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Posted: 12 years ago
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Julez...

Read you post now... And i wouldn't say i completely agree to you nor do i say i completely disagree.. I guess enough have been said (probably) cause i did not go through all the replies.. 😊 (for keeping my pressure in limits 😆)

However would just add my bits on each character (warning may be a bit long and boring so read at your own convenience 😆)

Madhu and RK: Madhu seems to be impulsive, stubborn yet softhearted ... Lets not forget she had a soft corner for Mukund since he was just a struggler, fighting with his own insecurities and she decided to help him... a complete stranger... So her having a soft corner for RK (her husband) knowing all about his sufferings in the past are definitely traits in line with her character... Here it seems, she has forgotten her own life not completely though (i say this cause of her confessions with Padmini and Padmini did calm her down) to save his... and has definitely developed a liking for RK... as she has seen his real self under the facade of the beast he tries to project himself as... And so has RK forgotten his promise to himself of making her suffer for the next 40 years... They both seem now to be lost in a world of their own... where they have seen the caring of the other... Where both feel for each other but guess cannot put a name to it yet... Both are protective and kind of possessive for each other... RK's saree utaro aandolan where i guess he is trying to save Madhu from Dipz ka humiliation drama and Madhu's giving back to Dipz... apne devar ko khilana dialogue or i'm the wife shows it all.

But i guess this Mallick as a murderer track might just jolt them both and bring them back to reality again!!! So may be we may see Madhu's delimma as well as RK's now... But i agree they should have shown more of Madhu's self thoughts and talks where the viewers could connect to what she feels...

Whether Madhu supports Mallick or goes against him is yet to be seen.. So i cannot take a call on it yet... It would all depend on what all information is exposed to her.. What are the circumstances and situations then... Whether she knows the entire truth or makes judgement on some half information...I guess we would just have to wait and watch...

About Padmini: I guess after staying with a person like Balraj, RK will definintely be a saint to her where she has seen his soft side on ocassions pertaining to both Malik and Madhu... I guess she has been one of the most grounded and dignified characters of the show. (in my opinion 😳 )

And Malik: He is impulsive and we know that... I agree his actions and intentions are justified but in no way right... He is wrong and whatever the reasons it does not give him any right to kill a person... But maybe it was needed to bring the Madhu and RK back to square one... It would be a test specially for Madhu cause RK it seems has been through enough of this family chaos in his life so it might not affect him much... but the distance with Madhu would..

Radhaji and RK's family: I would only state that such characters are required for TRP public... My only hope is Dipz who seems to be smart but yet is outsmarted by RK every time... (and i enjoy that for somehow she ends up being a reverse cupid for RK and Madhu) I hope they come a bit above the kitchen politics and utilize her well..

But yes in this entire thing the original concept of Bollywood and Madhu being an actress is lost somewhere... However i hope the makers have not forgotten it completely... For that seems to be the main plot of the story... And since it is the main plot, I guess the team is trying to approach it slowly but steadily...

So i feel its a gradual progress... May be a bit dragging at times... But but still it is progressing... The team is trying to balance it well... though they end up dragging or taking cliched routes at times but lets give them the benefit of doubt 😃 for they too have lots of people to please 😳


Edited by Azmatazz - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: _innocent_

Thank you. Thats what am saying! Maybe it didnt come across too well.😆 But yaar, even RK's dialogue has lost that punch it had initially! I want that person who wrote his dialogues back. and i fail to understand why he doesnt bajaO Deepali in the open in front of her husband. That would have been more like RK.
I find his dialogues good (obviously the previous ones were like lot better). But the actors nowadays look bored and they are not to be blamed either😆 Saurabh Tiwary in an attempt to blend family drama and love story has failed miserably. All I can see is family drama and no love story🥱

@Pink - I think he doesn't bajao her openly because in relation she is his BHABHI (elder bro's wife). So he respects that relation atleast, if not her.
@Red...Yesssh, had they done that the sari politics would have made much more sense to me. I think they are being lenient because there is no trps! I want the old RK back, and a rebirth of MB😆

I guess MB was always like this only😕 Even when Mukund's aayi used to insult Paddy, Shammu, MB and Shammu-Paddy's relation, she never used to intrude. She used to stand in a corner and cry. Atleast now she retaliates. And yesterday toh RK didn't even misbehave. Rather he offered aarti to Paddy and Shammu in the most respectable manner.

