wtf - 17 may - Page 2

Originally posted by: estee

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wtf#1-q: so... what's with gayatri-mom? well. i think: i think she knows she is terminally ill. and she is doing her best to make sure her kids are fine before she dies! *heh. were you expecting that??! 😆*

and i think gayatri-mom thinks that her kids are fine -- except for vitchface ...and prem! *heh! i bet you weren't expecting that! 🤣* which leads to...

* wtf#2: gayatri-mom being stressed 'bout vitchface. this may look obvious, but i think that gayatri-mom knows more 'bout vitchface's sorry state of brainlessness and evil than she is letting vitchface know. evidence? that admonition to vitchface and shrimp maya that she can't stand dirt in her life and they should clean up. evidence? that little speech 'bout cute pups growing up to be noisy.. er... female dogs. 🤣

i wonder though -- what is gayatri-mom thinking on the shrimp maya?

* wtf#3: gayatri-mom being stressed 'bout prem? well, if she is indeed dying, she wants prem to be happy without her around. now, she knows that heer will make him and keep him happy. but i think that she also now worries about heer -- as her daughter! -- just as much as she worries about prem! she wants prem to stand up for heer in front of the rest of the world whenever heer needs him to. even if the rest of the world means his mother! herself! that would convince her that prem would indeed stand by heer no matter what!

Estee. I am complety with you on this. this is what I wrote last in one of threads. However I think she more worried for kids than Heer

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When Gmom and lalu were in the room it was clear in gmom's eyes that she was so worried about all her children equally. And also in one of the previous episodes she makes a statement which makes more sense now "only Mom knows what she is doing, when she determined god gives her strengths etc ."

1. She is definitely worried for prem as he is the softer one, in spite of his abilities he is vulnerable when it comes to his family(in good sense), will be crushed easily by the bad elements within the family as he doesn't take assertive steps ..
2. She is worried about Veera as she doesn't understand the world very well!! girl doesn't even have her own mind, very shallow and greedy. It is very easy to ruin somebody like that.
3. I think she was hurt by Kul di a little bit to. (please don't beat me for this). I had mixed feeling about Kuldi when she was getting ready to leave the house.
4. Even though Harshman is good now, it is easy to manipulate somebody like him especially given the wife like maya.
5. Preet suffers if Prem does.

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* wtf#4: btw, i think that she might've found out that vitchface destroyed her own foetus when she found out that she herself was terminally ill? i bet she went to the same doctor... or the same hospital for some tests and found out?
but i keep thinking that it's not possible for gayatri-mom to keep calm and quiet if she found out that vitchface had destroyed her own potential grandchild. 😕no matter how badly she wants to teach vitchface a lesson, how can gayatri-mom keep this to herself??! 😕 ooh! unless of course, she thinks that if everyone in the family found out, they would totally kick vitchface's scrawny ass! hard and out of the house! and being her mom -- and being gayatri-mom! -- that's not something she could bear? 😕

Good prediction!! I really want it to unfold this way!! some how Gmom to should find out abt Veera's truth .
I think since she know she is devastated. You clearly see how restless she is all the time. she has Prem so many times that he should take care of Veera no matter what, after she is gone.

* wtf#5: why do i believe this teach vitchface such a dramatic lesson theory for gayatri-mom's behaviour? well, 'cause i think that she is really tired of vitchface bringing these anti-poor and anti-maan-girls feelings up again and again! she has already gone through one episode putting prem through the hoop to teach vitchface how to have a ''perfect'' attitude. she has already cried in front of prem's dead mother's photograph wondering how her step children shine, while her own children ... um ... don't shine that much! 😆 and she chose prem-heer to teach vitchface the lesson 'cause
a) prem-heer-are-one will always hold and gayatri-mom trusts them from the depth of her soul
b) in stressing prem-heer's relationship, she gets to teach vitchface not just how a perfect girl and guy behaves 'bout wealth and relationships (and blah-blah). but also how a perfect marriage works! two birds, one stone and all that jazz anyone? 😆

and i think that if she was not out to teach vitchface a lesson, that would be totally completely not-gayatri-mom! so there!

Well, "Drastic Times Call For Drastic Measures"!!! I am sure there be huge drama similar to DJ's last year when this is all revealed.!! I hope somehow Veera's comes to senses some day before it is too late.

* wtf#6: btw, harman finding out 'bout shrimp maya's ulterior motives could be an interesting development, no? i mean, he could probably put two-and-two together with all this deep love between vitchface and shrimp and think that they're cooking something unpalatable?

