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Deciphering Him -7th Sep 2012

I just watched the episode. It was cute but at the same time baffling. I couldn't get this man. 😆 But then I am so drawn to him. I guess even Madhubala feels the same. She doesn't know what to make of him, the man who seems to know her in and out. True he baffled her the moment she saw him in her room with the potion. And then it was baffling as he goes about to deliver his doctor, caretaker act. The sneeze saved her from totally getting enticed with his kindness act. But the penultimate baffling was the gist of "tumhare saason pe bhi mera haq hai" 😆 Ro kar leti, hans kar leti ho, tadap ke leti, gidgidati hui leti or yaa rok thi ho yeh soch tue ki ab kya leke aayega RK tumhari zindagi mein 😆 OMG !!! Everything is about him. Each and every word. True how hard he tries to be the megalomaniac before MB, his self-appointed adversary ?

Now let's cut through his exterior act, which actually is so loveable that we may never feel like going to see his interior. Nevertheless, the interior has to be seen.

What was the need for him to go and make the potion by himself and get it by himself. May be the pleasure of interaction with his adversary draws him in. An adversary who said sometime back in the day that she hates him and cannot breath the air that is shared by him too. So that's why the taunt "saans ko rok leti ho" Okay a small game concocted by him. Become the instrumental one in clearing the obstruction of the breathing process. If successful, another win for him.

His so called devilish thoughts, are they even coming across as devilish ? Even if he is trying his 200% ? No. Not at all.

First the potion

Being a woman, knowing my kitchen and knowing few men like my brother and my husband, my thoughts linger on the execution itself of making the potion. The RK who may never have sauntered into the kitchen, how did he find the honey, the ajwain from all those kitchen cabinets. Did he wake up the servants and ask them to provide the ingrediants. Secret !!! Suspense!! 😆 We may never know. But I am happy to know that he is intelligent enough to know the scientific term of cold and then he knew the NUSKHA to cure Jhukhaam. Isn't it cute ? Yes, it is. Inspite of n number of negative traits, the smooth execution itself of getting something done from the kitchen is adorable and attractive. One would just get cured in those thoughts itself.

Second the act of coaxing and convincing.

Wants MB to trust that the potion is drinkable. So what should he do so that she trusts him. Yes, give her something that she won't believe. Zeher+Acid+Drug ka mixture followed by Honey+Ajwain+Hot water. Pee lo Aaraam milega. MB defenses are all attacked and she just looks at him. Thank goodness, the sneeze prevails and she cuts herself of. But then, in these moments of coaxing, how desperate was his face that she believe that the mixture was good enough to consume. Who can now say he is being devilish ? It was more like convincing her that he is still a bit of something that she can play with unlike in the day when she said "Bas RK. Bas. ab aur nahin"

Third the forceful giving of the drink

As the fiery MB mellows down baffled with his performance, RK does what he likes, the forceful feeding 😆 He must be super happy. An achievement for him. Knew MB would not take it and yet he made her take it. And yet how can you call this a devilish act even if he is playing it ?

Four - the revelation of his thoughts.

Tumhaare Saason par bhi mera haq hai. Man! Why so scared of people acknowledging your kind act. Why to twist that truth and serve it as something else. Clearly the mask of strong persona is falling off and anyone can see how contrived it looks when wants to disguise his act of kindness.

Why RK ? Why ?

Now let me rewind something that he did after he had the pleasure of beating the pulp of MB's sacrifice for the love of her father.
He had left her broken and a wondering statement of how low he can get each growing moment. It hurt him and yet he disguised it with his smirk and I am watching you' attitude.
But then where did he go? I thought he would go back to his mansion. NO! he goes back to the memories with his father, with which he started the day. He goes to a place and remembers and cries out his heart at what happened in the morning. In this privy moment, there is NO MB. Its only him and his father.

His mother comes and tries to explain MB's so called act, he lashes out at his mother that she need not belittle his self-respect, his esteem before THAT GIRL. Oh! My My! in those moments, MB was no Biwi, no dushman and only woh/us Ladki. She became nothing for him. Isn't this then the sanest moment of his?

Friends, I am truly baffled. If MB is merely Woh Ladki, how come he is befriending the girl giving her all kinds of adjectives like Dushman and Biwi.

