My son--really? ?? - Page 2

Originally posted by: gmgi

Though I agree with all your points I just wanted to write from Vicki's point of view. Tomatoes and chappals are welcome. But couldn't help it😆

How will anyone feel when you see your own father value his sisters family more than you? How does it feel when you are asked to attain the unreachable standard of your brother but with continuous taunts and good for nothing chants? Yes he does have a father who is a father to his brother more than him. He grew up seeing his parents never respecting each other and the only person who valued him and accepted him as he is, was his mother who was never appreciated for who she was as a person. They were a middle class family and for them PF is equivalent to life security. So breaking a PF is a very big deal for them. His father by doing what he did, saved Ria's life and he couldn't have done it without his family's support even if grudgingly given. But where they ever appreciated? This had happened some 20+ years ago. But the hurt that Vicki felt is still there fresh in his mind.

Why do Vicki and RR feels that they have to compete with the Dixits for everything? Why do they feel that whatever the Dixits have is rightfully theirs? The answer lies in the treatment meted out by Mamaji. This rivalry has its origin in the way he treated them. Nothing they did was ever enough. The Dixits when they lost everything had a common goal and they worked together towards it. But what was Vicki's and RR's fault in all this? Why they had to suffer along with them? Why they had to reach the Dixit's standards?

When you tell your kid that you are stupid and good for nothing and to try to be like someone else they will just be what you say you are. When he felt that nothing he does is going to make his father feel proud of him he stopped trying and became what his father told he was. He stopped respecting people when he was never given that respect and also since he never saw his parents respecting each other. He never learned that you have to earn that respect. How will he? Whatever he did which was looked upon as something bad, when repeated by Dev, it never got the same treatment. Dev breathed for his family and tried everything he could to be a better person for his family. When that family was taken away from him he became a goalless person just like Vicki and became like Vicki. But these past 7 years Vicki tried to become like Dev. He dressed like Dev, changed his wayward life after marriage, stopped drinking and teasing women and went to office to work just like what Dev used to do. The resemblance between them was superficial but even after trying hard did his father appreciate him? Did he feel proud of his son for carrying the burden of the family on his shoulders when Dev started living like Vicki? Did he ever rebuke Dev for his way of life when that was all what he did with his own son when he used to do the same?

Right or wrong he feels that the Dixits became what they are now with the help of his parents some thing that only he had a right for. He found a kindred spirit in Elena because they both suffered because of the good and over achievers of the family ie Dev and Sona. When they felt that their family will never approve of their relationship they didn't go for a live in relationship but got married and went back to their families. But they were looked down for what they did where as Nikki was able to get away with what she wanted to do. Dev came drunk home for 7 years. No one said anything. But one day he behaved the way Dev behaved for the past 7 years everyone took it upon themselves to show him how wrong he was.

Regarding Golu he was conceived with the sole purpose of being the Dixit heir. Both Elena and Vicki were not ready for taking that responsibility. But they were ok with Dev's attachment with him because it served their purpose. He doesn't have a father figure whom he looked upon to be that father to Golu. Now he is seeing that he had lost everything that he worked for. From the moment Sonakshi came back the Dixits started getting stronger and he saw his own mother who took care of everyone when everyone was in mourning in tears because she felt she was being used and thrown out as usual. There was again no appreciation for what they did all these years. The way he reacts now is expected of someone who is on the verge of losing everything. And he knows he is. His greatest fear is losing Elena and that is why he asked her to leave him if she too thinks him bad. He was never good enough for anyone. He is tired of fighting with a ghost because that is exactly what Dev's image is for him. He wants to finish Dev Dixit his greatest adversary for ever. Because he knows he would never win this fight.

He is going to lose everything he holds dear. But I pity him. No body is born a monster. Monsters are created.

superb post 👏
Thought provoking and amazing point of view.I really expected someone to express Vicky's pov .so thank u so much .and my post is honored to have ur reply 👏 👏 .
I reply it in a seperate post. Quoting is difficult for me 😃

Thank you for ur awesome reply @gmgi.
I agree to ur every line.

I have only few questions for him .
Dev treated u as his own brother.
After seeing him heart broken- devastated in these past 7yrs too he didn't even have an iota of guiltiness or pity of him.???

He never tried to make him worth of his ceo post and never tried to get a place in his son's heart.
Ok he chose to remain a monster but why he blame dev as he is the reason for all..
That's what I felt wrong.

Originally posted by: Cspcheziyan

Thank you for ur awesome reply @gmgi.
I agree to ur every line.

I have only few questions for him .
Dev treated u as his own brother.
After seeing him heart broken- devastated in these past 7yrs too he didn't even have an iota of guiltiness or pity of him.???

He never tried to make him worth of his ceo post and never tried to get a place in his son's heart.
Ok he chose to remain a monster but why he blame dev as he is the reason for all..
That's what I felt wrong.

Although I haven't watched d episode..but it's totally Vicky, Elena n GKB's fault..so Dev can't be blamed at all..Vicky is always yelling on Golu..n no child likes to be wid a person who's always irritated

Great post and equally interesting replies. More than Dev and Sona, I am more interested to see what's in store for vikky because looks like finally his day is nearing. Karma never loses an address. Now it's tripati's turn. I never liked the way bijoy and mamaji treated their sons but thank God that Sourabh didn't turn like Vikki. Mamaji may be failed as a husband and father but why Dev and Sona should suffer for his mistakes? If we are willing to listen then even a psycho killer also have a POV but that doesn't make their deeds right. There is a saying that even a dog won't bite the hand which fed them, I can't even compare mami and Vikki with them since it will be an insult for them. There is nothing wrong in dreaming big till you work hard to achieve those. But dreaming big by robbing others hard work and building your castle on the tombs of others happiness is definitely wrong.

