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Posted: 4 years ago
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I don't understand what the CVs want or are trying to prove. I mean, I know this track is about Shiva's insecurity but is blatant, atrocious disrespect and disregard for a person's feelings the only way they can go about it?

Is it a direct adaptation from the OG version? Or is it the CVs method of extracting maximum drama for TRPs? I am actually curious.

I mean, I understand that as Raavi's friend, she (the girl in the precap) is genuinely concerned for her well-being but isn't there a more subtle way to go about it? I am sure most 10 year-olds I know have more subtlety and compassion than that girl, lol.

Or does she think that just because he wears clothes he is comfortable in, she won't hurt his feelings when she insults him? Is this the norm of ITV or are the CVs trying to send a message about the people in India?

I know Rishita does the same thing but I also know that she is rich and spoiled and like Gaumbi said, uski zubaan mein wahi hota hai jo uski dil mein hai. But that doesn't mean everyone has to be that way, right? Or am I the dumb one, for trying to find logic in an ITV show?

Does she think she has the right to express out loud whatever comes to her mind because it was one of the things she and Raavi used to do when they were younger?

Someone please explain......

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: reginalsecret

I don't understand what the CVs want or are trying to prove. I mean, I know this track is about Shiva's insecurity but is blatant, atrocious disrespect and disregard for a person's feelings the only way they can go about it?

Is it a direct adaptation from the OG version? Or is it the CVs method of extracting maximum drama for TRPs? I am actually curious.

I mean, I understand that as Raavi's friend, she (the girl in the precap) is genuinely concerned for her well-being but isn't there a more subtle way to go about it? I am sure most 10 year-olds I know have more subtlety and compassion than that girl, lol.

Or does she think that just because he wears clothes he is comfortable in, she won't hurt his feelings when she insults him? Is this the norm of ITV or are the CVs trying to send a message about the people in India?

I know Rishita does the same thing but I also know that she is rich and spoiled and like Gaumbi said, uski zubaan mein wahi hota hai jo uski dil mein hai. But that doesn't mean everyone has to be that way, right? Or am I the dumb one, for trying to find logic in an ITV show?

Does she think she has the right to express out loud whatever comes to her mind because it was one of the things she and Raavi used to do when they were younger?

Someone please explain......

Alright.

Well, look don't think that you are dumb if you are looking for logic, its only natural to expect that. But yes, ITV does seem to like illogical things.

Coming to you question, its both true and untrue. You are right most people won't outrightly express whatever comes to their mind in such harsh language.


But its absolutely true that these things do happen in reality. That girl's behavior, if we talk about probability, would be uncommon, but still not impossible. I've seen such rude people first-hand.

I mean, sometimes even tweens get bullied at schools, so such people definitely do exist!


India is a place where a b.tech from iit and mba from iim is considered the prime definition of success. People who are academically not gifted, are insulted, especially in marriage scenario, boys more than girls. Since this society has a very prejudiced image that the man is "breadwinner" (Not just India, lots of other places as well)

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: reginalsecret

I don't understand what the CVs want or are trying to prove. I mean, I know this track is about Shiva's insecurity but is blatant, atrocious disrespect and disregard for a person's feelings the only way they can go about it?

Is it a direct adaptation from the OG version? Or is it the CVs method of extracting maximum drama for TRPs? I am actually curious.

I mean, I understand that as Raavi's friend, she (the girl in the precap) is genuinely concerned for her well-being but isn't there a more subtle way to go about it? I am sure most 10 year-olds I know have more subtlety and compassion than that girl, lol.

Or does she think that just because he wears clothes he is comfortable in, she won't hurt his feelings when she insults him? Is this the norm of ITV or are the CVs trying to send a message about the people in India?

I know Rishita does the same thing but I also know that she is rich and spoiled and like Gaumbi said, uski zubaan mein wahi hota hai jo uski dil mein hai. But that doesn't mean everyone has to be that way, right? Or am I the dumb one, for trying to find logic in an ITV show?

