My analysis of yesterday's episode

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Hi. I'm back with my analysis but this one has to be short today... unfortunately, hai aur bhi gham duniya mein ghame mohabbat ke siva, hai aur bhi kaam jeevan mein gaurav ko dekhne ke alaava 😆 😆

So just three scenes... liked the class room scene a lot... thats the challenge of a character like Abhimanyu... Abhimanyu works at two levels... he has a persona, as so many of us have... this is the jovial, ever charming, ever talkataive, unable to let something be Abhimanyu... it partly emerges from the nice guy he is... its partly also a defence against being considered arrogant because of his royal background... this Abhimanyu though is also a surface... a lot of people will know this Abhimanyu and get along well with him, some may even know that there is a deeper layer to him, without knowing that deeper layer very well... but so far that deeper layer has emerged on screen only when Abhi has been with Rajeev... remember the scene where he said 'achcha hoon... bahut achcha hoon' when Rajeev asked him on the first day 'kaisa hai tu?'...look at Gaurav's expression in that scene... now imagine if one of the students were to ask him 'aap kaise hai?' and how do you think he would respond?... with Rajeev Abhi is less persona, more himself (yes i do still remember that he's a fictional character)... thats why i think his relationship with Naina still has to grow... he is still persona with her, as with everyone else except Rajeev....

Now why is the class room scene interesting?... thats because persona is hard to do... if one is doing joviality, one wrong slip and it can become buffonery... also one needs to convey that this is a persona so it should operate at the surface level... at the same time, a persona becomes a part of the person, so it should not seem false or artificial... persona is not disguise, with a real personality hiding behind the disguise... persona is another, different reality... i think Gaurav is doing this very well, without going over the top about it... in fact, the only moment which jarred me a bit was when he asks them 'why music' and did the hand gesture of playing a guitar... i thought that wasnt necessary but the pitch of the rest of the scene was just perfect... i especially liked his individual interaction with all the students... again, Gaurav could have done this more overtly... made everything he said seem significant and imbued with meaning, but he didnt... because Abhimanyu isnt given to pronouncements...

by the way, loved the line to Huda 'since you are given to blowing your own trumpet, you should play the trumpet'... that is the line to which my mom reacted... she said 'his spoken english is so good'... my mom liked something about Gaurav... i am truly disappointed.... part of the fun of liking him is that he's so not the take home to mamma types... lagta hai mom type ke log bahut fida hone wale hai Abhimanyu pe... so help me god!!

Incidentally, mr dialogue writer, music does not flow... yeh ganga nahi hai... what does he/she/they (very tempted to write 'it'!) mean by the line 'music mein effort nahi hoti?'... it takes an amazing amount of work... tabhi toh maine kabhi koi instrument nahi seekha... main sirf baatein hi kar sakti hoon, mehnat nahi 😆 😆

Anyway, to come back to the analysis,... i liked the scene with Naina as well... Teena woh tum analyse kar lena 😛... as for the yudi falling into water thing, all i'll say is that the people behind the show really need to work on the other tracks... and the second scene i pick is definitely the kabhi kabhi one... this time not so much for Gaurav's acting as for the scene itself... Gaurav was good, but then this was Abhimanyu without the persona, Abhimanyu with his friend... it was a serious conversation and so less of a challenge... also, he always does these kind of scenes well... i liked the half smile playing around his mouth both times when he asked probing questions... good touch, i thought.

Teena i know you're dying to talk of Amitabh and Gaurav so will leave all the drooling over similarities to you ('yun ki, yun hi' pe maine tumhe bahut yaad kiya!)... also, vandana i agree... why the hockey stick?... but i thought the scene worked well in that it captured the tension and yet the comfort between these two people well... for once, the dialogues were just right... but when Rajeev said 'mindblowing', mujhe bahut wierd laga... aadat hai Gaurav se sunne ki... then i thought friends always end up speaking one another's language!

What i liked about the scene is that almost everything in it was implied... as audience we got so much more from the scene than what was actually said... there are posts on this forum saying 'abhi must have loved nandini'... 'this is what must have broken the friendship'... but if you pay attention to the dialogue, very little was actually said about either nandini or naina, or about raj and abhimanyu themselves and yet so many possibilities were hinted at... this rarely happens on tv... wiase Gaurav ke scenes mein bahut baar hota hai... but for an entire scene to work like this is definitely rare... take a bow script writers, you're back to being humans in my book!