Edited by chakku_chudail - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: _innocent_

Urvi! Firstly thanks for commenting! Honestly i didnt read through all your answers but i appreciate you taking time and energy to comment here. 😃

If people love seeing sari politics, thats good for them, but its not my cup of tea, as i already stated! so if i have an issue, i ought to quit, thats what you are saying right? You too had an option not to reply to my post, but hey! You did! So maybe you ought to practice what you are preaching too?😕 Not being rude, but i have always praised this show when it was required, but do not expect me to be liking every episodes despite clear indications that its going nowhere.
Even RK's character, one of the best on TV so far, has been shown to take a backseat when Deepali keeps chanting her nonsense; when RK is a *i take no nonsense kinda man* (and also his dialogues havent had that punch that it did for a couple of months- they need to bring that guy back) And Mb, her character hasnt developed at all! Her story with Mukund i never understood till date, her sudden change in attitude towards RK made sense initially, but then i didnt quite understand the smile on her face when RK and Malik were together yesterday :S.. That irked me to a great extent, precisely why i made this post. Their feelings have been developing from the past 5 months you stated right?Really? maybe you are right me and you are watching the wrong show. I thought RK had a change of heart only when MB was stuck in that studio with him, was that 5months ago? 😕 And Mb has forgotten the nonsense her family endured because fo her. That sari drama was done to make Shammo more suspicious, and to think you know your parents are coming and that they are concerned for you, and to play on those emotions jsut because you want to satisfy your egos, is beyond my understanding (but hey, now am going to be told not to even think, because i dared utter something negative about the show.)
And, if you believed i bashed indirectly, then cant do much to avail your concern there. I mean its your assumptions hence feel free to make more of those.

Lol..if you had read through my reply you would have got atleast some answers but well may be you dnt have the time or you conveniently choose to only read what you would like to...that applies to the show as well. I am not going to again write an essay trying to make you understand the why's and what's...coz clearly it will be wasted again.
@Red - Did I tell you to not make a post?? You suggested the CVs to change the show name and my reply was to that and it was just an 'option' not even a suggestion. Now here's the suggetsion... If you cannot take any disagreement or diff of opinion to what you write please put that as disclaimer.
You are free to right anything negative about the show as is anyone else...I thought the same, that you have issues with the show and hence tried clearing... but my bad...your post was about something else altogether. All the best in watching whatever version of MB suits you.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Manonids

Is it u Jules !!!!😲😆 ..I agree episodes of past one week or so were dragged 🥱...But besides this, I guess they are doing fairly good job except some creative flaws in scenes ...Madhubala and RK are bound to fall in love with each other madly despite having every single reason to hate each other on earth😆...u cannot get logics in love as if why she forgot what RK has done with shamsher? ...having said that ..its not that she never thought about it ...she said that she feels as if she is ditching Malick, and her family by caring too much for RK in hospital but Padmini settled her down😆 ...so where is the question of her forgetting the past ????? I feel she felt at peace when she saw Shamsher blessing RK ...it was a soft moment for Madhu😊 where she saw an ideal situation in her life ..but I guess its too early for her to feel that way as storm is on its way...she is so much affected by RK past that she has almost forgotten her life ...but its temporary, they are going to be on hate-love track on and off ...😆...


I am already seeing forum getting divided in future...

