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Foucaults-qalam

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Posted: 12 years ago

#41

and what about the poor peeps like me who can't cook?

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Shridevi Gaddam

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Posted: 12 years ago

#42

Originally posted by: Foucaults-qalam
and what about the poor peeps like me who can't cook?

Are you saying that to me ? 😆

Can I serve you with pictures instead ?😆

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dramago

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Posted: 12 years ago

#43

Great analysis SD...always a pleasure to read your insights

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0
RK scenes - NEEDED and NECESSARY but fails in the dramatic emphasis.
RK brings Madhu's Ganesha from her previous room. We are not shown him walking around. We are informed by him that he brought the idol by himself. His talk with Ganesha is RK style..all friendly and further he reveals that he actually was asking for a punishment from him and he liked Ganesha's punishment (getting shot and almost dying).
His first reaction to Madhu when she sees him is I brought bappa because you will like it...
Now,even though as an excuse still RK was talking about doing things to please his biwi...
How cute...I remember his saza wala dialogue when Madhu confronts him as to why he was so rude to Padmini when she invites them to chawl's Ganapathi festival...It was one
dhansu dialogue...Kya karenge...Saza denge...Saza bhi RK ki standard ka hona chaahiye Bappa...Wow..the way he said it was just Wow..

Madhu listens to all this. What was missed in the plot-play, is failure to show Madhu as surprised...because I was. The viewers and Madhu never knew what RK thought of getting shot immediately after his surrender to Ganesha. So when he reveals, wouldn't her guilt go away for being the reason to get shot? She is shown very complacent on that piece of info...totally not registering it.

However, if we ignore that, then as follow-up to yesterday night's scene, RK as let Madhu know of Rishabh and his Dad's relationship, we are shown that RK finally has made peace with his Dad's death and keeps the picture on the drawer and offers his prayers.
Yes..he is been locking his father's memory in his inner sanctum not letting anyone touch or know about it until now...Madhu's assurance that he was not guilty along with his regained
faith on bappa seemed to have worked on him...so,finally Papa Kundra's photo comes out in
the open...him placing a flower indicating peace made...I would appreciate if you could explain how it came about ...You can surely go in depth and nail it step by step for us...My thoughts on this are very muddled up with not much clarity...
It seems by forcing RK face bappa Madhu in a way opened an opportunity for him to confront his grief,let his anger and complaints out,face his demons instead of avoid them and there by gave him a chance to succeed over them...but,would that be possible if it was someone else and not Madhu who did it...?? NO...Madhu's pure,true soul and her faith is what encouraged him to try and hope for reconciling with his friend / past there by healing his wounds instead of licking them for life...

That peace being made...we are shown then Radhaju watching all of this...but her time has not yet come. She is still an outsider to RK.

Done ..😃

Edited by himbin - 12 years ago

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Foucaults-qalam

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Posted: 12 years ago

#44

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

Are you saying that to me ? 😆
Can I serve you with pictures instead ?😆

Yep.i just feel very inadequate when peeps discuss their culinary prowess. Sad face.

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Munni_123

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Posted: 12 years ago

#45

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0
reserved for EOD summary

ANNOUNCEMENT:
RK & Madhu to share smiles and laughter in tomorrow's episode.
To watch the AWESOME PRECAP, please go to page 3 and look for iolahardy's youtube video insert.

Rest ...
Do read all the rest of critical commentary from all the posters.

Summary update of the episode - scenes wise
It was a plot-progression episode in every sense.

Padmini-Shamsher scene - Needed
Padmini asks Shamsher, where he has been loitering...and he gives an answer that he went to see his daughter. So Shamsher is seen by his daughter and used the same to cover up his act when Padmini asked. I am still confused what he thinks of himself as, but he sure is coming out as one focussed man set on achieving what he wants. Though all of it just reminds me of Raskolnikov where the act of killing is more thrilling than n number of purposes he attaches to the killing. Call me wacko , the man is wacko and the track is wacko.

I think Padmini suspected something already and the next track will be o Shmmo-Madhu-RK! 😊

Dipali -Madhu (Bhabhi -Devar cat-fight) - Not Needed
Needed one. But if you ask me the whole DIPS thing ...Send her off to London again. Please. We don't need her. She has the grand audacious plans to serve RK a breakfast of her choice. Seriously !!! Does she have a brain in her head ? 🤪

Weird she is ! I pity Sikku! 😆

Radhaji announcing to the Bahus ...Mata ki Chowki arrangements - UNNECESSARY
Do I even need to talk ? No way...Check the IF segment. It has new video with Madhu's green saree. I don't like that.

Another Bhakthi channel segment. After this do they show Deewali,Karvachauth before separation ?😲

Kukku-Sikky Scenes - Filler scenes but goes to plot construction
That they are being dogged by their creditors and they are on the run. That's a build-up again for yet another ruse that the duo seriously need to harm RK...need to fish him for money. Just that its so DAMN PREDICATABLE !!!! 😡

Agree!

Chawl scene - ( Progression scene)
We have police trying to track the killer. They reach Shamsher's Chawl. What exactly they have on him, we are not yet made privy to it. But yes, Shamsher realizes that his locket is lost...it was pulled by RK in the hospital tussle.

RK scenes - NEEDED and NECESSARY but fails in the dramatic emphasis.
RK brings Madhu's Ganesha from her previous room. We are not shown him walking around. We are informed by him that he brought the idol by himself. His talk with Ganesha is RK style..all friendly and further he reveals that he actually was asking for a punishment from him and he liked Ganesha's punishment (getting shot and almost dying).