Recently I came across this series on Netflix. It is named-- Dharmakshetra. What attracted me to this series is is concept and idea. It goes like this. The kurukshetra war is over and now the main characters of Mahabharata are assembled in Chitragupta's court to review who is responsible for the war. Each of the character is put on trial, accusations are hurled and the accused has to justify his actions and words both during and before the war. It is very interesting because every character is questioned, no one is spared including Pandavas, Krishna and even Vyasa. The accusation against Vyasa is why he created the characters as they are. It is a very interesting series because it deals with right and wrong and intentions are taken into account but are reviewed against the actions. Meaning just because a character had noble intentions, he is not relieved of his responsibility for the negative consequences. Like Dronacharya is held responsible for fighting even though he is a teacher, or Duryodhana alone is not held responsible for breaking the rules of war and using deceit. Couple of other things is no one can lie, they are forced to tell the whole truth and there is no place for sentiments, feelings and sympathy. You cannot claim to be a victim of anything. At the end of each trial, Chitragupta gives judgment. It is very interesting and am really liking it as it shows Mahabharata in a different angle.

I feel KRPKAB is also influenced a lot by Mahabharata. Some time ago I had compared Vickky and maami to Duryodhana and Dritarasthra. Now I feel I am right in this comparison. There were a lot of bad traits in Duryodhana,but he was a good person too. He took care of the subjects during his father's rule, stood by Karna when no one was ready to accept him, gave him that honor, respect and made him king and gave a kingdom for him to rule. All his negative feelings were directed only towards Pandavas. Pandavas on the other hand had lot of good qualities, but also had some negative qualities too. Like Arjuna telling Dronacharya to ensure that Ekalavya didn't become a better archer than him or refusing to fight Karna during the convocation ceremony citing the caste difference etc. Here too Vickky's resentment of Dev is a result of maamaji's neglect and maami's continuous talk of entitlement. Just like kurukshetra had to happen for Dritarashtra to accept his son's wrongdoings, something big has to happen for both maamaji and maami to accept their follies.

Just my pov.

Originally posted by: cscs

Geena, i really agree with your thought process that monsters are made not born. Ndefinitely Vicky's parents are responsible for his state. But after being an adult one cannot blame his/ her upbringing for long because you learn a lot from your own. N also you have to own responsibilityof your actions. Just like Devakshi sees everything "Rosy" from their love glasses, in similar way Vicky also sees everything from his "victim" POV.

Yes one can understand his thinking and from where it is emerging, but that doesn't spare him from his deeds. He has created a self made blindness around himself and cannot see anything beyond it. He has been given support at various times, but he prefers to remain in his own world.N that's where I cannot pity him.

Agree with everything you've said Charu. I was not trying to vindicate him. But just trying to see the why. He is responsible for whatever he has done and will learn the lesson the hard way. But I do pity him. He is a lesson to parents on how a parent should not be. They wanted their son to be like Dev but never did anything substantial for that and now their son is going to be completely lost. If they had only appreciated and nurtured what they had. 😃

Originally posted by: Shaavi

Recently I came across this series on Netflix. It is named-- Dharmakshetra. What attracted me to this series is is concept and idea. It goes like this. The kurukshetra war is over and now the main characters of Mahabharata are assembled in Chitragupta's court to review who is responsible for the war. Each of the character is put on trial, accusations are hurled and the accused has to justify his actions and words both during and before the war. It is very interesting because every character is questioned, no one is spared including Pandavas, Krishna and even Vyasa. The accusation against Vyasa is why he created the characters as they are. It is a very interesting series because it deals with right and wrong and intentions are taken into account but are reviewed against the actions. Meaning just because a character had noble intentions, he is not relieved of his responsibility for the negative consequences. Like Dronacharya is held responsible for fighting even though he is a teacher, or Duryodhana alone is not held responsible for breaking the rules of war and using deceit. Couple of other things is no one can lie, they are forced to tell the whole truth and there is no place for sentiments, feelings and sympathy. You cannot claim to be a victim of anything. At the end of each trial, Chitragupta gives judgment. It is very interesting and am really liking it as it shows Mahabharata in a different angle.

I feel KRPKAB is also influenced a lot by Mahabharata. Some time ago I had compared Vickky and maami to Duryodhana and Dritarasthra. Now I feel I am right in this comparison. There were a lot of bad traits in Duryodhana,but he was a good person too. He took care of the subjects during his father's rule, stood by Karna when no one was ready to accept him, gave him that honor, respect and made him king and gave a kingdom for him to rule. All his negative feelings were directed only towards Pandavas. Pandavas on the other hand had lot of good qualities, but also had some negative qualities too. Like Arjuna telling Dronacharya to ensure that Ekalavya didn't become a better archer than him or refusing to fight Karna during the convocation ceremony citing the caste difference etc. Here too Vickky's resentment of Dev is a result of maamaji's neglect and maami's continuous talk of entitlement. Just like kurukshetra had to happen for Dritarashtra to accept his son's wrongdoings, something big has to happen for both maamaji and maami to accept their follies.

Just my pov.

Wonderful post. I agree to all the points. Vikky should first be clear what he wants in life. He wanted to use his son to usurp all the Dixits wealth which is the worst a parent can think about his/her kid. Never gave a damn about the poor kid and suddenly he wants to parachute into his life