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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: -bharti-


hi bart, please forgive me for such a late reply..pure slothfulness..Ganpat is right, 'ganpat ki beti became bhao ki baiko'.👏 cause i was dreading that he would get married to the wily nily sups.😈But Im ignorant hammie of other shows copying this and failing which is natural cause LTL was unique. Thank you for yet another brilliant analysis of an episode, what an anticlimax from the previous. oh that's a pity, but it was long time ago ab tu mujhe bhi yaad nehi bart.

Hi hammie jammy, maaf karna i luv experimenting with names but sobreity calls for restraint😆 so not too many.

😛 thats fine no problem, one can say I ask for it..😆

Dutta's matrimonial debacles. lol... the title itself is amusing. He is the only man in history marrying the same woman thrice i gues. Thank God didnt get to witness the third one. And Thanx to tahera for this request. It was worth watching once again and reading your thoughts hammie 👍🏼 haaa hoo interesting may be true..but explosive stuff it was..

It was an epic moment even though not a pleasant thing but it was shockingly spectacular. Dutta the don had lost all reason and rage engulfed him. The intensity in his words matched his actions and every action displayed his deep sense of betrayal and vengeance against naku.the script in particular.. you are correct was very strong.. coupled with Mishal's acting.

Luved how he pushed baji from the mandap at gunpoint 😃 even when he was holding naku's hand anin the process of the phere. The way he chided the pandit to continue with the mantras, the stare he threw at AS when she refused to hand him the mangalsutra everything made a delightful drama. But felt sorry for naku for the way he applied i mean rubbed the kumkum. Naku looked a perfect bali ka bakra. He wanted to punish her as well as himself yes the actions will forever stay in our memories..mind you his command "ayeee pandit"even makes me chuckle now due to his dadagiri!

The guests, the family all frozen at the events unfolding and helpless in front of a raging dutta. But i felt kishore's indifference was slightly out of character. Babi did what was expected of her. And the symbolic foot imprints of the two smeared with blood indicated that this was in a way divinely destined relation. Even the evil personified kalwati cringed at her not so loved brother's behaviour.well described bart!👏..but to me it always seemed a tragic liaison.. they would forever be apart.. one has only to look at the end of LTL1. 28th March 2011.

It was amusing to watch him stand on the balcony and announce to all for blessings on his suhaag raat. Gosh for a sec when he latched the door i felt he would force himself on her,😲 err i mean assault her but thankfully he was all sober in his abode. no way was that going to happen colors ensured that he two actors maintained a distance.. the balcony scene I quite liked his cynicism..could be angled in a veiled way of being forced to marry.. supriya..

He expected some answers, real truth as he completely believed the story weaved by kala. "Arey bolna meri dharampatni" 😆 he screams but naku is as ever tongue-tied 😡 Him standing on sups photo gave a little satisfaction amidst all the ruins in the name of marriage. Pitied him when he was admonishing himself for trusting her so easily. All along wondered why there was a strange empathy towards him even though he was brutalising a woman. Infact was seething with rage at naku's deafening silence. It was the most irritating thing in the entire episode.yes a folly one unknowingly commits when having affection for another..

2nd clip: It was all so believable for him cause as you put it the circumstantial evidence indicting her, well done hammie, criminal investigation ki lingo bol rahi hai 😉.. "tujhe ek aurat ne pani piladiya", how naive he was to assume that a woman was incapable of treachery when he had seen seema. "Tune dutta ko haradiya" hahaahaa true, she does it finally if not now and not in the way he meant but with her love. I believed along that the person he hated most was himself.. for being so easily beguiled.

Atlast! she opened her mouth and explains her POV Thank Heavens!!! His interrogation frequently turns violent and holds her neck 😳 to make his point. But one thing remains constant, him addressing her as naku woh bhi pyarse😃 He only promises her his hatred, pain and wrath in this marriage.yes I suppose he does use an endearment, naku.. but here again he should have maintained a distance, as I saw no point.. he was disgraced publicly not by one but bytwo woman..naku/supriya..