Of course, using dialogues from Kabhi Kabhi was a good idea... the lines suggest loneliness and lost love and at the same time are completely familiar... waise bhi Gaurav ko kahaan aur koi film ka aur koi dialogue aata hai!! Again, i liked the fact that while reciting the lines, he was piecing together broken glass... and yet again, without drawing any special attention to the fact that he was doing so.

The Gaurav Rajeev scene at the end was great too... ab main frame by frame analysis nahi karne wali but liked the mock gun thing, liked the heaving a semi mock sigh before asking 'is there anything you havent forgotten?' thing, liked hearing the word 'khansaama' rather than bawarchi, (me, i like the simple things in life and if they are related to food, so much the better!), liked the breaking up of the 'i like chinese food'...

chalo i'm done for the day. enjoyed the episode... am beginning to like the show. Here's to hoping it stays that way.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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da musis class part waz boring...da rest waz good....
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: whynot

Hi. I'm back with my analysis but this one has to be short today... unfortunately, hai aur bhi gham duniya mein ghame mohabbat ke siva, hai aur bhi kaam jeevan mein gaurav ko dekhne ke alaava 😆 😆

Thanks for your short (Nanha Munha ) analysis Shvetal....😛 I will get back to this ..😃. unfortunately aur bhi gum hain zamaane mein.....😉

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Shvetal.... you have said everything... so I dun have much to say.... 😊

Originally posted by: whynot

So just three scenes... liked the class room scene a lot... thats the challenge of a character like Abhimanyu... Abhimanyu works at two levels... he has a persona, as so many of us have... this is the jovial, ever charming, ever talkataive, unable to let something be Abhimanyu... it partly emerges from the nice guy he is... its partly also a defence against being considered arrogant because of his royal background...( this Abhimanyu though is also a surface... a lot of people will know this Abhimanyu and get along well with him, some may even know that there is a deeper layer to him, without knowing that deeper layer very well... but so far that deeper layer has emerged on screen only when Abhi has been with Rajeev... remember the scene where he said 'achcha hoon... bahut achcha hoon' when Rajeev asked him on the first day 'kaisa hai tu?'...look at Gaurav's expression in that scene... now imagine if one of the students were to ask him 'aap kaise hai?' and how do you think he would respond?... with Rajeev Abhi is less persona, more himself (yes i do still remember that he's a fictional character)... thats why i think his relationship with Naina still has to grow... he is still persona with her, as with everyone else except Rajeev.... I agree Shvetal… this persona which is at the fore most of the times….(and with everybody… Naina, his students)…but with Naina its considered as flirting…. But the fact still remains he is most of the times naturally charming and talkative….as his character is…. He has actually not started to impress her….He still has to do it…and with Rajveer inner layer interacts as well as the outer persona...)

Now why is the class room scene interesting?... thats because persona is hard to do... if one is doing joviality, one wrong slip and it can become buffonery... also one needs to convey that this is a persona so it should operate at the surface level... at the same time, a persona becomes a part of the person, so it should not seem false or artificial... persona is not disguise, with a real personality hiding behind the disguise... persona is another, different reality... i think Gaurav is doing this very well, without going over the top about it... in fact, the only moment which jarred me a bit was when he asks them 'why music' and did the hand gesture of playing a guitar...(ya that was a jerk movement…. And was not required… he could have said that without that movement…) i thought that wasnt necessary but the pitch of the rest of the scene was just perfect... i especially liked his individual interaction with all the students... again, Gaurav could have done this more overtly... made everything he said seem significant and imbued with meaning, but he didnt... because Abhimanyu isnt given to pronouncements...

by the way, loved the line to Huda 'since you are given to blowing your own trumpet, you should play the trumpet'... that is the line to which my mom reacted... she said 'his spoken english is so good'... my mom liked something about Gaurav... i am truly disappointed.... part of the fun of liking him is that he's so not the take home to mamma types... lagta hai mom type ke log bahut fida hone wale hai Abhimanyu pe... so help me god!! ( yes God please help her…)

Anyway, to come back to the analysis,... i liked the scene with Naina as well... Teena woh tum analyse kar lena ...

