An idiosyncratic analysis of 7th June

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Again, just two scenes of Gaurav today... but he hugged Naina in one, so i'm sure that everyone is ready to bash to him up!! 😆 😆

Well first of all, i want to talk of whats uppermost on my mind... this is a ridiculous show..... what is this entirely nonsensical code?... ok the code mentioned Kiran and Shantanu... how did Huda know on what date those two people got married to each other?.... he called up a record office and got the address of the couple who had married each other four years ago on a certain date... Where did he get that date from?... and what about 'believe in miracles'... how is that related to the rest of the code?

So Huda finds this address... and Abhimanyu and Naina go there and find nothing... Huda tells Rajeev the address... Rajeev goes there and asks about wedding gifts... again, how did Rajeev know that he had to ask for a marriage gift... and Naveen could send a huge box through post which came back to KMA... but Naveen was not in KMA when it was sent... so how could it be sent back there?

Absolutely hopeless...

Anyway, i shall focus on Gaurav's scenes, as usual 😉 😆...

Well today Gaurav both disappointed me and then made up for it... today for the first time since becoming his fan, i saw a scene where he had a close up and i thought 'he didnt do this well'.... this is when Naina tells him that she shot Rajeev, her mentor... and the camera went to his face twice... and he looked blank both times... thoda sa shock ka sense tha.... but he wasnt there.... woh do moments ke liye he just wasnt there.... and then he picked it up... he closed his eyes, leaned his head back and touched his hand to his heart... he was back on track... then there was shock, there was sorrow, there was a realisation of just how important this was to her.

One clarification: I am talking of two close ups only, two shots, two moments of a scene, not of the entire scene... he picked it up from the third frame onwards so this is basically a criticism of a minor part of a scene...something that you would have to pause your media player and see... so please do not make this a Gaurav bashing post.

Anyway, to come back, he picked up pace and was doing a good job when the scene lost it... they drowned out what he was saying in that background music... it was so loud... and his second I'm so sorry was muted.... the background music should not have been so loud... it killed the effect of what he was saying.

The next scene was the two of them outside the jeep... and this is where the Gaurav I like was back.... charming, restrained, subtle... i loved the entire i wanted to be a tennis referee sequence.... i love such weird dreams about what one wants to be in life.... by the way, i wanted to be an engine driver when i was a kid since i loved trains so much, so it does take all kinds to make a world!.... i think he was better than usual in this scene .... the attempt to engage her in conversation, the curiousity about her, the indulgence with which he began to listen and finally the impulse to laugh and the completely unsuccessful attempt to control it.... not that he was trying very hard .... and i loved the way he said 'you're so adorable'... ek toh it was exactly the right word for her at that point... dialogue writer, for once your word was spot on for the situation, so take a bow.... and his smile after he had said it was also different... it was not a passionate smile... it was a more thehra hua smile.... different from the laugh earlier.... more like 'i've just realised this about you and have said it, and i know it is going to make you blush'... i wish they had lingered on that...

I also liked the scene when he is lying back on the jeep and talking about his background... he is sharing it with her but not really so.... he's also having a conversation that he frequently has with himself... i liked the fact that he was looking at the horizon rather than at her... he was not trying to impress her or see her reaction to this story of his childhood.... this is how he must have talked to Naveen, secure in the knowledge that his friend would not judge him for who he was or for what he was saying... ok, now i'm being fanciful so i'll give it a rest now...

When he finally solves it, though what he has solved we'll know only tomorrow, i think the thrice 'yes' and punch in the air was overdone... once or twice at the max... didnt need more than that

Finally, the radio is playing 'yeh dil na hota bechaara' as i write this... i think the song suits Abhimanyu. 😊

Hopefully there will be more scenes of Gaurav tomorrow.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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shvetal i am sure nobody will bash abhi but NAINA 😡

