks as if she id doing a favor on him.if shld cld chnge savita so y not jay.

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Okay maybe I wasn't as clear as I could have been.

About Arman getting her back, personally, if i was her, I wouldn't have come back. I would value my dignity a little more than that, and I wouldn't want to spend my life with someone whom I KNOW loves someone else.

About thinking about someone else, Archana nor Manav are having romantic thoughts about each other, I like to think of their relationship right now as one of really good FRIENDS. I always want the best for my friends, don't you? If I knew my friend was in trouble or needed something, I'd be the first one there to help.

About Archu not being aware of Jaywant's two-faced-ness, well, she knows how horrible a person he is by sending Manav to jail for something he didn't do. I don't care if she was married to him at one point, I would not want to be married to someone who uses people to protect himself and only thinks of himself. Again, she doesn't have romantic thoughts about Manav, so i don't consider it cheating, only thinking in the best interest of her friend.

About changing Savita and Jaywant, her purpose of life isn't going around changing people. She deserves happiness just like everyone else. Everyone has to work for their happiness, but having to face people who are selfish and having to CHANGE them to be happy with them is extreme and in my opinion not what life is about.

Finally, about him behaving a certain way as a result of Archu's behavior, I don't buy that for one second. Everyone is responsible for their own actions. No matter how much someone is provoked, if push comes to shove its the person who pulled the trigger that's executed. Think about it, would YOU want to marry someone like Jaywant with the HOPE of changing him for the better? IF Jaywant was so annoyed and disturbed by Archana's behavior, why didn't he break off the engagement? Why seek revenge? I don't understand what he is so insecure about, when you are engaged to someone, trust and respect are NECESSITIES. If he had trusted Archu in the first place, she would have a lot more respect for him in turn. Why can't people like him understand that you CAN be friends with your ex? It is not sinful, it is not an embarrassment, it is commendable in my opinion.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sereaishitedare

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Okay maybe I wasn't as clear as I could have been.

About Arman getting her back, personally, if i was her, I wouldn't have come back. I would value my dignity a little more than that, and I wouldn't want to spend my life with someone whom I KNOW loves someone else.

About thinking about someone else, Archana nor Manav are having romantic thoughts about each other, I like to think of their relationship right now as one of really good FRIENDS. I always want the best for my friends, don't you? If I knew my friend was in trouble or needed something, I'd be the first one there to help.

About Archu not being aware of Jaywant's two-faced-ness, well, she knows how horrible a person he is by sending Manav to jail for something he didn't do. I don't care if she was married to him at one point, I would not want to be married to someone who uses people to protect himself and only thinks of himself. Again, she doesn't have romantic thoughts about Manav, so i don't consider it cheating, only thinking in the best interest of her friend.

About changing Savita and Jaywant, her purpose of life isn't going around changing people. She deserves happiness just like everyone else. Everyone has to work for their happiness, but having to face people who are selfish and having to CHANGE them to be happy with them is extreme and in my opinion not what life is about.

Finally, about him behaving a certain way as a result of Archu's behavior, I don't buy that for one second. Everyone is responsible for their own actions. No matter how much someone is provoked, if push comes to shove its the person who pulled the trigger that's executed. Think about it, would YOU want to marry someone like Jaywant with the HOPE of changing him for the better? IF Jaywant was so annoyed and disturbed by Archana's behavior, why didn't he break off the engagement? Why seek revenge? I don't understand what he is so insecure about, when you are engaged to someone, trust and respect are NECESSITIES. If he had trusted Archu in the first place, she would have a lot more respect for him in turn. Why can't people like him understand that you CAN be friends with your ex? It is not sinful, it is not an embarrassment, it is commendable in my opinion.

in tat case dere r so many tings wat armaan shldnt hav done,archu shldnt hav not cum were she was not wanted,manav shld not hav entered d k house cause he and his fanily is alwys insulted dere.u called their eyelocks friendly,obviously not i want stare at my friend like dis, he will tink i hav losted it.their feelings for each other is not friendly at all.i will dedinetly care for my friend and wld hav tryed to stop him although i wldnt hav slaped him cause i know he will giv me two back,🥱i am not against d slap.i am against her burning her hand wat was dat and y,will u burn ur hand for ur friend,i will never do it.and abt jay,d day wen dharmu ask him will he get marry to archu,he was also having thoughts abt it at d end he said he wants a nice married life,who doesnt.see jay is a grey charcter u cannot except him to b gud.and u seriously tink d way archu behave was normal,during her engagement d way she gave cold vibes to jay mom she was not at all normal wid her d way she was wid savita y dont she deserve a nice dil. now wat jay is dng is for his revenge he is not manav tat any1 can treat him as dirt,he has a big ego she pushed him in wrong way now bear d consequence.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sherma

