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Posted: 15 years ago
Hi Kools. I have posted my first topic on PR today. Take a loot at it. I read your commentary regularly. But I am still not convinced that Archana and Manav should separate. They are made for each other howsoever stupid and emotional fools they be. I mean, their bond has been made. They emotionally accepted each other as husband and wife. So both can not live 'happily ever after' with anyone. Even to come to the normalcy it takes a decade or two.

In my opinion, Shravani was even wrong at blaming Manav that he risked her life. That was too harsh. He said he will convince her. So he will. Shravani should remember in what condition he was ready to marry her.

Everyone said it is not Manav's business to deal with Archana's life. Well, I don't agree for that entirely. Why? They were emotionally bonded when they got separated. They openly expressed their love with each other. Moreover, when Archu can be concerned for Manav and his family then why not Manav can think of Arch and her family?

Should Manav stop loving Arch after the marriage with Shravani? No. And it depends on Shravani how well she can comfort Manav. If Manav doesn't get interested in her, it's not his fault.

Should Archana stop loving Manav? Yes. Why? When Manav made the promise to Shravani, he did not commit for the love. It is for the sake of saving that child and saving Shravani from getting humiliated. It was just a compromise and he said it to her too. She agreed for this arrangement. Shravani was in need of a male figure so Manav provided that. Manav wanted to put his barren life to some use, so he agreed for it.

Archana is getting into the bond of this marriage knowing the situation very well. She did not disclose the condition to Jay why she was ready to get marry. If she had disclosed it to Jay and Jay agreed even for that, then she could continue to worship Manav. But, Archu can be happy only with Manav. Any other relationship is just a compromise for her.
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Posted: 15 years ago
Excellent post rightchoice ..I agree with everything you have said ...
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Posted: 15 years ago

Mogga:

poylein tujhe doni anjank aun janmache porben dithan.😃😃 tankan mojhe and mojhe akeh famili che mog di. 🤗 ani tukka dyo borein korun tujhe bore uttrank noye ghorak.😃


re the show. I am working on limited bandwidth today so logging in only to check written updates. Read your commentary of course it was amazing as usual. Found the part about the rain scene very interesting. I was touched to see my sher Kool turn softie and so curious at the emotions evoked and expressed so heart renderingly in your commentary that I thought that even if I do not see the whole epi at least I will see the last clip to catch that scene. What I saw did not prepare me for the emotions I am feeling right now and you know me I need to speak my mind.


While we usually respond pretty similarly to the scenes, plot and characters. Today was the exception to the rule. My emotions were so powerful watching that scene but my thoughts were so unkind that I did not think that ramblings should be my venting relief today. So I hope you don't mind Mogga I am posting on your commentary.


If I were to use one word to describe that clip it would be - DISGUSTING. sick to my stomach, rip out my guts disgusting.


Is she insane? Accepting a life changing decision for the most illogical word of a man?


What is this - a three legged relay race? Archu-Manav- Shravani and no one cares about who fills the spot of the fourth leg as long as it is a breathing body? So are we to assuming that her biggest fear is dropping Manav's zimmedari baton (irrationally and illogically held since the start of the race) so that all 3 IDIOTS (unfortunately for whom ALL IZZ DEFINITELTY NOT WELL) can make it to the winners stand to claim the prize of Abysmmal Failiure??? Don't they realize they are all losers being glorified unnecessarily on the winners stand. Idiots. All Idiots. I don't know who is a bigger idiot here. the characters. the actors intent on playing these farcical characters. Shibu or ME for watching this show of unending unsavable LOSER HEAVEN.


why the HELL did she go to him? This is a man who bartered your heart, your soul, your sanity, your love, AND NOW YOUR FUTURE for his sick mommy love - GIRL wake up and smell the freaking roses already. What did you go to him for - UNDERSTANDING? SYMPATHY? MEMORIES? What the freak did you go to him for? Humanity? Have you learnt nothing? Can you see nothing? Do you have no love of self, no hope, no personal goal or pride? Could you not have sent the invitation card as your response to his bet? BTW, what was the wager you won, you nincompoop of the highest order? Your life for Shravani's future? For what the love of the man or your love of the memory of the man that was?