*wincing as i hear melissa's sarcastic laughter in my head reminding me that harman doesn't come with an inborn ability to think at all, let alone be this smart! 😆 but... as you all know... i am hopelessly hopeful. and harman is one of my pet projects to be hopelessly hopeful about!!! prem's bharat and all that... 😆*

Mee too!! I am hoping that this dump heads Harman leases some brains from somebodysoon!! 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

Well he is already suspicious But I would love to see him taking some steps to investigate more. I also think he will do something like. Well he is getting paid for this role and has not done anything significant yet!! It is better he acts than "simply sitting and monthly getting".

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Originally posted by: shabo24

First of all - a proper welcome back? WELCOME BACK E! *tackle hug* How was the trip? Nepal? Found a cure yet for EPE? Well BD had a very interesting idea and you played quite a crucial role in it - so here you go when you get time - this was what was happening with the forum....

http://india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1170944

😆 thanks, shabz. *rubbing the back of my head fiercely yet tenderly* i feel most welcomed now. 😆 tell me, how've you been!? are you totally in charge of that huge list of things you were in charge of doing?

er... ''bd''? er... ??

Gosh E, these punishments are still here.....*shuffles off to the corner*

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• I blame this on the creative change. I mean where is the mother that told DJ off and told her the meaning of mother and motherly love and taught her that she had 5 children not 3, here she is making Kuldi cry and Prem pick....something iffy here....i know!!! iff's putting it mildly! i'd have got her getting all upset and against the entire rest of her family -- just 'cause of things that vitchface feeds her 'bout her ''real'' child?? totally unbelieveable. *pondering...* almost as unbelieveable as prem not giving two hoots and staying away from heer and the junejas -- letting them suffer the agonies of thinking he is dead, darnit!!!! 😲 -- after that blast!! seriously! why do they insist on stretching credulity this much??!
  

• I think that Prem and Heer reached a point in their relationship where Prem somehow somewhere ranked higher. I really wanted Heer to stand up to him- even though she knew he was obeying his mother - - I don't want a misunderstadning - I want equality in their relationship - I feel like that is lacking...to an extent....but shabz -- heer did stand up to him, no? i actually kinda thought the one thing that turned me off in that entire segment was ... how dramatic prem was. i mean, i didn't figure how it could've been necessary to (a) have heer come back from nihaal's house and (b) prem giving her 10 minutes to take off at the gates of the jzoo! that was totally ... hysterical. but i did like how heer was with nihaal on principle of nihaal being right. and i liked how she understood that prem (being prem) really had no choice but to go with mom's diktat. ugh but understandable -- from a heer pov! 🤔 in real life, neither prem or heer can ever exist. but prem-heer-are-one and that continues to make sense for me, at least till right now. and *sigh* i understand where you're coming from -- but i'm afraid that prem-heer are equal -- but in totally different ways. and we have to take that too 'cause that's what their characters have been -- from the beginning and probably will be till the end! only thing i wonder is: given that hc and ag are two such intelligent actors, how will they keep playing these impossible characters??! which is why i do hope they wind this show up before the end of the year! 🤔
• How is that good? Maybe she thinks Meher isn't feeding him enough - but I really really am not liking this barriar she is trying to put up between her children.... well, it was good 'cause she looked genuine to me! as simple as that. that's probably naive of me. but until then, gayatri-mom had just been coming across as twisted. this was such a refreshing change! 🤔

Hmmm there is a thought - but ... I still suspect the "fake track"...only cus it's BT and god knows how many times that has been used... oooh! so even you think that gayatri-mom's faking it, huh?! *wondering if i should start keeping count of who are the faking believers this time... wondering if we believers of faking theories tend to be the same... 😆*

NOW THERE IS SOMETHING I DID NOT THINK OF! Good thought - but there is too much "mamta" in her - she would have BURST - and we would have been treated to a loooooooooong bashan and k3g music. 😆
😆 hey! we'll still get that! is just that she's probably trying to set up so that when she finally ... ''bursts'' 😆 everyone else will be too shocked or stunned or something to want to kick vitchface out of the house. i'm hoping that they'll still want to ... kick vitchface though!
😆
Dude - that segment with the ride home with the goats - I was laughing wondering if you were going to start a Maya-is-a-good-being-she-cuts-down-on-her-carbon-footprint or its equvalent....