she thinks shes strong n then here we see her needing a shoulder to cry on

huda helped her and this is wht she gives in return................i hope she never succeeds in her mission nor get Huda nor Rajveer( dunno abt abhi as yet so ruling him out)
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Posted: 18 years ago
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well i do not know naina's problem. she is guilty as she shot raj but does not want him to help her anymore. she seems to trust abhi.
abhi is a smart guy. his conversations though philosophical are interesting but i found it strange that he couldn't persuade the guard to let them in. i found it strange. it's as if it was done on purpose. he then told naina that this is the end though naina did not agree with him. well hats off to this girl?
but what was going on in abhi's mind? there's more to him than that meets the eye. i feel that he wanted to pursue the matter alone so he distracted naina. naina trusts him but abhi doesn't? remember what raj told abt abhi - he is a believer of conspiracy theories. inspite of that naina trusts him why? i guess it is abhi's endearing nature - if he wants to get close to a person he tries to approach him or her thru cheerful talks, a little bit of philosophy - he has the capacity of winning people over.
i am surprised to see raj succeeded where abhi coudn't.
both r capable in every sense and yet abhi is a step behind raj.
is it done on purpose? is abhi to be trusted? is he the spy?
he could do well in a negative role.
but i like his voice and the way he laughed at naina - like a father laughing at a silly child.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Father? Gaurav kaun se angle se father figure lagta hai tumhe? 😉 😆 😆
On a serious note, i do see what you mean: the tone of that laughter was definitely indulgent... but the 'you're so adorable' made it more complex...
As for questions of whether he is the spy or not, thats the story part of it... and the story will unfold the way it has to. But yes i have found this entire code thing ridiculous so far and very badly done.
And Sam, Naina kisi ko kya bash karegi... uss bechaari ki kitni bashing hoti hai iss forum pe.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: whynot

Again, just two scenes of Gaurav today... but he hugged Naina in one, so i'm sure that everyone is ready to bash to him up!! 😆 😆

Well first of all, i want to talk of whats uppermost on my mind... this is a ridiculous show..... what is this entirely nonsensical code?... ok the code mentioned Kiran and Shantanu... how did Huda know on what date those two people got married to each other?.... he called up a record office and got the address of the couple who had married each other four years ago on a certain date... Where did he get that date from?... and what about 'believe in miracles'... how is that related to the rest of the code?( yes..shvetal...i was wondering the same thing yesterday that what abhi's part of code implies? they had shown huda cracking a code in very beginning of the show...but this is not enough to make us believe that he cracked it this time also....atleast they sh'd hv shown how? but all questions remains unanswered.

So Huda finds this address... and Abhimanyu and Naina go there and find nothing... Huda tells Rajeev the address... Rajeev goes there and asks about wedding gifts... again, how did Rajeev know that he had to ask for a marriage gift... and Naveen could send a huge box through post which came back to KMA... but Naveen was not in KMA when it was sent... so how could it be sent back there? ( as abt marriage gift....it's not difficult to guess cuz he knews that it was sent after marrige of so called couple.."shantanu & kiran"....but....there is one more perplexity....in their conversations they mentioned that it was sent 4 years ago....but navin's trial took place just 2 years back......

Absolutely hopeless... ( i think the the track is not hopeless but the way they r presenting..(all things messed up)....is making it hopeless.)

Anyway, i shall focus on Gaurav's scenes, as usual 😉 😆...

Well today Gaurav both disappointed me and then made up for it... today for the first time since becoming his fan, i saw a scene where he had a close up and i thought 'he didnt do this well'.... this is when Naina tells him that she shot Rajeev, her mentor... and the camera went to his face twice... and he looked blank both times... thoda sa shock ka sense tha.... but he wasnt there.... woh do moments ke liye he just wasnt there.... and then he picked it up... he closed his eyes, leaned his head back and touched his hand to his heart... he was back on track... then there was shock, there was sorrow, there was a realisation of just how important this was to her.( i didn't noticed so well...but as for being blank...i think it was cuz that he was already aware of the fact that rajvir shot navin...so he didn't gave a shocking expression. rather he felt for the first time that naina is passing thruogh a difficult phase where she has to accept that her mentor is the killer of her brother.

One clarification: I am talking of two close ups only, two shots, two moments of a scene, not of the entire scene... he picked it up from the third frame onwards so this is basically a criticism of a minor part of a scene...something that you would have to pause your media player and see... so please do not make this a Gaurav bashing post.

Anyway, to come back, he picked up pace and was doing a good job when the scene lost it... they drowned out what he was saying in that background music... it was so loud... and his second I'm so sorry was muted.... the background music should not have been so loud... it killed the effect of what he was saying.