What was with that stupid tadap tadap song. Tumhare pyaar mein sab kuch luta diya. Let me tell you something Shibu. THE SONG DOES NOT APPLY. Salman Khan did not choose to give up the girl. he was forced to as gurudakshana. Your lame-ass hero callously destroyed her very being from its core and he says he did it for her love?? No he did not. he did it because he is a secret thumb-sucker and it ain't his thumb he is sucking its Hitler mommy's.


Sorry guys, I know I am going contrary to popular opinion here. probably the only thing that I agree with all of you about was the Sushita's performance was convincing. I am an emotional fool but in that scene today I did not cry. I felt ZERO ZERO in fact NEGATIVE sympathy for the two leads. they are fools. They should all suffer. even Archu. For abusing marriage, God's blessing. condoning bigamy, playing with lives like it's a game of poker, destroying families and lives for a foolhardy plan, playing footloose with that child's life even before it's started by making it a product of a pre-planned doomed marriage. I hope they suffer. both leads. Then I will be happy. more than anything else I want that to be the message impressionable minds receive from this show. their sufferance should be the moral of this story. All impressionable minds should know if you are going disrespect God's gifts, a rare love and soul-mate, the institution of marriage and try to PLAY GOD with your lives and other innocent lives then you will suffer like Manav and Archana. I do not want Archana to be happy. Today she has disappointed me as a woman. Accepting a marriage (when it goes contrary to your will and your very being) for the sake of being a long -remembered jilted lover. I am so sorry that I saw that clip.


Wow that felt good. venting is good.

Kools, if your offended. PM me and I will delete this entire post.

Mog Hope

PS: Going to bed now. Movers will be in at 9 tomorrow morning. Need to direct them around.

Edited by stillhopeful - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
Hey Kools,

First of all, a very very happy birthday to your twins! 🥳 🥳🥳🥳

Thanks for the touching commentary. Was at work when I read it and could not resist watching PR during lunchtime😲. Ankita Lokhande was awesome today! If there is a term for bawling without noise, I did that today.There will be very few people out there who did not cry while watching the scene.

I dont know whether CVs are going to risk ArMan getting married to different people or not but I just wish they would give Archu a better and happier life. It was heartbreaking to see her cry today. If not, I dont know what message the writers have in mind, that if you are good, have a big heart and sacrifice for others you lose out on all the happiness in life? And people who know how to fight for their own happiness , not caring about others get everything they want? Manav was shown to be sad today with that totally inappropriate song in the background but could not help being indifferent to his misery today. But yes feel pity for him, because he bartered the most precious thing in his life for farz and his mommy.

You have said everything about Choo. Just want to say I have always disliked her but dislike her more today. (sorry I cant be objective about her, I also dislike the actress very very much)
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Posted: 15 years ago
Nice commentary, Kool. I only watched the end scene today, after reading such rave reviews on it. It was certainly worth it for the performances, Ankita and Sushant were very convincing; the actual content, though, somehow failed to move me. At this point I fail to sympathize with either of their characters. I really just couldn't buy into any of it, even with the strong acting.
If I am understanding correctly the elementary symbolism of the writers, then it seems like now Manav will be tadap-ing while Archana tries to stay away and fulfill her new promise to marry Jaywant. Usually the way they exit in these scenes sets up the future track, and this time it was Archana who broke away while Manav stood there going through his own memories fund. Let's see what happens, although I cannot honestly say that I actually look forward to that. 😆
Lastly, Happy Birthday to your twins!!! I hope they had an awesome birthday and have a fun bounce house party tomorrow and a great year ahead! 🤗
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Posted: 15 years ago
Hope , TB , bhavni , Fifs , Tanya , Karen , Varsha Saffy , Shraddhu GM Anu and ALL who wished the twins happy birthday ................There were so many , lots of love to u guys from them .They were very happy to have so many friends wishing them . The friday afternoon tomorrow is gonna be BOUNCY .🤗 To all from the Twins.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: PRnerd

