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Posted: 15 years ago
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Sad day for Manav though,shravni does'nt trust manav even after he told he will look for another job.Going to Archu's tamasha for nothing.Beats me what she thinks the relationship is even heading to.

Setting aside my ArMan jazbat,I always fault shravni for her near-sightedness and inability to put herself in anybody's shoes,especially Manav's

And this is where the difference between Dhammu and Shravni lies -they both r practical,blunt,go-getters -but Dhammu sees others perspective keenly,looks what THEY SEE,and then concludes -he empathizes does not sympathize,becomes selfish whatever

But SHravni just does not want to see anything from anybody's perspective,totally self-absorbed - empathy requires patience to observe,symapathy is a personal after take

If she had,she wud have taken manav's request for legal marriage against saat phere mandap stuff - but no,she wanted it all,mehendi,mandap,phera -I disliked her want it all attitude in this situation -it is neither arranged nor a love marriage, where was her practicality then?She was as bad as savita at that point,practical when it suits her,unpractical and selfish when its her craving

I think savita and shrav r made for each other now😆need to coin a name for this jodi😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: saffiyyah

As usual,I dont😆
I think Archu telling Manav will not quit,is her same stance that she took during the resignation episode - dont quit job rashly,be sensible u have family to support.
If Manav took another job,she will wish him well with all her heart,not resent or grudge it.
Archu still considers herself to be,mildly put,well wisher and guardian angel of Manav and D family.Any well wisher wud give such advice.

. She doesnt consider herself well wisher and guardian angel . She considers herself WIFE . Even post divorce .[ Train sequence ..remember it well .] She tries o keep it well hidden from Shravni and hugs those thoughts scretly to herself but FAILS as Shravni has sharp womanly instincts .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: saffiyyah

Sad day for Manav though,shravni does'nt trust manav even after he told he will look for another job.Going to Archu's tamasha for nothing.Beats me what she thinks the relationship is even heading to.

Setting aside my ArMan jazbat,I always fault shravni for her near-sightedness and inability to put herself in anybody's shoes,especially Manav's

And this is where the difference between Dhammu and Shravni lies -they both r practical,blunt,go-getters -but Dhammu sees others perspective keenly,looks what THEY SEE,and then concludes -he empathizes does not sympathize,becomes selfish whatever

But SHravni just does not want to see anything from anybody's perspective,totally self-absorbed - empathy requires patience to observe,symapathy is a personal after take

If she had,she wud have taken manav's request for legal marriage against saat phere mandap stuff - but no,she wanted it all,mehendi,mandap,phera -I disliked her want it all attitude in this situation -it is neither arranged nor a love marriage, where was her practicality then?She was as bad as savita at that point,practical when it suits her,unpractical and selfish when its her craving

I think savita and shrav r made for each other now😆need to coin a name for this jodi😆

She is what she is saffy , a common girl . Unselfishness is an uncommon trait . Savita told she is AAM ladki .Last time when i told this many disagreed with me and told no , she is faaar worse etc .But she is just a common girl .
Savita too doesnt see beyond her goal . Its Sachu toh its Sachu . Tanya commented rightly on how she saw Manavs miserable face yet she still hankers after Sachu . Same way Shravni wants Manav , bas . Many , many people in the world r this way only saffy .Its a 60 to 40 percent ratio .........the 60 being like Shravani and Savita .
What i see is she cud have been WORST . She cud have Manju's traits for instance , besides her craze for Manav . Can u imagine the combo ? As a matter of fact she is not as bad as Rasika and Manju TILL NOW .[ I dunno what she will become in future after her monologue today .] She is ok with his family and has adjusted there .Her crime is she is NOT willing to give up Manav .
Manju is legally married but she destroyed lives of not her competition or Sout , but INNOCENTS who never harmed her . If Archu had stayed away from Manav , Shravni wudnt be interested in her enuf to destroy her . As it happens , Archu will be daily in contact with Manav and she has seen their looks in the rain scene . Shravani doesnt make others miserable for the heck of it ...for instance she is OK with Vandu . Manju HATES her nanands.
I find Manju a worst person than Shravni . Shravni is crazily in one sided love , and she sees any woman who loves Manav as a threat , she leaves other humans alone .Manju and Rasika destroyed not Archu but Manav , Varsha , Satish , Bhavna......Urmi ...see the list . Those people had never harmed Manju .
I wud understand a Manju hate club .She is really a bad egg . Shravni was not this bad and still isnt ..........spoilt yes , arrogant yes , selfish yes , but not as bad as Manju . She is a manipulated girl who fell in love with a man not in love with her ...the worst thing that cud happen to a woman , and started expressing her love in possesive way so strongly that the possesiveness at some stage will go sour . It already has .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

