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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sub_rosa

@Ana....let the creatives do their job yaar...why should we stress ourselves thinking of future tracks. It's their show and if they fail to come up with interesting tracks, they'll suffer...we as viewers always have the option of switching over to something else....


I was itching to keep myself from posting in this thread because such paranoia and nitpicking about the show, story, characters, writers, director, etc. seems to have become endless, regardless of the fact that LTL has been getting it together and right finally this month. I'm tired of repeating it but the show is still very much the same in essence and execution that it was in 2010. Yes, there have been no 'wow' scenes in a while, and there was the whole of January spent in no-man's-land because of other issues, but this has happened before too, a lull of sorts, from which they bounced back magnificently time and again, surprised us all and made us eat our words. So Rosa, I do have to post in absolute agreement with your post above in which you've so concisely said everything...why the constant fretting and questioning? Step back and give them a chance to do their job. If they don't satisfy, each and every one of us is more than capable of finding something else to watch. Their loss, we'll move on. But let's hold our horses and actually see what they do before prematurely worrying and going all doom-and-gloom. And I love LTL but this is just a show at the end of the day. It's not worth boiling your blood over. Watch and enjoy (rather than distressing) as long as you can, till whatever may be the bearable limit, and then eventually all good things do (and will) come to an end anyways...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@Rosa: Yes I feel MR has been sleep walking thru his role. Nothing since Jan has made me go 'OMG! I cant take my off my screen' when he's been onscreen. Only time it happenned was for the special episode that too for Kala. Maybe to some extent for the episode when Dutta realizes he is Seema's house. Lets see if Dutta gets the focus back on him and MR is again back in the groove.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: make-believe


I was itching to keep myself from posting in this thread because such paranoia and nitpicking about the show, story, characters, writers, director, etc. seems to have become endless, regardless of the fact that LTL has been getting it together and right finally this month. I'm tired of repeating it but the show is still very much the same in essence and execution that it was in 2010. Yes, there have been no 'wow' scenes in a while, and there was the whole of January spent in no-man's-land because of other issues, but this has happened before too, a lull of sorts, from which they bounced back magnificently time and again, surprised us all and made us eat our words. So Rosa, I do have to post in absolute agreement with your post above in which you've so concisely said everything...why the constant fretting and questioning? Step back and give them a chance to do their job. If they don't satisfy, each and every one of us is more than capable of finding something else to watch. Their loss, we'll move on. But let's hold our horses and actually see what they do before prematurely worrying and going all doom-and-gloom. And I love LTL but this is just a show at the end of the day. It's not worth boiling your blood over. Watch and enjoy (rather than distressing) as long as you can, till whatever may be the bearable limit, and then eventually all good things do (and will) come to an end anyways...


My thoughts Exactly! why are we scanning things?? and more then that Comparing current with the past??? Every phase has its charm, the first meeting, falling in love , realization ..they are not bound to generate the same feel! .. in this whole who is doing what and who could be better analysis is somehow spoiling the whole fun .. i tend to keep myself away ...and end up enjoying the Episode more! Execution of past few episodes has been Great! the Un predictability which had been missing since december is now back!! making things more Interesting then before! and Like Fatty has put, its just a show! and a Much much better show then what we are getting on Indian Tv these days .. so enjoy the ride and stop thinking abt such minor issues they are Very common in television industry.. Take the show and episodes as they come! that is how it should be ... thats how i always end up enjoying LTL in some way or the other..



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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: make-believe


I was itching to keep myself from posting in this thread because such paranoia and nitpicking about the show, story, characters, writers, director, etc. seems to have become endless, regardless of the fact that LTL has been getting it together and right finally this month. I'm tired of repeating it but the show is still very much the same in essence and execution that it was in 2010. Yes, there have been no 'wow' scenes in a while, and there was the whole of January spent in no-man's-land because of other issues, but this has happened before too, a lull of sorts, from which they bounced back magnificently time and again, surprised us all and made us eat our words. So Rosa, I do have to post in absolute agreement with your post above in which you've so concisely said everything...why the constant fretting and questioning? Step back and give them a chance to do their job. If they don't satisfy, each and every one of us is more than capable of finding something else to watch. Their loss, we'll move on. But let's hold our horses and actually see what they do before prematurely worrying and going all doom-and-gloom. And I love LTL but this is just a show at the end of the day. It's not worth boiling your blood over. Watch and enjoy (rather than distressing) as long as you can, till whatever may be the bearable limit, and then eventually all good things do (and will) come to an end anyways...

But Fatty its also important to give timely constructive criticism. Sitting back and relaxing might result in unpalatable crap-fest like those huge K shows which were BIG in terms of viewership and yet was all crap. Viewers were forced to lap them up for the lack of anything better. Its better to watch a decent story which ends at a logical point. And to get that even viewers have a hand in it.
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Posted: 14 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: SAraW


My thoughts Exactly! why are we scanning things?? and more then that Comparing current with the past??? Every phase has its charm, the first meeting, falling in love , realization ..they are not bound to generate the same feel! .. in this whole who is doing what and who could be better analysis is somehow spoiling the whole fun .. i tend to keep myself away ...and end up enjoying the Episode more! Execution of past few episodes has been Great! the Un predictability which had been missing since december is now back!! making things more Interesting then before! and Like Fatty has put, its just a show! and a Much much better show then what we are getting on Indian Tv these days .. so enjoy the ride and stop thinking abt such minor issues they are Very common in television industry.. Take the show and episodes as they come! that is how it should be ... thats how i always end up enjoying LTL in some way or the other..