😆 you know kools when i was younger and in school and couldnt learn my maths, my mom would tell me my head was hard like a coconut😆...it was so funny, today i was in a bad mood and was already gearing up to cry when i decided to look at PR to clear my head and ended up crying anyway...😆😆😆 kools what i would have given to see you cry today😆..that would've been a kodak moment

Fifs indeed it was a Kodak moment . To my horror I found a tear drop under my eye lid and I was l like .did i cry ? Bloody hell ! I said to myself .I hurriedly wiped my eyes [ Im always embarassed when i cry] and found to my horror they were wet AGAIN . 😆😆😆😆
Fifs I only cried when the elephant in Haati mere Saathi died . I hardly get moved by romantic scenes , most of the time im sarcastic . Sometimes i cry when i see famine stricken children etc . But NEVER romance and bidaai etc . Hell I didnt cry at my own bidaai .😆😆😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
Ok, my predictions for the next 15 days or so ( till his marriage date comes) from Manav 's point of view.. Manav ... Now he will go back home and he will apologise to Shravani for putting her future marriage as a bet in front of archana ...but he will tell her , ' as I told you Archana will never say No ' . Then a battle will start for him ... The battle is going to be between heart and mind ..
Mind will tell him ...make a new begining with Shravani ...Forget Archana , she belongs to someone else ..Be nice to Shravani , take her out , smile at her ....do all the things you should be doing with your future wife ..You have to live with her ...get intimate with her ....try and be happy Manav , this is the right thing to do for your you and your family ...
Heart will say ...I cannot forget her ....I don't care if she belongs to another man ...I hate it ..I don't want to see her with someone else . I know she is in good hands but it hurts me so bad to see her with someone . She has changed towards me now ..She is slipping away from me and I am hating this ....
I am not myself any more now ...I am not the Manav I used to be . I don't even know who I am anymore ...
This battle of mind and heart will continue ..Then I think some incident will happen ...something big that will act as a catalyst and create chaos ...
Even I don't know what will win in this battle ...Manav's heart or his mind ....
Edited by Tanyaz - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago

Excellent post Hope. I hope Kool allows it to remain, as I believe it will ignite an interesting debate. I was also outraged when I saw the actual episode and started to rant and rave but I melted after reading Kool's commentary. Her writing skill is just exceptional.

I was more inclined to blast Manav and Shravani. However, I fully agree with your take on Archana. It is unthinkable and sad that someone will allow another to have total control over them to the point of a slow death.

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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: stillhopeful

Mogga:

poylein tujhe doni anjank aun janmache porben dithan.😃😃 tankan mojhe and mojhe akeh famili che mog di. 🤗 ani tukka dyo borein korun tujhe bore uttrank noye ghorak.😃 Than k u so much hopester .🤗


re the show. I am working on limited bandwidth today so logging in only to check written updates. Read your commentary of course it was amazing as usual. Found the part about the rain scene very interesting. I was touched to see my sher Kool turn softie and so curious at the emotions evoked and expressed so heart renderingly in your commentary that I thought that even if I do not see the whole epi at least I will see the last clip to catch that scene. What I saw did not prepare me for the emotions I am feeling right now and you know me I need to speak my mind.


While we usually respond pretty similarly to the scenes, plot and characters. Today was the exception to the rule. My emotions were so powerful watching that scene but my thoughts were so unkind that I did not think that ramblings should be my venting relief today. So I hope you don't mind Mogga I am posting on your commentary.


If I were to use one word to describe that clip it would be - DISGUSTING. sick to my stomach, rip out my guts disgusting.


Is she insane? Accepting a life changing decision for the most illogical word of a man?Actually Hope she IS . Insanely in love . For the first tie i understood that and I cudnt be angry with her .Hope theres no point talking to a person who has gone insane in love . Manav is nOT insanely in love , he is a very controlled man .But she is insanely in love .


