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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

Leela.


Liked this line very much...

current scenario of reconciliation-before-renunciation


Agree. All of it.

You know what! What if this renunciation track just becomes a faux paus contrary to our fears. Because...shameless me...I am just mentally teasing RK ever since he himself on path of Let me fix everything for you Madhu and then I am gonna take you away. I am like...Kahaan bhai...you need to do a 7 phera marriage first. so my question is...Is it going to be a simple affair or a pompous affair ? And then with Trishna movie launch and Shammu-Padmini marriage, its going to be terribly long time before he can go somewhere. I guess it is something like Vidya Balan and Siddharth Roy Kapur waiting first for his divorce to come through and then her to finish her projects...like Saif Ali Khan and kareena trying to fix themselves...it shall take time for these big honchos to leave everything.

I just repeatedly keep reminding myself as...beta RK, laga reh. Koshish poori hono chahiye. Baaki Sab bhagwaan bharose chod. 😆 because his plan may turn out to be like "Man Proposes God Disposes"

can't help it my dear!! Sorry. I didn't want to make light of it. But the track always makes me think so.

Absolutely superb and in such gorgeous depth, Shri.⭐️👏
Glad you liked the essay.😳 Thanks so much for taking the time and trouble to respond at such length.😃
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ankita24

wow Leelaa..you are just so amazing with your choice of words...whether it comes to title or content everything just so perfect...very nicely written..
its my pleasure to read your posts...superbbb👏

Thanks so very much for such a hugely generous compliment, Ankita.😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ...RamonaG...

beautiful post Leela 👍🏼

Thanks very much, Ramona.😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Thanks a ton.😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
#45
Thanks a ton.😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: shamon

dats a beautiful post leela...

Thanks so much, Sam.😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: leelaa9

'Rishbala - Love_ focus and periphery... each to their own, and yet cleaving to form one formidable whole.'

It is increasingly clear that in the current scenario of reconciliation-before-renunciation, RK and Madhu are inadvertently plunging ahead on paths that inherently clash.😳😕

RK is keeping in mind Madhu's assurance that once her concerns about her family and his mother are sorted, Madhu will leave everything and come away with him.

It was a reasonably definitive certainty that RK wasn't bluffing to test Madhu when he first asked her to come away with him, leaving everything behind.

He tends not to think of practicalities except when they serve him.

Contracts, everything else - he would find a way to deal with those situations or not.

But after he asked Madhu to go with him, and she agreed, and if he then decides not to go, it would always be a Damoclean sword hanging over their relationship and at the back of his unfortunately not arrogantly self-assured enough mind that what if *she* was bluffing.😕

What if she didn't actually intend to leave wealth and fortune for him?

What if she - like everyone else - valued him only for what he could give her?

This is a man who is self-made.😊

His having become a star is for him as much his father's dream as his own.

But the need to have at least one relationship that he can be assured of - at least *one* person that loves him without benefiting monetarily from being associated with him - is perhaps far greater than the profession he loves.😳

RK did not have someone altruistically helping him in a bid at stardom, and yet he succeeded.😊

He will succeed almost certainly at whatever purpose he obsessively sets himself, though the obsessive edge that bitterness gives him may be dulled for stretches of happy moments in his and Madhu's life.

Strange that happiness disarms him, and the four 'relatives'🤢 at his home would shamelessly assert authority over him if he ever sets his harshness aside.

He can afford to become mild and accepting to his mother only now that he does not intend to be around for much longer for her to plead with or berate him on behalf of the three leeches.

RK is almost in haste right now to deal with *all* of Madhu's concerns so that she need not look back once they leave.

The faster everything is wrapped up and Madhu is pleased at the way events have developed, the sooner he and she can be free of all these entanglements and concerns. They can then turn their backs on all, walk away and start anew.😳😕

For RK, everything else - beyond Madhu as a part of his life - is peripheral, to be dealt with or ignored at will.😳

But Madhu cannot react on such a level except when she sees a potential threat against RK.😳

She *cannot* function on that level constantly *without* such a motivation.😕😳

As always distracted by the peripheral (except when her focus - her husband - is in peril😳), Madhu is working on reconciling mother and son in a foggy dreamworld.😕

She told her husband she would leave with him, but has perhaps not truly comprehended the finality he intends for all their other relationships and associations.

She has also not considered that reuniting RK with his mother serves no emotional benefit, at least of the sort Madhu has in mind, if RK intends to conduct reconciliation rather like a deathbed forgiving - never going to have any chance to ever again hurt or be hurt by that person, so might as well accept and admit the love one does feel for that person.

Grievances are set aside relatively easily if one believes all interaction is coming to a close.

Where one might otherwise take years longer or even a lifetime to forgive, there forgiveness and reconciliation can be effected fairly soon if a permanent parting - living or dead - is on the cards.

RK may be reasonably sure that his mother will not leave her wonderful second family behind to accompany him and his wife away from the life of rich comfort she is so attached to. Of course, there might a miracle and Radha might be willing to come away with the couple.

Madhu is trying to get RK to reconcile with his mother without realizing that it has become just another milestone he wants to be done with.

Years of bitterness, and he is covering it all in steps so staggeringly huge it's frightening in his sheer focus that is becoming obvious.

Once before, Madhu had been his purpose, and all else was as nothing.

Now again, Madhu is his purpose, albeit in a different light. And again, nothing else matters.