The next scene was the two of them outside the jeep... and this is where the Gaurav I like was back.... charming, restrained, subtle... i loved the entire i wanted to be a tennis referee sequence.... i love such weird dreams about what one wants to be in life.... by the way, i wanted to be an engine driver when i was a kid since i loved trains so much, so it does take all kinds to make a world!.... i think he was better than usual in this scene .... the attempt to engage her in conversation, the curiousity about her, the indulgence with which he began to listen and finally the impulse to laugh and the completely unsuccessful attempt to control it.... not that he was trying very hard .... and i loved the way he said 'you're so adorable'... ek toh it was exactly the right word for her at that point... dialogue writer, for once your word was spot on for the situation, so take a bow.... and his smile after he had said it was also different... it was not a passionate smile... it was a more thehra hua smile.... different from the laugh earlier.... more like 'i've just realised this about you and have said it, and i know it is going to make you blush'... i wish they had lingered on that... ( shvetal..this dialogue writer is surely going to approach you very soon...provided he/she uses to read ur everyday analysis.....😉

u r so adorable....was the best dialogue of him & said in the best possible way.... keep it up..gaurav....

I also liked the scene when he is lying back on the jeep and talking about his background... he is sharing it with her but not really so.... he's also having a conversation that he frequently has with himself... i liked the fact that he was looking at the horizon rather than at her... he was not trying to impress her or see her reaction to this story of his childhood.... this is how he must have talked to Naveen, secure in the knowledge that his friend would not judge him for who he was or for what he was saying... ok, now i'm being fanciful so i'll give it a rest now...

When he finally solves it, though what he has solved we'll know only tomorrow, i think the thrice 'yes' and punch in the air was overdone... once or twice at the max... didnt need more than that ( when he played his hands on the border of roof of jeep....he was good.)

Finally, the radio is playing 'yeh dil na hota bechaara' as i write this... i think the song suits Abhimanyu. 😊( he is neither bechara nor awaara but ...ek khoobsurat humsafar hoga to mujhe achcha legega..).. 😉😉

Hopefully there will be more scenes of Gaurav tomorrow.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: whynot

Again, just two scenes of Gaurav today... but he hugged Naina in one, so i'm sure that everyone is ready to bash to him up!! 😆 😆

I liked this hug😳 and am sure there are more to come!!😊

Well first of all, i want to talk of whats uppermost on my mind... this is a ridiculous show..... what is this entirely nonsensical code?... ok the code mentioned Kiran and Shantanu... how did Huda know on what date those two people got married to each other?.... he called up a record office and got the address of the couple who had married each other four years ago on a certain date... Where did he get that date from?... and what about 'believe in miracles'... how is that related to the rest of the code?

How did Huda know?Divine intervention, lady.

So Huda finds this address... and Abhimanyu and Naina go there and find nothing... Huda tells Rajeev the address... Rajeev goes there and asks about wedding gifts... again, how did Rajeev know that he had to ask for a marriage gift... and Naveen could send a huge box through post which came back to KMA... but Naveen was not in KMA when it was sent... so how could it be sent back there?

How did Rajveer know?..he is the Hero...u know!

Absolutely hopeless... very apt👏👏

Anyway, i shall focus on Gaurav's scenes, as usual 😉 😆...

They are the best.👍🏼

Well today Gaurav both disappointed me and then made up for it... today for the first time since becoming his fan, i saw a scene where he had a close up and i thought 'he didnt do this well'.... this is when Naina tells him that she shot Rajeev, her mentor... and the camera went to his face twice... and he looked blank both times... thoda sa shock ka sense tha.... but he wasnt there.... woh do moments ke liye he just wasnt there.... and then he picked it up... he closed his eyes, leaned his head back and touched his hand to his heart... he was back on track... then there was shock, there was sorrow, there was a realisation of just how important this was to her.

I liked this and am shocked😲 u didnt !! He was numbed by her confession and somewhat pained too. It was something unanticipated. Now I think Abhi will understand Rajveer's dilemma better.

One clarification: I am talking of two close ups only, two shots, two moments of a scene, not of the entire scene... he picked it up from the third frame onwards so this is basically a criticism of a minor part of a scene...something that you would have to pause your media player and see... so please do not make this a Gaurav bashing post.

Anyway, to come back, he picked up pace and was doing a good job when the scene lost it... they drowned out what he was saying in that background music... it was so loud... and his second I'm so sorry was muted.... the background music should not have been so loud... it killed the effect of what he was saying.

which background music? ..there was absolutely no jungle talk.

The next scene was the two of them outside the jeep... and this is where the Gaurav I like was back.... charming, restrained, subtle... i loved the entire i wanted to be a tennis referee sequence.... i love such weird dreams about what one wants to be in life.... by the way, i wanted to be an engine driver when i was a kid since i loved trains so much, so it does take all kinds to make a world!.... i think he was better than usual in this scene .... the attempt to engage her in conversation, the curiousity about her, the indulgence with which he began to listen and finally the impulse to laugh and the completely unsuccessful attempt to control it.... not that he was trying very hard .... and i loved the way he said 'you're so adorable'... ek toh it was exactly the right word for her at that point... dialogue writer, for once your word was spot on for the situation, so take a bow.... and his smile after he had said it was also different... it was not a passionate smile... it was a more thehra hua smile.... different from the laugh earlier.... more like 'i've just realised this about you and have said it, and i know it is going to make you blush'... i wish they had lingered on that...