🤣 shabz! that'd have worked if she'd ridden the goat to get home!!! 🤣 as it was, she was riding in a (probably) badly polluting diesel engine vehicle... 🤣 no way the shrimp maya's gonna get a ''good person'' stamp for me!

which is why I want Prem-Heer to seperate for a bit - cus that means more Meet!

me? i'm greedy -- i want both!! 😍

*dreams into space* The potentiol vitchface has.....massaging Nihaal's legs while wearing a bengali sari - if I see that, I can die happy! 😃

🤣 where? where do you get these scenarios from??! you are not bengali by any chance, are you? 🤣

They don't just keep their promises - they exceed the expectations - wonder what mrs.premjuneja has up her sleeve....🤣

y'mean, other than her husband's hand? ☺️

finding prasad was not work *shocked* It was FUN! *giggles* I never knew worshiping was this fun - as for my dignity - I never had it. 😆 Gosh - where have you been?
🤣away from this phorum, that's for sure!! i'm sooo totally out of touch with what's what!! so sorry! 🤣

*sigh* That was beyyyyooootiful! *bows humbaly, silently asking god and godess to please let her pass her exams which finish in exactly one month today - she really needs to excell in order to still have her internet acess*

oooh! *making notes in preetstess scrolls to put up extra and continuous prayers for meetsciple shabz -- who'd make sure the idols are as sparkling if shabz doesn't have internet access!!!?? 😲*

*pretending "like always" that she is meher....*

*coughing delicately to catch shabz attention* er... shabz? worship is perfectly done. meetsciple drooling, dreaming, ... heck, even desiring is perfectly permissable. but er... (goddess) impersonation? even as a self-inflicted hallucination? definite (divine) frown-inducing. 😆

*sticks toungue out* Oh thank (god) Preet I am not the preetstess! 😆

ya, ya, we know, 'kay? *fiercely suppressing like instinct to stick tongue out back! and chanting ''preetstess' need dignity, meetsciples don't!!'' over and over again in my head... 😆*

cya than....hopefully...*fingers crossed*

keeping fingers crossed with preet's premi... g'd luck for the exams -- when's the next one?

Originally posted by: shantaus

When Gmom and lalu were in the room it was clear in gmom's eyes that she was so worried about all her children equally. And also in one of the previous episodes she makes a statement which makes more sense now "only Mom knows what she is doing, when she determined god gives her strengths etc ."

2. She is worried about Veera as she doesn't understand the world very well!! girl doesn't even have her own mind, very shallow and greedy. It is very easy to ruin somebody like that.
i'm not sure that gayatri-mom knows that vitchface is greedy and shallow. i don't know 'bout you -- but i've always been very confused by how gayatri-mom keeps saying that vitchface ''has a good heart''. i have never - ever! - once seen anything 'bout vitchface that makes me want to believe that, have you? all we've ever seen was someone who always wanted money.

where is this good heart part of vitchface?! where? 😕
3. I think she was hurt by Kul di a little bit to. (please don't beat me for this). I had mixed feeling about Kuldi when she was getting ready to leave the house.
😆 you should know that i'm gandhian -- we never (or try never!) to physically hurt anyone. besides beating won't help me understand your pov. i ... think that i appreciated what kuldi was trying actually. i think that she was making as strong a statement as she could 'bout how disgusted she was with what was going on in the house! somehow it seemed like that was the switch that made gayatri go to heer and ask her to come back to prem. so i think that kuldi's attempt at righting gayatri-mom's position actually worked -- but only to a little extent though.

what i'd really like to see is kuldi finding out about this whole vitchface and shrimp maya plotting! i mean -- why isn't she getting suspicious of all the time that they are spending together? i wonder if harman and kuldi will talk about what's happening in their families one day and together discover that these two are spending way too much with each other -- doing absolutely nothing for the house or anyone in it! why doesn't anyone ever question this weird no-work policy of vitchface and the shrimp??
4. Even though Harshman is good now, it is easy to manipulate somebody like him especially given the wife like maya.
or! once he has been through so much disillusionments, he will be more cynical and less manipulable? ya, i know! i should come with a warning-sticker: hopelessly hopeful -- even about the most apparently slow characters! 😆
5. Preet suffers if Prem does.
y'think that's really what gayatri-mom thinks? i've always been soooo dismayed at how gayatri mom ignores preet. i somehow think she's ignoring him in this whole episode the same way again! note how she never calls either harman or preet to help with vitchface's case? why? why?? why??! forget the real brother part -- just as a plain brother??!