Group 1- how can Madhu forget what RK did with her father/family ??? she is the worst daughter 😆
Group 2- how can MAdhu forget the moments she spent with RK??? where is her care for RK gone??? she doensnt deserve RK's love 😆

I want to make Group 3- Madhu leave both the men in ur life fighting and go on a holiday 😆

PS: If you cannot take this illogical love story, stop watching it 😆 ( I am not rude here ..its for peace of ur mind😆) Apologies if anybody felt bad 😊



Nids , Nicely written . I had same thing to say except Groups wala part . I again say i am happy with the way things are shaping . Also love can happen any moment , any time , & with any person .
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Even i also dont like saas bahu drama.,we all love rishbala.but one important thng is that madhu should not forget whatevr rk has done wid his family wid malik.
Edited by ANJALI_SAMARIYA - 12 years ago
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Chaku, Madhu character is always inconsistent ...like from.Mukund times...She used to go against RK to any extent but never said a word to Mukund's mom when she used to insult her parents...totally different people ...CVS compromises.on her character to show a track.or move forward a story ...that time too we had problem with the way she was behaving. I never liked her character before marriage because her character was never properly shown. She was a confused character for the viewers at that time too & now too...after RishBala's marrow she was fine..I liked her, but since recent episodes again she is becoming the same...look at RK. We know why he does this & that b/c CVS show us the reasons most of the time & not annoy the hell out of us...Madhu is shown different according to each different track..there is no connectivity ...Every time we discuss why she did that or how she can do this? Some are saying she is in love, some are saying she is only doing as a sympathy or guiltless PR whatever ...her emotions are not clear...if she is in love with rk, it makes sense but at the same time not thinking about Shamu doesn't make sense...CVS at least show us the reason why she all of the sudden acting like that...is it because of one night or as they said in an article its because of RK getting shoot... for a show to be successful, at least the main leads should have strong characters. But here except Madhu, Everyone seems to be fine..It's not some of us, but I have seen many comments on Facebook too like how they just can't seem to understand Madhu or relate to her most of the times...As for this track, honestly I am enjoying it. I know it's a bit family drama but as long as I get RishBala scenes, I am OK. Also, track will change but what about a character I.mean Madhu's...her character is very strong because the whole show revolves around her from the first episode, but th CVS are not presenting the character properly.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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i m loving the current track bollywood track ki itni jaldi nai hai mjhe
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@Urvi...I didnt have time to read any further when you started to give me *suggestions* Your whole *i guess i have permission to talk about Drishti Dhami* was again ignored, because i do not see from which angle i hold a personal power over DD, that i ought to prevent others from discussing her. (Those are the reasons i didnt bother reading your complete essay- so thank you for sparing me frm writing another one) -
And people should put a disclaimer on this forum, that one ought not to say anything *mean* about this show, because apppaaz that means one ought to switch to other channels.😕 Khairrr, i wont indulge in this matter any further. I have no issues with people who share a different POV as me, because thats the whole point of a debate or disucssion. But since your motive was more to taunt or mock me (thats how i perceived it, and sinc eu gave me permission to perceive things my own way(thanks for that) i ought to take that into consideration and live by it😃.
I made this post to vent out my anger at what was being shown; not to have people getting personal, especially since am refering to a fictional show!..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Azmatazz

Julez...


Read you post now... And i wouldn't say i completely agree to you nor do i say i completely disagree.. I guess enough have been said (probably) cause i did not go through all the replies.. 😊 (for keeping my pressure in limits 😆)

However would just add my bits on each character (warning may be a bit long and boring so read at your own convenience 😆)

Madhu and RK: Madhu seems to be impulsive, stubborn yet softhearted ... Lets not forget she had a soft corner for Mukund since he was just a struggler, fighting with his own insecurities and she decided to help him... a complete stranger... So her having a soft corner for RK (her husband) knowing all about his sufferings in the past are definitely traits in line with her character... Here it seems, she has forgotten her own life not completely though (i say this cause of her confessions with Padmini and Padmini did calm her down) to save his... and has definitely developed a liking for RK... as she has seen his real self under the facade of the beast he tries to project himself as... And so has RK forgotten his promise to himself of making her suffer for the next 40 years... They both seem now to be lost in a world of their own... where they have seen the caring of the other... Where both feel for each other but guess cannot put a name to it yet... Both are protective and kind of possessive for each other... RK's saree utaro aandolan where i guess he is trying to save Madhu from Dipz ka humiliation drama and Madhu's giving back to Dipz... apne devar ko khilana dialogue or i'm the wife shows it all.

But i guess this Mallick as a murderer track might just jolt them both and bring them back to reality again!!! So may be we may see Madhu's delimma as well as RK's now... But i agree they should have shown more of Madhu's self thoughts and talks where the viewers could connect to what she feels...