The scene was great and the way he said you are so adorable😳. It was affectionate and yet unattached.👍🏼 I liked Naina too she was quite uninhibited.

I also liked the scene when he is lying back on the jeep and talking about his background... he is sharing it with her but not really so.... he's also having a conversation that he frequently has with himself... i liked the fact that he was looking at the horizon rather than at her... he was not trying to impress her or see her reaction to this story of his childhood.... this is how he must have talked to Naveen, secure in the knowledge that his friend would not judge him for who he was or for what he was saying... ok, now i'm being fanciful so i'll give it a rest now...

This scene showed him relaxed & carefree so I thought he wld share something abt himself like how he wanted to be a musician or anything giving insight into him. But what an insipid B'day story🤢 !Who remembers 'jaab pain paach saal ka tha'... grow up Mr script writer😡!

When he finally solves it, though what he has solved we'll know only tomorrow, i think the thrice 'yes' and punch in the air was overdone... once or twice at the max... didnt need more than that

yes this was overdone.The gusto with which he went was enough.

Finally, the radio is playing 'yeh dil na hota bechaara' as i write this... i think the song suits Abhimanyu. 😊

You are dreaming again!😳

Hopefully there will be more scenes of Gaurav tomorrow.

I concur and hugs 😉too.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: scorpiongal

( yes..shvetal...i was wondering the same thing yesterday that what abhi's part of code implies? they had shown huda cracking a code in very beginning of the show...but this is not enough to make us believe that he cracked it this time also....atleast they sh'd hv shown how? but all questions remains unanswered.

Yes thats how life is... so many questions remain unanswered!! 😉 😆

( as abt marriage gift....it's not difficult to guess cuz he knews that it was sent after marrige of so called couple.."shantanu & kiran"....but....there is one more perplexity....in their conversations they mentioned that it was sent 4 years ago....but navin's trial took place just 2 years back......

Good point.

( i think the the track is not hopeless but the way they r presenting..(all things messed up)....is making it hopeless.)

True... actually the story does have a lot of potential... in fact, how can they take up mercy killing and not have an exciting story on hand...

( i didn't noticed so well...but as for being blank...i think it was cuz that he was already aware of the fact that rajvir shot navin...so he didn't gave a shocking expression. rather he felt for the first time that naina is passing thruogh a difficult phase where she has to accept that her mentor is the killer of her brother.

But he did not know that she had shot Rajeev... anyway, i'm not saying that he did not emote well... i'm saying that it was delayed... his reactions were two close ups too late... that may have been deliberate though... but, if so, i dont feel the desired effect was achieved

( shvetal..this dialogue writer is surely going to approach you very soon...provided he/she uses to read ur everyday analysis.....😉

u r so adorable....was the best dialogue of him & said in the best possible way.... keep it up..gaurav....

Sweetie yeh socho ki if this dialogue writer approaches me, what will i do to her/him?!

( when he played his hands on the border of roof of jeep....he was good.)

True... that was good... i forgot to mention that... thanks for reminding me

( he is neither bechara nor awaara but ...ek khoobsurat humsafar hoga to mujhe achcha legega..).. 😉😉

True!! 😃

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: spian

Edited by whynot - 18 years ago

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: whynot

Edited by spian - 18 years ago

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: spian

Since you wrote so convincingly I am compelled to believe😛 But still I liked his performance in the whole scene. Only hitting in air was not reqd. Will try to watch for the details.

Violence in Abhi was shown during the sword fight, very agressive. I think Rajveer is completely non-violent person.

Sweetie dont go by what i say... this was my personal reaction, yours may be different... after all, what we see as good or bad acting is also relative... for instance, people see a lot of emotions in the eyes or faces of actors where i see an eternal nothingness....

Also, Rajveer may be non-violent by temperament.... but he does have death on his hands!!

Finally, remember these lines before you begin getting convinced by whatever i say:

'Tum toh na kaho hum khud hi se khele,

Doobe nahi hum hi yun nashe mein akele,

Sheeshe mein aapko bhi uttare chale gaye'

😉 😆 😆

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