in tat case dere r so many tings wat armaan shldnt hav done,archu shldnt hav not cum were she was not wanted,manav shld not hav entered d k house cause he and his fanily is alwys insulted dere.u called their eyelocks friendly,obviously not i want stare at my friend like dis, he will tink i hav losted it.their feelings for each other is not friendly at all.i will dedinetly care for my friend and wld hav tryed to stop him although i wldnt hav slaped him cause i know he will giv me two back,🥱i am not against d slap.i am against her burning her hand wat was dat and y,will u burn ur hand for ur friend,i will never do it.and abt jay,d day wen dharmu ask him will he get marry to archu,he was also having thoughts abt it at d end he said he wants a nice married life,who doesnt.see jay is a grey charcter u cannot except him to b gud.and u seriously tink d way archu behave was normal,during her engagement d way she gave cold vibes to jay mom she was not at all normal wid her d way she was wid savita y dont she deserve a nice dil. now wat jay is dng is for his revenge he is not manav tat any1 can treat him as dirt,he has a big ego she pushed him in wrong way now bear d consequence.


There were a lot of things Arman shouldn't have done, I agree, but there was a reason Archu went back to Manav's house after his family misbehaved with her, and that reason was that they were married at the time. Any woman would want to make up with her husband after a fight.

What Manav and Archu are going through right now is a result of the relationships forced on them when they were not ready for them. Had they had time to grieve, the eyelocks wouldn't have happened. The hand burning? That was another move made by a desperate woman who can't figure out her feelings because she is being smothered and bullied into thinking she is wrong for feeling what she is when she is not. She is like a puppy who always wants to please. She doesn't want to disappoint anyone and that is her downfall.

About Jaywant being a grey character, we are not talking about the innate intricacies of Jaywant's character, I was simply stating what is logical for anyone in Jaywant's place.

The one thing that truly disgusts me is that you seem to think that Archu deserves to be destroyed because of Jaywant's ego? If you were a woman, and had a man making unwanted advances towards you, and you slapped him to get him to leave you alone, and he decided to rape you because of his 'ego' would you stand around and support that? Jaywant is a creep who thinks he is doing Archu a favor by marrying her, and therefore feels he can restrict her freedom and boss her around. He doesn't really want a wife, he wants a woman who he can boss around and enslave, a woman who will wait on him day and night, hand and foot. If he wanted a wife, he wouldn't be so intent on being revengeful, just saying.

Again, I reiterate, if he really was so disgusted by her attitude and behavior, why didn't he just break off the engagement? If he really was only after HIS happiness, he wouldn't decide to marry her then destroy her. He is in fact intent on seeking revenge from a woman. He wants to show the world he is powerful because he is a MAN, something I find atrocious, despicable, and 🤬.


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sereaishitedare


There were a lot of things Arman shouldn't have done, I agree, but there was a reason Archu went back to Manav's house after his family misbehaved with her, and that reason was that they were married at the time. Any woman would want to make up with her husband after a fight.

What Manav and Archu are going through right now is a result of the relationships forced on them when they were not ready for them. Had they had time to grieve, the eyelocks wouldn't have happened. The hand burning? That was another move made by a desperate woman who can't figure out her feelings because she is being smothered and bullied into thinking she is wrong for feeling what she is when she is not. She is like a puppy who always wants to please. She doesn't want to disappoint anyone and that is her downfall.

About Jaywant being a grey character, we are not talking about the innate intricacies of Jaywant's character, I was simply stating what is logical for anyone in Jaywant's place.

The one thing that truly disgusts me is that you seem to think that Archu deserves to be destroyed because of Jaywant's ego? If you were a woman, and had a man making unwanted advances towards you, and you slapped him to get him to leave you alone, and he decided to rape you because of his 'ego' would you stand around and support that? Jaywant is a creep who thinks he is doing Archu a favor by marrying her, and therefore feels he can restrict her freedom and boss her around. He doesn't really want a wife, he wants a woman who he can boss around and enslave, a woman who will wait on him day and night, hand and foot. If he wanted a wife, he wouldn't be so intent on being revengeful, just saying.

Again, I reiterate, if he really was so disgusted by her attitude and behavior, why didn't he just break off the engagement? If he really was only after HIS happiness, he wouldn't decide to marry her then destroy her. He is in fact intent on seeking revenge from a woman. He wants to show the world he is powerful because he is a MAN, something I find atrocious, despicable, and 🤬.


see again u got me wrong,i am not supporting jay,will never want archu to get marry to him, archu deserve sum1 like satish not weven manav.i gav d eyelock ka example cause u stated tat dey r gud friends.and he dint restrict his freedom,he said he can wrk anywere but not were manav wrks wats wrong in it.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sherma

see again u got me wrong,i am not supporting jay,will never want archu to get marry to him, archu deserve sum1 like satish not weven manav.i gav d eyelock ka example cause u stated tat dey r gud friends.and he dint restrict his freedom,he said he can wrk anywere but not were manav wrks wats wrong in it.