. She doesnt consider herself well wisher and guardian angel . She considers herself WIFE . Even post divorce .[ Train sequence ..remember it well .] She tries o keep it well hidden from Shravni and hugs those thoughts scretly to herself but FAILS as Shravni has sharp womanly instincts .

Ks and Ds,everybody knows Archu still considers PR with manav.
She is not making demands as wife,but making her demand to shravni to see manav's dilemma now as a bread winner as a well wisher.Shravni does not want Archu to be in the maidan at all
is her womanly problem
As u rightly said,Shravni has to understand that she cannot control other humans,not even Archu's sentiments of pativrata, of PR. She shud concentrate only on reforming Manav - threaten him,thatz between them 2-move to another city herself with him,whatever
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Posted: 15 years ago
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And KoolDi,I cant help writing this,its my nature to bakbak,get it off my chest.I disagree with ur Shravni is an underdog post-leap stand.

Underdogs are victims of circumstance,not mindset.Their staying power decides whether they win or lose.

Archu was a classic underdog post jail,showed staying power and proved her unconditional love for manav.justice done.

Manav was an underdog post SNP pre-jail,showed staying power and proved his innocence.justice done.

Shravni was an underdog post savita's capitulation for Archu pre-divorce ,she showed staying power demanding savita keep up her promise to her.ArMan divorce gave her justice.

But post leap, they are all only victims of their mindset - nobody is an underdog now.They can win only if others lose,by clearing the maidan,thatz not what underdogs do

And manav wins the mindset game here,when he is in control,loses big time when he loses it(shows jazbat).He is the only possible underdog though,in case he openly shows love for Archu after her engagement.Shravni cannot be underdog anymore,this taking baby from her is just a filmy ending to story,nothing to do with characters' actions.

I might be wrong writing this post,sorry for the constant blabs.But I do not compare characters,

Why shud we make shravni good,coz manju is evil? or savita is evil?Shravni is not evil
per se,but she is grey and if not checkmated will become dark -her ability for villainy is not apparent,bcoz she was a victim once,thatz all.Her mindset proves that she is weak enuf to cross the ethical threshold,thatz why Archu,varshu,vaishu,sulo,vandu they will never become villain,even in desperation or times of grey.
I think its us supporting different shades of gray of Archu's vs Shravni-I agree to disagree😃😲😕😆
Edited by saffiyyah - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#46
Shravni is crazily in one sided love , and she sees any woman who loves Manav as a threat
Kool that one line proved Shravani can never be a normal girl. She is absolutely mad and needs help.
There are many Manjus and Rasikas around but a normal Shravani no, mad Shravani yes.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: star_wars

Shravni is crazily in one sided love , and she sees any woman who loves Manav as a threat

Kool that one line proved Shravani can never be a normal girl. She is absolutely mad and needs help.
There are many Manjus and Rasikas around but a normal Shravani no, mad Shravani yes.