Well, "Drastic Times Call For Drastic Measures"!!! I am sure there be huge drama similar to DJ's last year when this is all revealed.!! I hope somehow Veera's comes to senses some day before it is too late.

me? i think that vitchface veera has no senses that she can come to her senses! she is just the most boring caricature of a character ever! 😛 let her get swallowed by a blackhole, i say!! 👏 😆

Originally posted by: estee

😆 thanks, shabz. *rubbing the back of my head fiercely yet tenderly* i feel most welcomed now. 😆 tell me, how've you been!? are you totally in charge of that huge list of things you were in charge of doing?

er... ''bd''? er... ??

You should! I'm good - last year of playing lacrosse - so hopefully next year should be easier....*fingers crossed* and oppsie - should enligten you - BD = BhavDi. Smart na? 😆

• i know!!! iff's putting it mildly! i'd have got her getting all upset and against the entire rest of her family -- just 'cause of things that vitchface feeds her 'bout her ''real'' child?? totally unbelieveable. *pondering...* almost as unbelieveable as prem not giving two hoots and staying away from heer and the junejas -- letting them suffer the agonies of thinking he is dead, darnit!!!! 😲 -- after that blast!! seriously! why do they insist on stretching credulity this much??! i say g-mom needs a serious "blind-ness award" i mean can she not see how many times vitchface keeps on stating that fact over and over and over and over again...I mean I know they say that mother's love is blind but still - desperate need for contacts no?
  

• but shabz -- heer did stand up to him, no? i actually kinda thought the one thing that turned me off in that entire segment was ... how dramatic prem was. i mean, i didn't figure how it could've been necessary to (a) have heer come back from nihaal's house and (b) prem giving her 10 minutes to take off at the gates of the jzoo! that was totally ... hysterical. but i did like how heer was with nihaal on principle of nihaal being right. and i liked how she understood that prem (being prem) really had no choice but to go with mom's diktat. ugh but understandable -- from a heer pov! 🤔 in real life, neither prem or heer can ever exist. but prem-heer-are-one and that continues to make sense for me, at least till right now. and *sigh* i understand where you're coming from -- but i'm afraid that prem-heer are equal -- but in totally different ways. and we have to take that too 'cause that's what their characters have been -- from the beginning and probably will be till the end! only thing i wonder is: given that hc and ag are two such intelligent actors, how will they keep playing these impossible characters??! which is why i do hope they wind this show up before the end of the year! 🤔That's what I'm trying to say! That I really beleive that this whole "onesness" in love can exist - but why do the characters them selves have to be so impossiable. I mean Ekta should really be aiming to a wider audience than passion deprives mother in laws that sit on their dollie covered couches eating snacks their poor daughter in law's made for them wondering how else to torture their bahu while their son watchs on....i mean.....ugh....this is what happens when you are a femanist! 😆

🤣 shabz! that'd have worked if she'd ridden the goat to get home!!! 🤣 as it was, she was riding in a (probably) badly polluting diesel engine vehicle... 🤣 no way the shrimp maya's gonna get a ''good person'' stamp for me! i dunno E....you are the founder of hte hoplessly hopeful group...with you anything is possiable....

🤣 where? where do you get these scenarios from??! you are not bengali by any chance, are you? 🤣lol...nope...me a hydrabadi....😆...but you have to admit - you want to see it as well....

oooh! *making notes in preetstess scrolls to put up extra and continuous prayers for meetsciple shabz -- who'd make sure the idols are as sparkling if shabz doesn't have internet access!!!?? 😲* err . question - what is meetsciple. sounds like an icecream bar......OHHH! Meet-chocolate bars. ☺️

*coughing delicately to catch shabz attention* er... shabz? worship is perfectly done. meetsciple drooling, dreaming, ... heck, even desiring is perfectly permissable. but er... (goddess) impersonation? even as a self-inflicted hallucination? definite (divine) frown-inducing. 😆so sue me. 😆

cya than....hopefully...*fingers crossed*

keeping fingers crossed with preet's premi... g'd luck for the exams -- when's the next one?
aha 🤣 they have not even started yet - me ish busy with family reniuon happening from now to whenever people decide to leave, school, freinds and lacrosse....and volunteering....god knows what i'm even doing repling to this when I should be wiping away whatever havoc my cuzins have mad in the kitchen....

Originally posted by: estee

Originally posted by: shabo24

should enligten you - BD = BhavDi. Smart na?

oh!!! *making notes of one more name for bhav... 😆* seriously, what's with bhav and many names???😆

• i say g-mom needs a serious "blind-ness award" i mean can she not see how many times vitchface keeps on stating that fact over and over and over and over again...I mean I know they say that mother's love is blind but still - desperate need for contacts no? 😆, y'mean, corrective eye-surgery! well, the real question is whether she really is that blind to her children's flaws, no? i think shanta (shantaus) points out that gayatri-mom used to know everything her kids needed earlier -- and that she knows exactly what vitchface is up to now... i guess we have to w&w... unforutnately, sigh!
  