What is this - a three legged relay race? Archu-Manav- Shravani and no one cares about who fills the spot of the fourth leg as long as it is a breathing body? So are we to assuming that her biggest fear is dropping Manav's zimmedari baton (irrationally and illogically held since the start of the race) so that all 3 IDIOTS (unfortunately for whom ALL IZZ DEFINITELTY NOT WELL) can make it to the winners stand to claim the prize of Abysmmal Failiure??? Don't they realize they are all losers being glorified unnecessarily on the winners stand. Idiots. All Idiots. I don't know who is a bigger idiot here. the characters. the actors intent on playing these farcical characters. Shibu or ME for watching this show of unending unsavable LOSER HEAVEN.


why the HELL did she go to him? This is a man who bartered your heart, your soul, your sanity, your love, AND NOW YOUR FUTURE for his sick mommy love - GIRL wake up and smell the freaking roses already. What did you go to him for - UNDERSTANDING? SYMPATHY? MEMORIES? What the freak did you go to him for? Humanity? Have you learnt nothing? Can you see nothing? Do you have no love of self, no hope, no personal goal or pride? Could you not have sent the invitation card as your response to his bet? BTW, what was the wager you won, you nincompoop of the highest order? Your life for Shravani's future? For what the love of the man or your love of the memory of the man that was? Hope she doesnt . She has no love of self , hope or personal pride at all . Those things dont matter to her .All she wants is Manav .

What was with that stupid tadap tadap song. Tumhare pyaar mein sab kuch luta diya. Let me tell you something Shibu. THE SONG DOES NOT APPLY. Salman Khan did not choose to give up the girl. he was forced to as gurudakshana. Your lame-ass hero callously destroyed her very being from its core and he says he did it for her love?? No he did not. he did it because he is a secret thumb-sucker and it ain't his thumb he is sucking its Hitler mommy's. Hope The sad thing is he did it for keeping his image as a NON SWARTHI in front of the mOMMIES ...his and hers . His first answer that Let the world think Im swarthi i dont care , I wont force her to marry was RIGHT . Just so mommies shudnt call him swarthi he made her lay her head on the gullotine and she did . For Manav it was far more important that the mommies shud think well of him . Just like keeping his word to Girish was far more important . Archana is NOT his priority in life Hope . He doesnt give a damn about her and his so called love is on hIS terms and conditions .


Sorry guys, I know I am going contrary to popular opinion here. probably the only thing that I agree with all of you about was the Sushita's performance was convincing. I am an emotional fool but in that scene today I did not cry. I felt ZERO ZERO in fact NEGATIVE sympathy for the two leads. they are fools. They should all suffer. even Archu. For abusing marriage, God's blessing. condoning bigamy, playing with lives like it's a game of poker, destroying families and lives for a foolhardy plan, playing footloose with that child's life even before it's started by making it a product of a pre-planned doomed marriage. I hope they suffer. both leads. Then I will be happy. more than anything else I want that to be the message impressionable minds receive from this show. their sufferance should be the moral of this story. All impressionable minds should know if you are going disrespect God's gifts, a rare love and soul-mate, the institution of marriage and try to PLAY GOD with your lives and other innocent lives then you will suffer like Manav and Archana. I do not want Archana to be happy. Today she has disappointed me as a woman. Accepting a marriage (when it goes contrary to your will and your very being) for the sake of being a long -remembered jilted lover. I am so sorry that I saw that clip. Hope they abused marraige when they divorced INSPITE OF LOVING EACH OTHER . Divorce shud be done when love ends , when betrayal or abuse sets in .They divorced when their love was at peak . Then they abused marraige with their clandestine emotional consummation post divorce . Now they r abusing marraige by entering into matrimony with two people they dont love . Those 2 r gona be very unhappy and ARMAN will be responsible for it.


Wow that felt good. venting is good.

Kools, if your offended. PM me and I will delete this entire post. Offended ? U cool Dudette I ENJOYED it . U know me , do u think I get offended by anything contrary to popular opinion or find it interesting ? The reason I went soft was the way she held his shirt till the end asking him mutely nOT to let her go and he stood there , not giving her what she wants till the end .The way she clung to him till the end was heart wrenching . She so badly wanted him to say Dont go and he remained in control . Somehow it pricked my rhino hide of sarcasm .

Mog Hope

PS: Going to bed now. Movers will be in at 9 tomorrow morning. Need to direct them around.Happy moving Hope .😊

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