There is that boy who is living his father's dreams. - Subconscious Self
There is that man who has achieved what his father wants and keeps on playing the Superstar act every public moment of his life. - Conscious Self
And there is that life which started expressing itself now, to find company, to find a peer, to play. And he found one "That Girl" - Unconscious Self
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Lovely analysis.👏

RK seems to be the sort who knows what he needs to.😃
Just wish I could figure out why the Bhatias get to stay with him.😕
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sri,


Beautiful analysis, i loved it😊
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Originally posted by: leelaa9

Lovely analysis.👏

RK seems to be the sort who knows what he needs to.😃
Just wish I could figure out why the Bhatias get to stay with him.😕


Thank you Leela,

Even I wonder, how come he is able to stay with them. Even if I thought that he considers them family and for sake of his mom and public curiosity, he keeps the pretense of all of them being a family, the act of calling them chor and kabadi on the production set few days back was contrary to kinship behavior.

At best I could only guess, that there is a blackmail involved from Kuku Bhatia on Family matters or what matters most to Rishabh Kundra and therefore RK lives in this compromised manner. And it does seem so. No ?
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I had written such a long reply to this last night, but then the utterly stupid comment limit ate my post. Seething. With. Rage

To me the issue here is that like most of us in this world, RK does not know himself or his true desires. He is not a resolved being, however much he parades his certainties in the form of bombastic dialogue. And , of course, as most of us who are not deluded or have an IQ over 40 know, this uncertainty and quest for self is the default human condition.

Madhubala is the most resolved character in the MBverse. Her refined certainties are a positional and ideological Other that RK rages against, both mentally and physically.

But he has made his performances his self, and he is nothing but infinite layers of illusions created for the studios, for the media, for his family, and even for himself. One of these illusions, the one for his mother, forbids him from ever revealing his true feelings in front of her.

therefore, in my reading, we cannot take the most obvious meaning from his reference to mb as that girl in front of Sitara studios.


I look forward to the unravelling of that mystery. I have an inkling it is tied to Kukku cheating Mohan Kundra out of the studio or some such thing.

Great beginning, meta betas!
Edited by Foucaults-qalam - 12 years ago
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Thank you FQ .

Here we begin the discussion. Agree with your thoughts.

To delve a little on "that girl" factor as it has come up in the screenplay, as I got stuck with this 😆

Madhubala is that girl to Rishabh Kundra in his most sanest personality although frozen in time.

Madhubala was a Madhubala Ahaan to Superstar RK - the most unreal personality, the actor at all times.

MB hurt the superstar's ego and he made her his adversary and the vendetta started on to show who is the master, the god in RK world.

MB hurt the little boy trapped in time and like a boy, he was crying and only requested his mother not to expose him and his self-respect before that girl. That girl here seemed as something that RK wouldn't want to be associated with.
RK would not anyone to be close to him so much so that it may have consequences upon his frozen memories. His problem is he doesn't want any dilutions happening and he starts judging consequences in a very morbid fashion...like calling it murder. This is where I felt that the boy though thinking morbidly about having been murdered, yet had not given weightage to the individuality of MB by addressing her as Madhubala and just made everything impersonal about Madhubala and called her "that girl"
Or maybe its the worse form of disgust when we call a person whom we know as "that nameless thing or form". Here this is my personal experience. I have felt it very distasteful and disgusting to call out the name for a person that had deeply hurt me and disappointed me.

I am saving my curiosity for the future on the context of "self-respect" used here as I am perturbed and intrigued how revelations will undermine his self-respect ?


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Originally posted by: shridevigaddam

Thank you FQ .



Madhubala is that girl to Rishabh Kundra in his most sanest personality although frozen in time.

Madhubala was a Madhubala Ahaan to Superstar RK - the most unreal personality, the actor at all times.




I've edited your post to highlight the salient features I will address. All of it was very insightful, of course.
I think these two lines perfectly summarise the situation.
Please will you let me know about what you mean by sel-respect in your post?
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Originally posted by: Foucaults-qalam

I've edited your post to highlight the salient features I will address. All of it was very insightful, of course.
I think these two lines perfectly summarise the situation.
Please will you let me know about what you mean by self-respect in your post?


FQ,
Rishabh said to his mom, "apne kartavya mein saas banne ke point kamaane mein, aap Mujhe Aur Mere Atma-Samman ko Us Ladki ke saamene aur mat giraiye".

Atma-Samman means Self-Respect. And I am seriously clueless why he would bring up those two words in that context. I will wait and watch to know what it means.
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Originally posted by: shridevigaddam


FQ,
Rishabh said to his mom, "apne kartavya mein saas banne ke point kamaane mein, aap Mujhe Aur Mere Atma-Samman ko Us Ladki ke saamene aur mat giraiye".

Atma-Samman means Self-Respect. And I am seriously clueless why he would bring up those two words in that context. I will wait and watch to know what it means.



I've just been assuming he wanted to say pride but could not find the right word. Nor could the writer. Or in his mind, self-respect is conflated with pride. Hmm.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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nice i will start my comments when i start watching, at present i am reading updates,

i loved your analysis

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