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Posted: 14 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: make-believe


I was itching to keep myself from posting in this thread because such paranoia and nitpicking about the show, story, characters, writers, director, etc. seems to have become endless, regardless of the fact that LTL has been getting it together and right finally this month. I'm tired of repeating it but the show is still very much the same in essence and execution that it was in 2010. Yes, there have been no 'wow' scenes in a while, and there was the whole of January spent in no-man's-land because of other issues, but this has happened before too, a lull of sorts, from which they bounced back magnificently time and again, surprised us all and made us eat our words. So Rosa, I do have to post in absolute agreement with your post above in which you've so concisely said everything...why the constant fretting and questioning? Step back and give them a chance to do their job. If they don't satisfy, each and every one of us is more than capable of finding something else to watch. Their loss, we'll move on. But let's hold our horses and actually see what they do before prematurely worrying and going all doom-and-gloom. And I love LTL but this is just a show at the end of the day. It's not worth boiling your blood over. Watch and enjoy (rather than distressing) as long as you can, till whatever may be the bearable limit, and then eventually all good things do (and will) come to an end anyways...

You said it, girl! I mean, I know the last few months have been kinda crazy, what with new characters, storylines, and less focus on TaSha and esp. Dutta! I think it was mainly because of all the offscreen politics. I admit, I found the TaSha magic missing the last week, but then again I never gave up hope. And yes, the only reason I refuse to give up on this show is because, as you rightly said:
but this has happened before too, a lull of sorts, from which they bounced back magnificently time and again, surprised us all and made us eat our words.
Take the Saturday special episode for instance! That was the classy show I first fell in love with! We've had people fall out of love with this show, over time, because it just stopped being magical for them. I was scared that this was happening to me too...the last few weeks. But y'day, I realized that I simply cannot give up on the show. THe problem with us is, we worry too much. Instead of letting the story unfold, we worry about what could happen. I mean, it's as much their show as it is ours. And while I completely agree with fighting against stupid decisions (like Dutta/TaSha being sidelined/Mishal being replaced) I think we need to let things run their course. They've taken worse themes and surprised us with the outcome! Remember, when we had dark Naku marry Dutta, there was a huge outcry...but the CVs proved their point in the days that followed, with some brilliant scenes like the SR night, Dutta's outburst and his anger! Again, while everyone kept on saying how Dutta wasn't relenting, I personally found it very convincing that it took Dutta two near-death experiences and a prolonged separation to admit that this woman means the world to him! She's shattered his pride, and how! 😊
The only thing I'm not liking about the current track is Seema. UGH...the woman gives me the creeps. I mean, Kala's creepy too, but she's classy...this woman is simply.......! The triangle LS is not something we ever wanted to see in LTL, but trust me, Dutta only loves Naku and this is just to cement that fact. And to make Dutta come out with his feelings for Naku maybe! Sigh. I really hope we get to see an angry, possessive Dutta! 😃
I think we need to let them tell their story...yeah, we do have better ideas but let us see what they have in store for us! 😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: kshreya2002

But Fatty its also important to give timely constructive criticism. Sitting back and relaxing might result in unpalatable crap-fest like those huge K shows which were BIG in terms of viewership and yet was all crap. Viewers were forced to lap them up for the lack of anything better. Its better to watch a decent story which ends at a logical point. And to get that even viewers have a hand in it.


Yes Ksh, with which I totally and absolutely agree and even said a few days ago that Colors should be made well aware of what the viewers appreciate in their show, what they would hope and love to see in the future rather than demands and questions all the time. Because there is a difference between constructive criticism and beating a dead horse with repetition on issues that were never set right or resolved before (like editing, bloopers, off-screen drama) and probably won't be in the future either. It's a part and parcel of how these daily soaps and the media game works and either we accept that or keep on saying the same thing, over and over and over again with the same results. And I'm not saying that we shouldn't speculate or we shouldn't voice our opinions or discuss something if we found it off in the episodes...not at all, because I do that myself countless, countless times. But LTL has proven that it is different, it is not like those BT shows, so to see this kind of paranoia and pessimism is surprising to me...ESPECIALLY when the show is still running on the very same elements that it always has...Dutta, Nakku, and their journey towards each other through all the other characters and hurdles. The depth and development to the characters is still there...but if you let a thousand other speculative worries cloud your mind while watching a scene, of course it looks like everything points towards 'the end'...one shaky camera angle, they're being careless...Dutta is quiet, a little too mellow and inactive, must mean they're planning to write him out...everything looks like something to worry about when you start looking for too much and into those things that are beyond the screen. So yes, it's great to discuss future tracks, what we want to see, what will be good to see...but to ignore that they are presently doing a fine job too and only express displeasure with what is happening is harsh, don't you think? Especially when the team behind the scenes has not changed either after the FR. If we are worried about how the story will develop, we should also remember to balance it out that daily soaps work on a very short-term schedule and scripting of tracks and scenes is done pretty much on a day-to-day basis in which things change...A LOT, due to many factors involved and not necessarily out of choice. If we are worried some more about how the story will develop, LTL should have inculcated at least this much faith and patience in us, with its previously unique treatment and twists, to wait and watch and let them portray the story they are trying to tell without completely writing it all off because we are feeling that some one thing is missing or not clicking with us at this point in time. I think it deserves this much. And by all means, we should freely discuss the good and bad of the show, we should speak our minds...but once again, there's something called beating a dead horse...things have settled down at present and we need not pull up the worries and questions from a month back now to work them into our dissatisfaction with the show. Give the show a chance, watch it on its own merit, for what shows on screen, for what the plot is at the moment and what it requires...and I'm sure that the episodes will seem very much like LTL, as it was before and always.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: kshreya2002