So u dont find Archana obsessed with Manav ?No consummation , lots of abuse from his mom , seeing open bigamy , still calling him Bhagwan and saying Sachu is her bacha is not 'absolutely MAD ' ? A 15 day marraige , mind u ..........all these tall claims of knowing him etc ..........patronising Shravani by saying BADKISMATI SE TUM MANAV KO SAMAJH NA SAKI ..........SHe knows Manav is it ? Then she must be knowing that he threw her over for his mother ? Yet the refusal to move on .........Why is it termed as LOVE not Obsession ? Coz Manav returns a few eyelocks ? The bottom line is he threw her over didnt he ?
What Shravni has is obsession , what Archu has is LOVE ? Who decides this starwars ? Perspective .........right dear ? Star wars its all is on the presentation , the way this story has been presented . A big love hype is created .......ARMAN . Janam Janam Rishta , Trust Factor that shud be implicit inspite of 15 day non consummated marraige ..how dare she distrust Manav .Why shudnt Archu distrust Manav ...........photografs of him with PROSTITUES were shown publicly ...........Hell , I wud distrust MY husband if such photos were shown to ME . Yet it was shown as a bigggggggggg Crime .And in a jiffy after hearing a tape this girl suddenly matures into a Pativrata and starts doing antics like tolerating unlimited ABUSE , appeasing the girl he wants to marry , sleeping in kitchen among cockroaches and what not .
If u look at it objectively she is AS oBSESSED as Shravani .She comes across as a repressed female , sheltered too much by her mom , and then suddenly bursting like a volcano and hanging to the only and her first Man that she encountered . Plz dont take offense but thers nothing healthy about Archnas Love for Manav . Same with Shravni .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I'm telling you Kool, it must be the way he smells. It drives these chicks wild.
I think both of them have quite an unhealthy obsession with Manav. Shravani could be doing so much better for herself, but she still clings on even though she knows that he still loves Archana. Archana got a divorce but still subconciously considers him her husband. Both of them desperately need friends; their lives aren't balanced at all.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: saffiyyah

And KoolDi,I cant help writing this,its my nature to bakbak,get it off my chest.I disagree with ur Shravni is an underdog post-leap stand.

Underdogs are victims of circumstance,not mindset.Their staying power decides whether they win or lose.

Archu was a classic underdog post jail,showed staying power and proved her unconditional love for manav.justice done.

Manav was an underdog post SNP pre-jail,showed staying power and proved his innocence.justice done.

Shravni was an underdog post savita's capitulation for Archu pre-divorce ,she showed staying power demanding savita keep up her promise to her.ArMan divorce gave her justice.

But post leap, they are all only victims of their mindset - nobody is an underdog now.They can win only if others lose,by clearing the maidan,thatz not what underdogs do

And manav wins the mindset game here,when he is in control,loses big time when he loses it(shows jazbat).He is the only possible underdog though,in case he openly shows love for Archu after her engagement.Shravni cannot be underdog anymore,this taking baby from her is just a filmy ending to story,nothing to do with characters' actions.

I might be wrong writing this post,sorry for the constant blabs.But I do not compare characters,

Why shud we make shravni good,coz manju is evil? or savita is evil?Shravni is not evil
per se,but she is grey and if not checkmated will become dark -her ability for villainy is not apparent,bcoz she was a victim once,thatz all.Her mindset proves that she is weak enuf to cross the ethical threshold,thatz why Archu,varshu,vaishu,sulo,vandu they will never become villain,even in desperation or times of grey.
I think its us supporting different shades of gray of Archu's vs Shravni-I agree to disagree😃😲😕😆