Ab hamara number kab ayega jaani.. 😛😆 after I finish the second section of his marriage.. ap ka number tu sar ankhoon pe bart.Thanks ever so much for a great comment, keep visting the thread.. even though you deal with a lazy hammie.. with much love.. as ever yours xx hammie.

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: FASSBEN


HI Hamlet53
hi Fassben, great to see you mate

Thanks for picking Dutta and Nakku first marriage I must say it was sad when I saw this for the first time on TV the pain and the public humiliation which both of them faced in the own way which I really did not like but the way Mishal and Mahhi carried the track was too good that you could not stop. Yes I agree with you they have been a few shows now that are trying to do the same style but it nothing compare to LTL1.yes i too recall it was shocking to watch,my cuz were visiting they hated it.. the neck strangling ..shows what lengths colors go to for trps.. and i guess other shows to.. but colors is master in copying ltl1.. itself yesterday my cuz was watching madubala and the exact location and feel of dutta's faceoff with kala was repeated.. where madhubala and all of rk's family held at gunpoint .. 😆😆 haaa hooo..

Thank once again as always look forwards another old scene take care.
thanks mate, for your comment , with much love xx as ever yours hammie.

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: dilse14


hi hamlet hi dilse, nice to see you mate.
this scene one of the crucial i am glad you include it i just luv the thread😊

happy that you enjoyed the clip.. some more will be followed soon ,so dekhna.. thanks with much love xx ,as ever yours hammie.

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Nakusha


hi naku... tu ah gaye.. good to see you
hi hammieee

wht a selection this scene is part of folklore .it was copied by many but nobody recreated it
the original stand with its unique position ..smashing dutta(in real sense dhoka & thod fuda)😆 & enduring naku beautifully explained naku...
this scene i was ancipating for ages ..was happy when sups ran & finally our pair got married
ab is mein kitni saachai hai naku?? yes i suppose to formality of marriage, but no in the true sense..
MR& MV deserve all appreciation ..loved it
yes its true the pair were extremely competent ..
hammiee as always u r amazinggg😊
thanks for your comment naku, with much love xx as ever yours hammie

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: mirage123



hi hamlet hi mirage, great to see you mate!
every post of yours is superb! i still feel awed when i watch this clip great post😊
baat sun you are so kind, me humbled..😛.. ok do catch the next lot of clips.. many thanks for comment , with much love xx ,as ever yours hammie.

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: jedy25

Hi hamlet
hi jedy great to see you mate

MR delivered the superlative performance ...MV was too good ...brilliant writing by you😊
yes both brought the scene alive.. thanks you enjoyed the clips, thanks for your comment ,with much love xx ,as ever yours hammie.. do watch the next set of clips..

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Posted: 12 years ago

Dutta's matrimonial debacles

part 2.

clips 15,16,17.. requested by Tahera.. clips courtesy .. beees11.. Rabia..👏

Theoretically the first two clips have to be a neat reminder of sequence of events that led to Dutta and Nakusha's repeated marriage dissary.There is apprehension towards what's to become now, especially so when the audience is already in the loop of how things really are. Nevertheless, what strikes me is the stark contrast of Dutta's mood in the first clip, when held in comparison to his previous highly strung so to speak nuptial night. One finds here a mellowed, matured Dutta, who speaks his heart, mind and soul with fine alacrity.With ease he is able to articulate his confessions and justifications of his past actions.The scene for me, sums up Dutta's pleas for forgiveness from a lone clearly mute figure of the woman he considers to be real.The more he enunciates his honest admission of mindful revenge he carried out against her, the more sorry I felt for him , as his words might as well have been spoken to a blank wall.How he lays bare the stark truth with each revelation of his, that revenge took away his power of discernment of right from wrong! My spirit groaned due to the fact that she already knew the whys' of his actions against her.. it was Dutta who knows not the complete truth about her. It was as if he turns himself inside out , but to what avail?

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zQ3X5TPkMc[/YOUTUBE]

and so continues the self evaluation of the protagonist. This time we have Dutta's frank admissions of his characteristic stubbornness. His inability to see and recognize love when it was all along under his nose, and finally the declaration that accept he did her, when threatened by the fear of losing her..