Does she think she has the right to express out loud whatever comes to her mind because it was one of the things she and Raavi used to do when they were younger?

Someone please explain......

This scene is shown in OG and in other adaptations too and in the same way too....yes this was outright rude....but this is to act as a build up for shiva's ultimate break down(though there has to be other ways)....he wudnt just brk by seeing the diary as he already know abt raavi-dev history...but this gal's comment and the diary will be do it....i know no reasons can justify that gal's comments....this will hopefully purgate both shiva-raavi and they will weather the storm together....

Underline: Sadly many ppl are like that and some wud even voice it out😒

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Right... well, thanks for replying!

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Originally posted by: hedwig_potter

Alright.

Well, look don't think that you are dumb if you are looking for logic, its only natural to expect that. But yes, ITV does seem to like illogical things.

Coming to you question, its both true and untrue. You are right most people won't outrightly express whatever comes to their mind in such harsh language.


But its absolutely true that these things do happen in reality. That girl's behavior, if we talk about probability, would be uncommon, but still not impossible. I've seen such rude people first-hand.

I mean, sometimes even tweens get bullied at schools, so such people definitely do exist!


India is a place where a b.tech from iit and mba from iim is considered the prime definition of success. People who are academically not gifted, are insulted, especially in marriage scenario, boys more than girls. Since this society has a very prejudiced image that the man is "breadwinner" (Not just India, lots of other places as well)

Underline: Agree💯.... I have faced it myself...iam a literature graduate and most of my family went for science.... some had asked my parents if iam not that gud at studies while they were gud at it and even told me maa baap ka naam kharaab math karnathankfully my parents are super supportive....and one of my relatives asked me "why wud u take lit. and not chem or phy if u are interested only in degree"....some even had the audacity to ask me whether iam only interested in Shaadi, so they thought mein namesake ki koi degree le rahi hoon...these talks sometimes had made me regret my choice though i hv enjoyed my subject and clg...this is not restricted to studies it hapns while they look at our physical attributes... They voice it out most arrogantly...again me being short and wheatish complexion never helped there tooo....kab badlegaa log....

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: reginalsecret

I don't understand what the CVs want or are trying to prove. I mean, I know this track is about Shiva's insecurity but is blatant, atrocious disrespect and disregard for a person's feelings the only way they can go about it?

Is it a direct adaptation from the OG version? Or is it the CVs method of extracting maximum drama for TRPs? I am actually curious.

I mean, I understand that as Raavi's friend, she (the girl in the precap) is genuinely concerned for her well-being but isn't there a more subtle way to go about it? I am sure most 10 year-olds I know have more subtlety and compassion than that girl, lol.

Or does she think that just because he wears clothes he is comfortable in, she won't hurt his feelings when she insults him? Is this the norm of ITV or are the CVs trying to send a message about the people in India?

I know Rishita does the same thing but I also know that she is rich and spoiled and like Gaumbi said, uski zubaan mein wahi hota hai jo uski dil mein hai. But that doesn't mean everyone has to be that way, right? Or am I the dumb one, for trying to find logic in an ITV show?

Does she think she has the right to express out loud whatever comes to her mind because it was one of the things she and Raavi used to do when they were younger?

Someone please explain......


From my experience, sometimes shows and stage plays need to exaggerate scenes in order to move a plotline. Books don't need this as the author can convey thoughts through writing; however, when character dialogues are the primary way the audience can receive information, movies/plays dramatize scenes by having characters "shout" dialogues in the middle of the road. Instead of have the friend "shout," they could've tastefully done the scene by Shiva accidentally overhearing the friend when he comes back to get Raavi. So I agree with you on that point!


As for blatant, atrocious disrespect/disregard, I've seen so much bullying (direct and indirect) that this track is very realistic (at least personally). Though everyone on the forum loves Shiva, and it helps that KD is an attractive man, we really need to remember that Shiva is not some good-looking, charming, sophisticated man that everyone is crazy about. He is described to be "dirty" and "smelly" and he isn't supposed to be a good-looking guy. KD's handsomeness kind of detracts from everything, but the whole point of Shiva and Raavi's relationship is that a person is worth more than their outside appearance and qualifications. Shiva isn't the best looking man, he isn't the most well-educated, and he certainly isn't someone you want to cross when he is angry, yet, even with all his flaws, he is perfect for Raavi.