Hope said that day in my Aug 3 commentary that The status of an underdog is related to the injustice borne and not to the visible reaction or response .
And injustice she has BORNE . Her fiancee DIED due to Archu's vahinis complaint and what horror ensued due to it later . Even on the day Manav was arrested , this Archu who u call a big pativrata , was Least interested in even knowing why his Chawl home door was LOCKED .........she didnt bother to even enquire with the neighbours , Varsha was more concerned than Archu .Look at that episode if u wish and tell me if what I say is false . All Archu was interested in was getting back to Mommys function and dancing .
All Shravnis dreams got destroyed due to that complaint . She had premarital sex .........but see Sachins character .A guy who PINCHED Womens BUTTS . A fast guy , unlike his bro . Can we dare to keep our hatred aside for a second and assume that he took initiative and manipulated her to have sex with him and that she innocently complied like many many young gals do out there ? Im telling u NO ONE will agree . everyone will say she is chaalu girl , people go to the extent of saying she will RAPE Manav . We dont see evidence for this ....for saying this about Sachin we have evidence . We dont see Shravni flirting with chawl men , Or any man outside . She is perfectly loyal To Manav . The fact that she fell in love with fiancees elder bro is regarded as unnatural but I have seen far faster love affairs in my life .Besides CVS have NO TIME .people forget it .
Then the manipulation by Savita . First the immense pampering .........she was happy . Then the sowing of hate seed in her mind for Archu . Initially she never disliked Archu .But someone stood by her ears like a little green devil with a tail and a trident and poked her constantly like IAGO to notice things which were not there . Who showed her Archna in Manavs room at 2 in the night ? Savita .
And when the seed of Hate sprouted and took root this Savita changed suddenly due to her personal experiences [ Vandu] and started demanding Shravni shud do an about turn and LOVE Archu . Well it was too late , but Savita became good and Shravni the bad one .Who made her bad ?Sure , advance me the argument that howmuchever u r taught by sumone if ur inherently good u never turn bad etc , but in real life , poisoiners r very very effective .............Wives poison their husbands and break them away from their own mothers .
And Manav ! Does anyone remember how he told Shravni she wud be his priority ?Archna is Nothing he told her ...three three times she had asked , gone to abort . Excuse for Manav is HE CLEARLY TOLD HER ITS A COMPRO MARRAIGE . Really ? How stupid to assume that a young gal wud never develop feelings for him in the course of time that she shud live like a veritable nun coz he had the capacity to live like a monk ? How much did Manav encourage her does anyone recollect ? He was not even spitting on Archnas face then .
And Now Sachu .The nautankis of the D company to take her child away from her . All of them r in it ..even divorced Archu . She came that day and used Ehsaan card and once more ensured that Sachu remains with her darling MIL Savita. Sure U can say Shravni hung around as she is crazy after Manav and I agree but does it absolve Archu of the nonsense she does for Manavs sake ?
As it is she will lose and lose so badly that she will lose her baby to Archu too . Post leap has NOTHING to do with the underdog . Todate Shravni is being USED very badly by all . Nothing , absolutely nothing changes this fact . Everyone was hating Girish but Girish was an ok man .Practical but not bad . It was proven later .
There is no question of diminishing Shravnis badness by comparing her with Manju .If thats the case why is she called bad byy constantly comparing her nature with Archus ? I There u guys do comparison na ?I did this to point out that Manju is legally wedded , has no souten , No premarital sex or baby out of wedlock but is a far worse human being than Shravni . Far Far Worse . Shravni had no mother to guide her and grew spoilt [ here i clearly admit there r many motherless children who r nOT spoilt too , but ratio is equal] , was later unfortunate in life , used by many for her baby ..............Manju had a mom , lived happily , married happily , had EVERYTHING and yet her goal is to destroy human beings . And when i say destroy i mean DESTROY .
Yes Shravni talks loudly , bluntly , has a voice that not many like and is spoilt to a fault . But that doesnt make her any less a victim . I agree to disagree with u .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: toothbrush13

I'm telling you Kool, it must be the way he smells. It drives these chicks wild.

I think both of them have quite an unhealthy obsession with Manav. Shravani could be doing so much better for herself, but she still clings on even though she knows that he still loves Archana. Archana got a divorce but still subconciously considers him her husband. Both of them desperately need friends; their lives aren't balanced at all.

Indeed they arent . Archu has NO friends neither does Shravni . No hobbies . Nothing . Only one craze .........Manav .One calls him Bhagwan one calls him PATI . They r equally obseesed TB .
Bhagwan meanwhile has Tarun and workers at least . He is detached with both women and has a Mommy fixation .
And this it seems is PAVITRA RISHTA . Im telling u , thousands of Jaywants will come and go , what they wont have is the smell . 😆😆😆

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