He is not trying to heal or deal with years of hurt and bitterness, or his mother's weakness and disloyalty.

His mother loves him, he loves her.

He accepts that, and sets aside everything else as irrelevant because once he leaves, Radha will only be a memory.

Why not bookend that memory on a pleasant note?

So he'll take whatever steps vis-a-vis Radha are pleasing to Madhu, even if those steps would have been ruinously gullible if he intended to stick around.

He would not dare be so amnesiac about the Bhatias' very centralized existence in his mother's life unless he intended himself to be removed from all four of them.

He truly respects and admires Shamsher and Padmini as parental figures. And he has never ceased to love his mother despite his contempt for her fickleness.

But none of these people figure in the life he intends to create with Madhu.

He can afford to finally soften towards his mother and accept her now as it's just a matter of a while until he walks away from Radha permanently.

Why part with bitter feelings if you never intend to see the other person again?

He can benefit by gaining emotional closure in giving his mother overt affection and regard.

The sort of maternal power he has not trusted her with for years, he can *now* because he does not intend to be around for much longer that she might exert that power.

Whether he chooses to make arrangements to maintain Radha in luxury after his leaving - and the extent of such arrangements - is another point that he can wrap up.

He does not appear to be concerned with or looking for lasting emotional security for his mother. She is too fickle and attached to far too many transient and appearance elements for any such arrangements to serve any purpose.

But Shamsher and Padmini have earned RK's respect on precisely those foundations that his mother is wholly lacking in.

And so, it is for *them* that he will go the extra mile.

For the parental figures he does untaintedly respect, RK *would* wish to provide emotional security to last in his and Madhu's absence.

He can do so best by providing social and legal sanction for them to be there for each other even more so than they have been for two decades already.

As for Madhu perhaps objecting... The girl will assuredly come round very soon.😊

If she could not forgive her adored and very repentant father until her husband *persuaded* her to, then I'm not entirely sure what subject RK might actually exert himself to persuade her about and *not* succeed.😕😳

Her parents' future happiness seems unlikely to be that breaking-point subject.😊

Madhu may rage in defence of her parents not needing social sanction, but she *will* come round.

Madhu embodies the complete and utter demolishing of the general myth that love weakens.😃😳

This is the girl who would never raise her voice for her own sake if it went against social etiquette and mores to do so, who would go off on idealistic crusades for people she did not know, and deprioritized the feelings and wellbeing of the people she loved for right and just cause.

And she has proven time and again now that her ability to deprioritize in that way was only because love had not yet assumed the stature of obsession or worship for her.😕😳

She *thought* she worshipped her mother and foster father. She was wrong.😊

She idolized them, and has still not consciously understood the difference now that she *has* indeed crossed the line between idolizing love and worshipful love.😳

She has set aside any wrongs done by RK, to the point of not even considering them valid motivation to any degree for harm *to* him, even when the person harming him had suffered great harm as well.

If she believes him hurt, nothing less than his himself interceding on the person responsible's behalf can get her to forgive.😊

Fair? No. But fair would not be a fraction as magnificent as the unreasonable passionate reactions this couple manage, to create such a fabulous emotional backdrop with.

During the Rishbala song for RK's first love-confession scene by the roadside, RK's flashbacks were of both unpleasant (she slapping him) and pleasant (she saving him from the falling light) memories of him and Madhu, while Madhu's flashbacks were only of RK getting hurt and RK being her knight in shining armour.😳

Perhaps an indication that *she* has absolutely set aside any bygones that reflect ill on him as bygones, not even wishing to think of them.😳

Whereas RK remembers all, and yet is unwavering in the fierceness of both his love and junoon, unmoved for good or ill by memories without a new catalyst situation.😳

For both Madhu and RK, memories - especially shared of them together through so many tempestuous stages - are dealt with in different ways, and yet the result works out much the same, heedless of variables at the final count.

Neither Madhu nor RK are reasonable creatures, sensible and balanced.😳

They are flawed both on surface and core albeit each in very different ways.

Discomfiture or hurt to one may stand unattended by the other only so long as they remain unaware.

And when the other's every hurt carves on one's heart worse than one's own pain, then even belatedly it is doctored better than most might dream.😳

These two - RK and Madhu - bound each by ishq *and* junoon, fit together as if by invisible hinges, their every flaw and strength blending and complementing to create a relationship apparently fragile in the most foolish ways, and yet unyielding and steadfast at the core.



Beautiful post Leela 👏 so very insightful ... as always 😊
Especially Loved d portions in bold ⭐️

Btw, when you talked about RK's eagerness to turn his back on all, n walk away n start anew ... I was reminded of a scene from one of my all-time favorite movies - 'Pyasaa' ...
It is when, d protagonist Vijay, a struggling poet, sick of all d hypocrisies around him, finally declines to d world that he is Vijay , n walks away with d prostitute Gulabo - leaving behind d trappings of d material world ...
His last offering to d grasping n greedy world being ...
Yeh mahalon yeh taqhton yeh taazon ki duniyaa
Yeh Insaan ke dushman samaajon ki duniya
Yeh daulat ke bhukhe riwaazon ki duniyaa
Yeh duniyaa agar mil bhi jaye toh kyaa hai ...


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Great post ! You've delved so deeply and analyzed the characters so well ! Thanks
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: angelanki

Leela.., very beautifully written..!! loved it!!

Thanks so very much, Anki.😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Thanks a ton, Tulika.😳

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