Is that friend being rude? Certainly. Should she have done it in the middle of the road like that? Definitely not. Could the CVs have picked another track to show this insecurity? They could have, but I also think it's important to know that we sometimes make mistakes without knowing it. Raavi and the said friend probably made fun of Shiva multiple times while growing up. I don't think the friend had true ill intent, it was more of disbelief that Raavi would end up marrying the guy who she made fun of for being "smelly," "dirty," and "uneducated." Plus, they probably bashed him so many times, that she didn't realize that she now needed to filter her thoughts.


Shiva needs to grow up, and Raavi also needs to grow up. They committed multiple mistakes. Shiva with his manhandling and Raavi with her actions of bullying Shiva with friends (until I see Shiva's friend acknowledging that Shiva did the same of making fun of Raavi in front of friends, I have to say that this is a mistake that Raavi needs to own up to).

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Originally posted by: Popzzzz

Underline: Agree💯.... I have faced it myself...iam a literature graduate and most of my family went for science.... some had asked my parents if iam not that gud at studies while they were gud at it and even told me maa baap ka naam kharaab math karnathankfully my parents are super supportive....and one of my relatives asked me "why wud u take lit. and not chem or phy if u are interested only in degree"....some even had the audacity to ask me whether iam only interested in Shaadi, so they thought mein namesake ki koi degree le rahi hoon...these talks sometimes had made me regret my choice though i hv enjoyed my subject and clg...this is not restricted to studies it hapns while they look at our physical attributes... They voice it out most arrogantly...again me being short and wheatish complexion never helped there tooo....kab badlegaa log....

Omg, I am really sorry to hear that

People are going to say one thing or the other, don't let it get to you. As long as you are happy and enjoying your life, are satisfied with it, let people say what they want to say. Glad to know your parents are supportive. I hope you are doing well❤️🤗

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Originally posted by: hedwig_potter

Omg, I am really sorry to hear that

People are going to say one thing or the other, don't let it get to you. As long as you are happy and enjoying your life, are satisfied with it, let people say what they want to say. Glad to know your parents are supportive. I hope you are doing well❤️🤗

Iam good❤️....as we know if parents are supportive things are simple👍🏼...and Thank you soo much🤗

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Originally posted by: Popzzzz

Underline: Agree💯.... I have faced it myself...iam a literature graduate and most of my family went for science.... some had asked my parents if iam not that gud at studies while they were gud at it and even told me maa baap ka naam kharaab math karnathankfully my parents are super supportive....and one of my relatives asked me "why wud u take lit. and not chem or phy if u are interested only in degree"....some even had the audacity to ask me whether iam only interested in Shaadi, so they thought mein namesake ki koi degree le rahi hoon...these talks sometimes had made me regret my choice though i hv enjoyed my subject and clg...this is not restricted to studies it hapns while they look at our physical attributes... They voice it out most arrogantly...again me being short and wheatish complexion never helped there tooo....kab badlegaa log....

As a wheatish complexioned Doctor let me tell you - log kisi bhi cheez se kush nahin honge.

They will always find a fault in you - even if you are the smartest person alive on earth. You will always be too fat/too thin , too dark, too bold, too mouthy etc etc.

Solution - Baad mein jayein log aur unki har jaga adi hui naak.

If the last few years have taught me anything it’s that - you do get to cut off people that don’t serve anything but toxicity into your lives.

Love your body, flaunt your skin, thank your body for getting you through a deadly pandemic, love that brilliant brain of yours. Get help if you struggle with mental health, I do. Eat for your hunger, your body and brain needs food. Move your body more.

Be so in love with yourself that when someone else loves you it’s just adding more love , not needing love.

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