I am sorry if I got you wrong, I just got REALLY mad when I read your last sentence where you said that she deserved whatever he shelled out because she rubbed his ego the wrong way, then I slipped into full rant mode😳 I do sincerely apologize.

However, I do agree that she deserves someone like Satish, he even puts up with Varsha and her childishness.

When I said he was restricting her freedom, I didn't mean work. I think he said that it would be detrimental to their relationship if they worked at the same place, and then Archu volunteered to quit her position.

What I meant was that even before they got married he started telling her who she could meet, who she couldn't, his mom came over and taunted her a gazillion times, ORDERED her to quit her job, all sorts of crap! No woman needs to be bossed around. Every woman is an individual and must be treated with respect, and requested to do things not ordered!

I shudder just imagining what kinds of torture will be lashed out to Archana if she does end up marrying Jaywant.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sereaishitedare


I am sorry if I got you wrong, I just got REALLY mad when I read your last sentence where you said that she deserved whatever he shelled out because she rubbed his ego the wrong way, then I slipped into full rant mode😳 I do sincerely apologize.

However, I do agree that she deserves someone like Satish, he even puts up with Varsha and her childishness.

When I said he was restricting her freedom, I didn't mean work. I think he said that it would be detrimental to their relationship if they worked at the same place, and then Archu volunteered to quit her position.

What I meant was that even before they got married he started telling her who she could meet, who she couldn't, his mom came over and taunted her a gazillion times, ORDERED her to quit her job, all sorts of crap! No woman needs to be bossed around. Every woman is an individual and must be treated with respect, and requested to do things not ordered!

I shudder just imagining what kinds of torture will be lashed out to Archana if she does end up marrying Jaywant.

if u say jay is a bad man cause he framed manav i agree,he is a evil man cause he has evil plan to destroy archu life,i agree dere too. but abt he forcing archu for not meeting only manav is not wrong for him quitting job is again not wrong,but i hav seeen my friends getting bullied by their boy friends like dont tlk to him,do dis do dat.MEN ARE b*****d,u cant help it not every1 is like manav and even manav was not less he just saw archu wid satish in his car,he was so upset.
and abt d torture however bad jay mom is,she isnt as bad as savita,d way savita behaved and tourted archu was horrible,i wld hav divorced manav cause of savita tourting me.😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sherma

if u say jay is a bad man cause he framed manav i agree,he is a evil man cause he has evil plan to destroy archu life,i agree dere too. but abt he forcing archu for not meeting only manav is not wrong for him quitting job is again not wrong,but i hav seeen my friends getting bullied by their boy friends like dont tlk to him,do dis do dat.MEN ARE b*****d,u cant help it not every1 is like manav and even manav was not less he just saw archu wid satish in his car,he was so upset.

and abt d torture however bad jay mom is,she isnt as bad as savita,d way savita behaved and tourted archu was horrible,i wld hav divorced manav cause of savita tourting me.😆


HAHAHA...I would have divorced him cuz of Savita too...😆

Getting serious now, I don't understand why you defend egoistic selfish men so much. Most of the guys I know are not even close to being like that. They respect their girlfriends, and the girls I know wouldn't dream of letting any guy bully them around. I'm not saying these kinds of guys don't exist because that would be extremely naive and stupid of me, but please don't defend them.

You cannot excuse men who behave like pigs towards their partners simply because they are men. Male or female, everyone is held accountable for what they do, and everyone is held accountable equally. If a man is selfish and a moron and self-centered and a b*****d as you so kindly put it, that is what they are, and they must be avoided. When us women start accepting what these kinds of men dish out at us we in turn condone and encourage these behaviors, and that is NOT acceptable.

I find it very sad that women cuss each other out and tear each other to shreds to make themselves feel better. I feel that if us women don't stick up for each other, how on earth can we expect men to respect us? Savita and Jaywant's mom (I don't care to know her name) are two such sad examples of female-kind.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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i am not defending dem at all but off lately am meeeting dis kind of men,believe me or not 65%of men r egoistic, dominating,loosers and r gud for nthing,i hav seen people like jay so can compare him wid dat person, but hav never seen any1 like armaan ever in life cant relate to dem or feel srry for dem,u know have seen people like satish too who feel guilty like mad doing sumting wrong and den try to improve it, but armaan r a case.too feel sympathise twrd sumbody u need to understnd dem but i dont understnd armaan.

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