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Posted: 11 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Ddiala

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3rd, the son begotten upon one's wife by a person for pecuniary consideration;


Disky - I dint understand the 3rd type.. If anyone can enlighten.. request to do so ⭐️



The word pecuniary of course relates to money.

The husband of the woman will pay another man some money for co-habiting with his wife and begetting a son.

2nd type refers to begetting a son out of kindness and the 3rd type is paying money.


Welcome to be corrected


Edited by CapeBuffalo - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Dono parshurama ke students the ... Guru bhais.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I thought of adding that both were the students of Parshurama but that really isn't a similarity because taking this thing in mind
Arjuna and Duryodhana also had the same guru that doesn't mean they were similar.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#14
also,karna and bheeshma both kept their words till their last breath.they became loyal servants of the kingdom of which,they were suppose to be king.karna kept the word given to his biological mother to always have 5 sons and never 6 .bheeshma kept his brahmacharya till he died.Also krishna himself valued bheeshma's word more than his own,so much so,that he broke his own promise to not wield a weapon in the war to fulfill bheeshma's word.
Edited by kingkane - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Karna is definitely a great warrior but all through his life he wanted to prove himself superior to arjuna and in this battle of his egoism and inferiority he has fallen down before dharma but Bheeshma is the superior most in all characters to karna..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ddiala

Ok now got it clarified.. Karna indeed is the legal heir of Hastinapur throne.. If it were not true neither Krishna would have offered it nor Karna would have not been confident that Yudishtar would transfer it to him..


And to confirm this.. Here is what Pandu says to Kunti before he requests her to get a son of type 2..

Six types of sons that are Heirs

1st, the son begotten by one's own self upon his wedded wife;
2nd, the son begotten upon one's wife by an accomplished person from motives of kindness;
3rd, the son begotten upon one's wife by a person for pecuniary consideration;
4th,the son begotten upon the wife after the husband's death;
5th, the maiden-born son;
6th, the son born of an unchaste wife;

Six types of sons that are not Heirs but Kins

7th, the son given;
8th, the son bought for a consideration;
9th, the son self-given;
10th, the son received with a pregnant bride;
11th, the brother's son;
12th, the son begotten upon a wife of lower caste.

Disky - I dint understand the 3rd type.. If anyone can enlighten.. request to do so ⭐️



I doubted this, so checked on what Pandu told Kunti. It does indeed beg the question of why Kunti didn't mention Karna to him.

"Vaisampayana continued, 'Hearing these words of the ascetics, Pandu, remembering the loss of his procreative powers owing to the curse of the deer, began to reflect deeply. And calling his wedded wife the excellent Kunti, unto him, he told her in private, 'Strive thou to raise offspring at this time of distress. The wise expounders of the eternal religion declare that a son, O Kunti, is the cause of virtuous fame in the three worlds. It is said that sacrifices, charitable gifts, ascetic penances, and vows observed most carefully, do not confer religious merit on a sonless man. O thou of sweet smiles, knowing all this, I am certain that as I am sonless, I shall not obtain regions of true felicity. O timid one, wretch that I was and addicted to cruel deeds, as a consequence of the polluted life I led, my power of procreation hath been destroyed by the curse of the deer. The religious institutes mention six kinds of sons that are heirs and kinsmen, and six other kinds that are not heirs but kinsmen. I shall speak of them presently. O Pritha, listen to me. They are: 1st, the son begotten by one's own self upon his wedded wife; 2nd, the son begotten upon one's wife by an accomplished person from motives of kindness; 3rd, the son begotten upon one's wife by a person for pecuniary consideration; 4th, the son begotten upon the wife after the husband's death; 5th, the maiden-born son; 6th, the son born of an unchaste wife; 7th, the son given; 8th, the son bought for a consideration; 9th, the son self-given; 10th, the son received with a pregnant bride; 11th, the brother's son; and 12th, the son begotten upon a wife of lower caste. On failure of offspring of a prior class, the mother should desire to have offspring of the next class. In times of distress, men solicit offspring from accomplished younger brothers. The self-born Manu hath said that men failing to have legitimate offspring of their own may have offspring begotten upon their wives by others, for sons confer the highest religious merit.

Edited by .Vrish. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: rupad

Karna is definitely a great warrior but all through his life he wanted to prove himself superior to arjuna and in this battle of his egoism and inferiority he has fallen down before dharma but Bheeshma is the superior most in all characters to karna..

Agreed.

Btw, Karna wasn't a servant of the kingdom, only Bheeshma was.

Karna was the king of Anga and a loyal friend of Duryodhana. This doesn't make him a servant.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Vrish.



I doubted this, so checked on what Pandu told Kunti. It does indeed beg the question of why Kunti didn't mention Karna to him.



Yes it does.. Do we find anywhere that Kunti ever remembered Karna before she sees him? If not, there are chances that she assumed him to be dead.. or she felt its impossible to trace him back..

with respect to this, don't you feel that SP's interpretation is fair enough? that Kunti wanted to tell but Pandu din't bother to listen? 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#19
Totally agree with u dear Both were unmatched warriors
But Adharam Let them down 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Shruti

One more similarity, both were the students of Lord Parashuram.

Exactly..😊

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