Whether Madhu supports Mallick or goes against him is yet to be seen.. So i cannot take a call on it yet... It would all depend on what all information is exposed to her.. What are the circumstances and situations then... Whether she knows the entire truth or makes judgement on some half information...I guess we would just have to wait and watch...

About Padmini: I guess after staying with a person like Balraj, RK will definintely be a saint to her where she has seen his soft side on ocassions pertaining to both Malik and Madhu... I guess she has been one of the most grounded and dignified characters of the show. (in my opinion 😳 )

And Malik: He is impulsive and we know that... I agree his actions and intentions are justified but in no way right... He is wrong and whatever the reasons it does not give him any right to kill a person... But maybe it was needed to bring the Madhu and RK back to square one... It would be a test specially for Madhu cause RK it seems has been through enough of this family chaos in his life so it might not affect him much... but the distance with Madhu would..

Radhaji and RK's family: I would only state that such characters are required for TRP public... My only hope is Dipz who seems to be smart but yet is outsmarted by RK every time... (and i enjoy that for somehow she ends up being a reverse cupid for RK and Madhu) I hope they come a bit above the kitchen politics and utilize her well..

But yes in this entire thing the original concept of Bollywood and Madhu being an actress is lost somewhere... However i hope the makers have not forgotten it completely... For that seems to be the main plot of the story... And since it is the main plot, I guess the team is trying to approach it slowly but steadily...

So i feel its a gradual progress... May be a bit dragging at times... But but still it is progressing... The team is trying to balance it well... though they end up dragging or taking cliched routes at times but lets give them the benefit of doubt 😃 for they too have lots of people to please 😳


Awesome jawab!..I agreee! I just it was getting a bit too much yaar, thats why i made this post!.. I dnt mind if the bollywood track doesnt start anytime soon, what i want to see is growth in MB's character.. thats all! And with that we can see gradual progress with the show aswell. As you stated, we need to have scenes where MB is self reflecting, for the audience to be able to connect with her. I have seen posts where members are saying they cant connect to MB's character, so surely that in itself speaks volume.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Ok I wanna ask Are u watching some other serial orw wht? If No thn ur whole view is pointless according 2 me.
Is it possible 2 walk evn b4 u r born?No na.In same way Madhu cant come become heroine lke tht as u all say.Oh yeh producer dekhega & will make Madhu heroine .Oh yeh director Madhu ko dekhega & she'll become heroine. LOL all r not born 2 make Madhu heroine.This is a show not a movie where wid in 3 hrs director have 2 show everything.

Really so u think RK is dumb 2 fight over sari?Come on 1st of all it's RK & he is always possessive abt things he lke & despise.Sari was never a thing tht bothered him it was person 2 whom this sari belong.As 4 Madhu wht do u think acting is? Talking,dancing & blah blah is wsht u call acting? Plz expression & showing feelings is called acting. Madhu character is asked 2 b mum thts y she is silent & whn the hell love happens wid logic.If u fall 4 a prsn wid logic thn it's not love,its ur selfishness.Love is selfess & illogical so y Madhu was smiling 2 c RK shuld not b ur question.She is becoming soft towards coz she has start seeing soft side of RK which u guys have surely failed 2 c.

Oh yes Shammu is doing grt by killing RK.He is 2 year baby na who cant understand or c.Padmani has told him so many times RK is not tht bad still he wnts 2 kill hi,Why whn it comes 2 RK u ppl start judging & I dont think Madhu is doing anything wrong.She believe in marriage & wnt 2 give it a chance.I personally feel u shuld opt 4 Geet coz Madhubala is passionate & passion not come wid stupid dance,exposing & rubbish dialog but wid emotions,pagalpanti

RK is showed as Enigma who do wht he likes,who speak where as Madhu is more calm & peaceful so I think u r indeed watching some other show or u really cant understand anything abt this show.Show is going in right way

PS- Though I agree poojas & saas-bahu suck big time but rest is f9 & it's not jst abt DD or VD's talent.More thn us & thm directors & PHs have tension & evn put better efforts

Edited by SheDevil - 12 years ago

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