@Rosa: Yes I feel MR has been sleep walking thru his role. Nothing since Jan has made me go 'OMG! I cant take my off my screen' when he's been onscreen. Only time it happenned was for the special episode that too for Kala. Maybe to some extent for the episode when Dutta realizes he is Seema's house. Lets see if Dutta gets the focus back on him and MR is again back in the groove.


I can understand your concern Ksh wrt to Dutta not being in the thick of things....and his scenes not being as powerful as they used to be! But the term 'sleepwalking' implies a lack of interest on the actor's part, and I object to it. I think MR has done his part with as much earnestness and passion as always and has made the most of whatever screenspace he was given. So, we must agree to disagree here!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: make-believe


Yes Ksh, with which I totally and absolutely agree and even said a few days ago that Colors should be made well aware of what the viewers appreciate in their show, what they would hope and love to see in the future rather than demands and questions all the time. Because there is a difference between constructive criticism and beating a dead horse with repetition on issues that were never set right or resolved before (like editing, bloopers, off-screen drama) and probably won't be in the future either. It's a part and parcel of how these daily soaps and the media game works and either we accept that or keep on saying the same thing, over and over and over again with the same results. And I'm not saying that we shouldn't speculate or we shouldn't voice our opinions or discuss something if we found it off in the episodes...not at all, because I do that myself countless, countless times.
I agree on this. Some issues will never get resolved due to the constraints they work under like bloopers, editing glitches. The offscreen drama is an interpersonal relationship thing which the parties involved can only sort out among themselves. I am not expecting things in this direction to change irrespective of how much hue and cry we make.
But LTL has proven that it is different, it is not like those BT shows, so to see this kind of paranoia and pessimism is surprising to me...ESPECIALLY when the show is still running on the very same elements that it always has...Dutta, Nakku, and their journey towards each other through all the other characters and hurdles. The depth and development to the characters is still there...but if you let a thousand other speculative worries cloud your mind while watching a scene, of course it looks like everything points towards 'the end'...one shaky camera angle, they're being careless...Dutta is quiet, a little too mellow and inactive, must mean they're planning to write him out...everything looks like something to worry about when you start looking for too much and into those things that are beyond the screen.
This too I agree...everything looks negative if you want to view it that way. But of the sakes of our own sanity we better retain our positive attitude.
So yes, it's great to discuss future tracks, what we want to see, what will be good to see...but to ignore that they are presently doing a fine job too and only express displeasure with what is happening is harsh, don't you think? Especially when the team behind the scenes has not changed either after the FR. If we are worried about how the story will develop, we should also remember to balance it out that daily soaps work on a very short-term schedule and scripting of tracks and scenes is done pretty much on a day-to-day basis in which things change...A LOT, due to many factors involved and not necessarily out of choice. If we are worried some more about how the story will develop, LTL should have inculcated at least this much faith and patience in us, with its previously unique treatment and twists, to wait and watch and let them portray the story they are trying to tell without completely writing it all off because we are feeling that some one thing is missing or not clicking with us at this point in time. I think it deserves this much.
You have a point but I think as viewers we should make our point too about the future track. I think many CVs come to IF to check on feedback about shows. Saying 'All is well" all the time may end up harming out interest as viewers(read entertainment). In this thread too most responses are suggestions abt the future track rather than criticism of the current track. Who knows we might manage to give the CVs some ideas!
And by all means, we should freely discuss the good and bad of the show, we should speak our minds...but once again, there's something called beating a dead horse...things have settled down at present and we need not pull up the worries and questions from a month back now to work them into our dissatisfaction with the show. Give the show a chance, watch it on its own merit, for what shows on screen, for what the plot is at the moment and what it requires...and I'm sure that the episodes will seem very much like LTL, as it was before and always.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Agree with that for the past month or so, but the focus is back on him now. Its Dutta all the way...and I think the track demanded it at the time for Dutta to lay low...and now he is back and how :)


Exactly! It was the requirement of the plot that Dutta lay low for some time....even the blindness is a huge plot-point I think, coz the moment he regains his sight, he'll show both Seema and Kala their respective places!

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