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Would Duryodhan have remained friends w/ Karna had his secret been out

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sailuja

@sailuja

Sparkler

Posted: 11 years ago

#81

finally today episode jkarna too participated in diz cruel disrobing incident.. but his screen space is very low in vastraharan 😔

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sailuja

@sailuja

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Posted: 11 years ago

#82

wat do guys think about karna' participated in VH . toda episode 😕.. becoz his screen space is ver low in starbarth Vastraharan . actually he doesn't know durydhona cruel plan so in today episode he came after dury' shakuni and dhussan conversation .. but if actually he will know dury's bloody plan definately he would have not allowed to do adharma.. before in front of sabha . my view .. 😉

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sailuja

@sailuja

Sparkler

Posted: 11 years ago

#83

Originally posted by: Rorschach

Agreed,

Justifying a wrong by saying one action was less insulting and other was more is quite horrible.

An insult is insult, what is less and more there?

Both actions are pathetic and horrible in nature, we just cant side by one because we are women and can relate to Draupadi'plight more.

absolute right .. both side are very wrong really .. not only we can ' stand only one side in vatrahanra as womens for karna.. both side are really wrong but karna alsoparticipate with his friend cruel plan without knowing him.. in strabarth but i can say one thing all are cuprit including even pandavas also participated in drupadi disorbing 😭 only helped krishna who save druapadi😃 .

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Sabhayata

@Sabhayata

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+ 4

Posted: 11 years ago

#84

Seems like karna is only meant to be Dury's bodyguard hope he atleast gets some dialogues in vastraharan episodes

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sailuja

@sailuja

Sparkler

Posted: 11 years ago

#85

Originally posted by: Sabhayata
Seems like karna is only meant to be Dury's bodyguard hope he atleast gets some dialogues in vastraharan episodes

ya maybe i think he doesn't know dury eveil plan.. maybe diz news he can be shocked in front of sabha .. ater hearing durpadi matter 😛😲 in starbarth

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sailuja

@sailuja

Sparkler

Posted: 11 years ago

#86

karna's final meeting with bhisma before war

The fall of Bheeshma affects Karna. He feels afraid, runs to meet the god-like great man, lying on his death bed, with his eyes closed! Overcome with emotion the teary eyed Karna speaks, 'Kurushreshta! It is Radheya! The man you hated, for no fault of mine, as soon as you set your eyes on me'.

Bheeshma hears him, opens his eyes with difficulty and looks at Karna. He then sends his attendants away, hugs Karna, like a father would hug his son, with his arm around him.'Come my dear opponent, if you had not come to visit me now, it would not have been praiseworthy. You are not a Radheya, you are a Kaunteya. I have no hatred for you child, I spoke to you harshly to bring down your ego and pride. I feel that you hate pandavas without reason. It is the reason why I spoke to you harshly. I am aware of your great courage and your limitless generosity. You are like a god. There are not many like you. You are equal to Arjuna and Krishna in your ability. There is no anger in me now. Man cannot go against the will of gods. Pandavas are your brothers. If you want to make me happy, go and join your brothers. Let the enmity die with me, let all the kings live happily.

Karna replies, 'Grandfather, I know that I am a kaunteya. But when Kunti did not want me and let go of me, a suta brought me up! Duryodhana made me a rich man. I cannot turn these facts into lies. I have pledged my body, my wealth, my reputation and everything else to Duryodhana. Under his shelter, I have provoked pandavas. What is required to be done cannot be changed by anyone. Who has the ability to change god's will? It is the time for destruction of the world. You have seen signs of this, and also spoke about it in the sabha.'

'I know that pandavas and Vasudeva are invincible. The reason why I am enthused to fight them. If you consent with love and affection, I believe I can fight them. If I have spoken ill of you out of anger or misbehaved, please forgive me.'

Bheeshma replies, 'Karna! If you are unable to control your intense enmity, I consent! Fight expecting to go to the heaven of the brave. Give up your anger and sorrow and perform the duties of a khsatriya well and achieve a happy state of mind. Try your best to be virtuous, your wishes will come true. Depend on your strength and bravery, forsake arrogance. There is no better dharma for a khsatriya than to fight in a war. I tried my best for peace, but could not succeed. The victory will be for those who have dharma with them.' Karna salutes Bheeshma and goes to meet Duryodhana.😃

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Radha Chatterjee

@RoseWine

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

#87

I also believe the whole point was to break Karna emotionally that's why Both Krishna and Bheeshma waited to tell him. It angers me actually; he would have died anyway with the curse of Parusharam! It really didn't matter... kavaach and kundal were taken away as well.

Why did they have to tell him??? He fought on Duryodhan's side. He was also bound by an oath just like Bheeshma. But maybe at this specific point he was feeling relieved that his miseries would soon be over.

The scene was shown very well in the BR Chopra version. Will have to wait and see what StaraBharat shows.

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Apu

@butterturnips

Rocker

Posted: 11 years ago

#88

Karna getting rejected on the basis of caste in swyamvara in the entire Sabha is an Insult. The word 'sutaputra' is not a slang. Karna didn't have any problem when someone called him a Sutaputra. See, in today's generation the lower caste people are known as "Dom" "Chamaar" in simple language. It is not a cheap word but if someone calls you "Dom" chamaar in front of many people, then it definitely feels insulting just like an abuse.

So, Karna used the word "Unchaste" and not wh**e. Later people began to call and changed this unchaste into wh**e. The original Sanskrit word was "Varaangana" which has been translated into "Unchaste" by KMG. Unchaste means characterless and not prostitute but then its okay, let it be prostitute because Karna has to be denigrated.

So if Unchaste can be changed into a wh**e then, Sutaputra term can be changed into "Dom" "Chamaar" so Karna was called a "Dom" "Chamaar" in the entire assembly which sounds offensive. If I say "Mujhe kisi Dom Chamaar se shaadi nahi karni" even in a polite way then also, it does sound insulting. Now, you can imagine how Karna must have felt at that time when he was called a Sutaputra in the entire Sabha where Kings and principled people were present.

Edited by candidfrisky - 11 years ago