Thanks Shvetal… scene with Naina… I liked the way… he understood the tension and said…" Since you did not take this, he could not eat…." And then he directly probed … and changed the tone in the end…. Saying "Interesting"…. Assuring himself that he will find out the reason…and in one simple scene story moved forward…. Abhimanyu could see so much which was unsaid… I liked the way this scene is written …. Very simple and normal dialogues but yet conveying so many thoughts and feelings of everybody…. Rajveer, Naina and Abhimanyu….and Moreover I could see Abhimanyu doing all this very charmingly…. I dun think it was flirting… but a gesture of being friendly and at the same time being charming and impressive…😉

Teena i know you're dying to talk of Amitabh and Gaurav so will leave all the drooling over similarities to you ('yun ki, yun hi' pe maine tumhe bahut yaad kiya!)

Similarities between Amitabh and Gaurav, he reminds of Amitabh in many scenes… but I do mention it if this stays for long….In classroom scene…the way he talked to everybody … specially to Huda…. " Aap bhi hamaari class mein hain…."… 😛

... also, vandana i agree... why the hockey stick?... but i thought the scene worked well in that it captured the tension and yet the comfort between these two people well... for once, the dialogues were just right... but when Rajeev said 'mindblowing', mujhe bahut wierd laga... aadat hai Gaurav se sunne ki...( oh you have heard him saying " mindblowing.."… I have only read it…😛 ) then i thought friends always end up speaking one another's language!

What i liked about the scene is that almost everything in it was implied... as audience we got so much more from the scene than what was actually said... there are posts on this forum saying 'abhi must have loved nandini'... 'this is what must have broken the friendship'... but if you pay attention to the dialogue, very little was actually said about either nandini or naina, or about raj and abhimanyu themselves and yet so many possibilities were hinted at... this rarely happens on tv... wiase Gaurav ke scenes mein bahut baar hota hai... but for an entire scene to work like this is definitely rare... take a bow script writers, you're back to being humans in my book!

I also liked this scene because we rarely do get to see such light , simple scenes in daily soaps… very day to day conversation between two men…. The way men do… playing, talking and getting to know so much about each other…. And I was thinking why did dialogue writer gave him lines fROm Kabhi Kabhie…. 😆

Of course, using dialogues from Kabhi Kabhi was a good idea... the lines suggest loneliness and lost love and at the same time are completely familiar... waise bhi Gaurav ko kahaan aur koi film ka aur koi dialogue aata hai!!( Nahin Nahin Shvetal…. " Main aur meri Tanhai…"😆 ) Again, i liked the fact that while reciting the lines, he was piecing together broken glass... and yet again, without drawing any special attention to the fact that he was doing so.

The Gaurav Rajeev scene at the end was great too... ab main frame by frame analysis nahi karne wali but liked the mock gun thing, liked the heaving a semi mock sigh before asking 'is there anything you havent forgotten?' thing, liked hearing the word 'khansaama' rather than bawarchi, (me, i like the simple things in life and if they are related to food, so much the better!), liked the breaking up of the 'i like chinese food'...

( yeah Rajeev Gaurav scene at the end… I think friends can connect to this scene…. Friends meeting after a long time… both of them have gone through their share of experiences… have grown up and changed inside… and remember old times …)

chalo i'm done for the day. enjoyed the episode... am beginning to like the show. Here's to hoping it stays that way. ( I also hope that it stays the way it is… simple scenes… and not over the top… hero entering on a cycle trying to save heroine for 4 goondas… dun want to watch that again…)

Edited by superbike - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: anamikaaa

da musis class part waz boring...da rest waz good....

I liked all of it!

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Thanks a lot. A big hug to you for the appreciation!

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: superbike

Thanks for your short (Nanha Munha ) analysis Shvetal....😛 I will get back to this ..😃. unfortunately aur bhi gum hain zamaane mein.....😉

You're always welcome sweetheart... aur yeh to specially aapki farmaish pe hi likha tha. 😃

You know i always write short posts, have short conversations with people.... main toh bolti hi kahan hoon. 😃

Achcha tumhaare bhi zamaane mein gham hai... mujhe toh lagta hi nahi tha ki tumhe jeevan mein koi kaam dhaam hoga 😉 😆 😆

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Thank you for the analysis.
Gaurav looked so good in the last scene......... he should always wear red!!!!!!
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Posted: 18 years ago
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superbike, i like your analysis too. 😊
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Nice analysis 👏 👏 👏 ..i loved the last scene...Raj-gaurav share a awesome chemistry which could be seen in that scene

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