I felt something is lacking in that scene. May be I was wrong but for me it was an OK scene.

Madhu listens to all this. What was missed in the plot-play, is failure to show Madhu as surprised...because I was. The viewers and Madhu never knew what RK thought of getting shot immediately after his surrender to Ganesha. So when he reveals, wouldn't her guilt go away for being the reason to get shot? She is shown very complacent on that piece of info...totally not registering it.

However, if we ignore that, then as follow-up to yesterday night's scene, RK as let Madhu know of Rishabh and his Dad's relationship, we are shown that RK finally has made peace with his Dad's death and keeps the picture on the drawer and offers his prayers.

That peace being made...we are shown then Radhaju watching all of this...but her time has not yet come. She is still an outsider to RK.

Nice analysis SD!👏

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Shridevi Gaddam

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Posted: 12 years ago

#46

Originally posted by: himbin
Great analysis SD...always a pleasure to read your insights

However, if we ignore that, then as follow-up to yesterday night's scene, RK as let Madhu know of Rishabh and his Dad's relationship, we are shown that RK finally has made peace with his Dad's death and keeps the picture on the drawer and offers his prayers.
Yes..he is been locking his father's memory in his inner sanctum not letting anyone touch or know about it until now...Madhu's assurance that he was not guilty along with his regained
faith on bappa seemed to have worked on him...so,finally Papa Kundra's photo comes out in
the open...him placing a flower indicating peace made...I would appreciate if you could explain how it came about ...You can surely go in depth and nail it step by step for us...My thoughts on this are very muddled up with out much clarity...
It seems by forcing RK face bappa Madhu in a way opened an opportunity for him to confront his grief,let his anger and complaints out,face his demons instead of avoid them and there by gave him a chance to succeed over them...but,would that be possible if it was not Madhu who did it...??her pure,true soul and her faith is what encouraged him to try and gave him hope of reconciling with his friend/past there by healing his wounds instead of licking them for life...

Hima,

Same goes to you from me. Trust me I am not just keeping manners here. While on the realistic level of story-telling and presentation, like FQ reassures what I felt ..me on the lacunae I felt on story structure, content presentation and gaping holes, you on the other side of the same story-telling aspect, force me to leave my realism and look into imaginative side. I don't know if I am explaining properly, but recently I was updating all my posts in one place for easy reference for myself an any others who would want to read them from one place, I saw that your posts...had a very good insight on where the tracks are heading to. Well ofcourse, our discussion attributes beauty to what the CVs show us, but then people like you are able to give them credit even before the propaganda of Rangmunch or Metromasti or Bolegaon or IF or TeleBuzz. I collected one of your post as a reference material, just so that I don't ever forget how you write 😊 😃.

And about the peace made with papa Kundra's death ...you pretty much explained it yourself. I will only add this. He acknowledged Papa's death when photos got published, he punished Madhu and he cried in front of the closed Sitara studio. His part anger went away when in Natraj Studio, he told Madhu what those pics meant...about the death. The death was no longer private. He told a third person Madhu. Madhu became a trusted person into that story, the day she apologized to him for using those pics as blackmail. Then came Bappa angle...Madhu was just accidental catalyst here. Rishabh just took the opportunity and made clean breast of his anger with God. That peace already reached...Madhu happened to hear out his inner fears without any say of his. What can he do ?...just pretend to himself that Madhu does not know ? Wallow in self-pity when that third person is saying you are not at fault ? There was no point in further drama of keeping it a secret or trying to feel hurt. When we talk, we cannot go back to our previous state as it was in our minds. So he just made peace with that drama.

Good !!! (SD says it in RK style). The man does not like too many dramas of his 😆

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Shridevi Gaddam

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Posted: 12 years ago

#47

Originally posted by: Foucaults-qalam

Yep.i just feel very inadequate when peeps discuss their culinary prowess. Sad face.

Okay. I won't keep you waiting to go home and click pics and then send them to you. Take a look of some I have in my accessible folders ...now at this time.

Choorma Laddoo

Litti- Choka - I prepared after I watched one episode in Afsar Bitiya when Pintoo Singh takes Krishna to have that ...Story setting -Bhagalpur and hence Litti Chokha - Courtesy Online recipe

And now check this shooting ( from Afsar Bitiya - Zee TV and Producer is Raakesh Paswaan). What do you say of the facilities given to crew generally ? What do the actors go through ? And why does Colors say that MB has a big BUDGET

Edited by 0-SD-0 - 12 years ago

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Shridevi Gaddam

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Posted: 12 years ago

#48

FQ,

Waiting to hear your commentary on the pics I sent. Well! I can do away with you not talking about my culinary skills (tease face), but it will certainly not do, if you do not comment on the last pic...the motor bike scene..with the cameraman and the actor.

If you click on the picture...can you see it in bigger size ? I don't know how to make the pic into a bigger size 😔

ETA: I got to know how to paste full size pics 😃

Edited by 0-SD-0 - 12 years ago

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Foucaults-qalam

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Posted: 12 years ago

#49

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0
FQ,

Waiting to hear your commentary on the pics I sent. Well! I can do away with you not talking about my culinary skills (tease face), but it will certainly not do, if you do not comment on the last pic...the motor bike scene..with the cameraman and the actor.

If you click on the picture...can you see it in bigger size ? I don't know how to make the pic into a bigger size 😔

ETA: I got to know how to paste full size pics 😃

\v impressed by the cooking. you are a domestic goddess, it seems. all hail my failure cakes!

Re the shooting: that's some pretty bare boned stuff. I guess that's the magic that these guys are able to do. Bringing something to life with such little infrastructure.