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKkjGpYeUX0[/YOUTUBE]

To me this final clip is nothing short of a tragedy, a great man yet again scorned ,spurned and made fun of time again..his honesty, his reformed self once more betrayed.. to the point of insanity.. once again he faces duplicity! once again his infallible judgment of people in error.. Nakusha's battle against his perception of who she is and who he loved is indeed hopeless to watch.. Yet for me all her plea's disappear like ripples of water in a still stream.. as to forefront comes the susceptibility of past deception that he constantly faced ,and now seemingly faces again ,just when he thinks he's got it right.."there is method in his madness of what follows"...

Hamlet53..27.1.13

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWDlhVG7Ym8[/YOUTUBE]

Edited by Hamlet53 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
Hi Pandeyji 😉
Dagabaaz re, tore naina bade dagabaaz re.. tagline for naku...from my side

"Tumne toh asteen ke saap ko bhi peeche choddiya naku", says dutta n ironically its true.
She betrayed his trust time n again. She took the high moral ground everytime to justify her lies n inactions, but it was her cowardice, her fear of losing him, her distrust in him, her misplaced notion that what she did was for his benefit which destroys him almost.
Its because of his inner strength to learn n correct self does he survive the endless back stabbing by seema, by kala by naku, by sudarshan, morey, damodar, AS..gosh everyone including baji his most trusted lieutenant
My simple argument is that naku never understood dutta truly, cause if she had then she would be aware of his weakness, his hatred for dishonest people.. She had many opportunities to come clean right at the begining when the seeds of their bond were sown in JMM1. Even with all his follies, his rage, this man had it in him to confess and make mends. He only wanted a new begining, a clean slate, everything afresh but naku instead gifts him another body blow with her face revelation on the wedding night. God! its so painful to hear him speak when u know the deceit infront.

In the first clip he says that you didnt utter a word of protest, yeah he,s right she never opened up when it was imperative to, cause it was easy for her that way. She had spent the better part of her life in hiding her real face n also used to the loathe. He,s greatful for naku for turning him into a human but she also brought out the devil in him more than any other.
Many times one mistake cowardice to tenacity. Naku was a coward and it was easier for her to bear the pain inflicted by him than speak the truth. Otherwise any self respecting human being will not remain a mute spectator to injustices irrespective of who the perpetrator is, the husband the parent or even ones own child. "Guna karna jitna paap hai utna hi bada paap hai guna sehna", that is the ultimate truth for me.

The second clip is the worst, eyes well up hearing him pour his heart out and one can only shudder at the oncoming storm of which he is blissfully unaware. This only goes to say honesty is not the best policy and straight trees face the axe first.

Losing his cool is what,s expected of him at that juncture. Its surprising he doesnt lose his mental balance totally. What follows is more dhoka from all corners... poor guy asks "kya yeh mazak hai" ? yes it was the most cruel joke that fate had in store for him. Even when he sees the similarity in the two features of kali naku in the frame n the gori naku infront, he refuses to accept. What does a man in his shoes do, nothing less than murder i feel lol...
Hammoo you have in brief described beautifully the sad n pitiful situation dutta finds himself in... I would also add that this entire FR was beautifully filmed and both the actors did full justice 👍🏼

luv to post this song video but will only post a few lines of d same dutta should sing 😆
"Dil ko hazaar baar roka roka roka
Dil ko hazaar baar toka toka toka
Dil hai hawaaon ka jhonka jhonka jhonka
Dil ko bachaana, dhoka na khaana
Dhoka hai pyaar yaar pyaar hai dhoka - 2
Dil ko hazaar baar roka roka roka"
Edited by -bharti- - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
hi hamlet
its a beautiful scene & clip ...dutta losing temper was bit scary ..MR was extremly real
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Posted: 12 years ago
hi hammiee
final clip😕miss karonge
it was one of the best scene dutta opened his heart for naku ,his confession abt first meeting when she walked into her life he did felt something for her ,
every word & expression was superb .MR was amazing .turn from loving husband to shock at realisation of been hurt & fact hidden from him ..its was MR at best
hammiee the thread was amazing each clip & post (ur view point)loved it
as always ur amazinggg hammiee😊

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