• That's what I'm trying to say! That I really beleive that this whole "onesness" in love can exist - but why do the characters them selves have to be so impossiable. I mean Ekta should really be aiming to a wider audience than passion deprives mother in laws that sit on their dollie covered couches eating snacks their poor daughter in law's made for them wondering how else to torture their bahu while their son watchs on....i mean.....ugh....this is what happens when you are a femanist! 😆 i am hoping you do'nt have to be a feminist to want an alternative to what we used to see on the old saas-bahu shows. and i'm firmly gonna trust in prem-heer-are-one and hope that we don't get to see it here on this show!!! *keeping fingers fiercely crossed on this! 😳*
  

i dunno E....you are the founder of hte hoplessly hopeful group...with you anything is possiable....

🤣anything doesn't cover being like gayatri-mom, and constantly parroting that vitchface has a ''good heart''!!! if i ain't seen it ever, i don't believe in it!!! 😆
🤣lol...nope...me a hydrabadi....😆...but you have to admit - you want to see it as well....

heh. i have other scenarios that .. uh .. do not involve vitchface having anywhere as cozy a life as being covered in a ... uh ... clean sari, and pressing someone's feet, in a ... uh .. clean house! heh. and no, i'm not elaborating on this! 😆
err . question - what is meetsciple. sounds like an icecream bar......OHHH! Meet-chocolate bars. ☺️

oooh! good thought... but no, meetsciples are ''meet disciples'' 😆 sorry. i do agree that it's not the best name... should think of another one. (''preetsciples?'' 😆 ''meethippers''? -- as in ''meet worshippers''? no? hmmm...)

aha 🤣 they have not even started yet - me ish busy with family reniuon happening from now to whenever people decide to leave, school, freinds and lacrosse....and volunteering....god knows what i'm even doing repling to this when I should be wiping away whatever havoc my cuzins have mad in the kitchen....

🤣shabz!!! omg! there are more beings like you in the world -- causing havoc whereever they go??!

well, i hope you have fun and phun and everything good. see ya later.

Originally posted by: sourpuss

Yo E! Did ya miss me on Friday's bt, lt? I saw it on Saturday night, and by then I had just come home from my second party that day (my baby cousin's birthday! She turned FOUR! And she was so precious!!!) and I was, to put it simply, pooped. So I skipped that. Instead, I'm here at the wtf! Which I missed so much! *hugs*

yea, i missed you... wait a bit! weren't you the one who used to ... bark? meow? moo? at the start of every reply? 😆 and i... quacked back??! *wondering why the heck i'm going here... 😆* oooh, but a four year old cousin??! oh, those are adorable! i loved my nephew best between four and six. now he's all of seven and acting like... a man! and just barely tolerating being hugged ... well, in public. in private though, he's quite the snuggle bunny... 😆

but nevermind the cute tiny monsters! how was the ballroom tea??!!!

I think personally I need more clues first before I want to jump to assumptions. (Okay Monday late-mornings aren't a very good time for replying to wtfs...And it doesn't help that there's a piece of chocolate cake that I have to abstain from in the fridge...) Question though: would the same doctor that does abortions do check-ups for old women?

*sigh* totally agree with needing more clues before concluding. but clues are sooo vague on this show, no? i mean, you can actually conclude a wide range of things given what we are told!!! i mean, after that little demonstration by prem of i'm-prem, no-i'm-not, i'm-prem, no-i'm-not! i'm actually in the mode of sitting back and only believing prem-heer moments and meet moments... the rest they can tell me. it would just be nice if they did it at a more sane pace than they are using just now! 🥱

er... the doc question is probably too profound for balaji telefilms! but gynacs can do abortions? and mebbe gayatri-mom needs to visit the gynac for ... uh ... hormone supplements post-menopause? 😆

But what if she pushes them just a little bit too far? It's just a 'what if'.

no, no, that's a totally na-mumkin-hai what if -- which makes it a non-what-if! *even more stubborn muh!*

I kinda don't want her to do that. I want her to be genuinely trying to break them up, because that might be easier for me to accept. Like how it's easier to accept that Prem screamed at Heer rather than he screamed at her to see her reaction. Because that was just stupid. So if G-mom breaks up her son's marriage just to teach Veera a lesson, it would be stupid. If that really happened, and if I was Heer or Meher or something, I'd so give G-mom a smack on the back of her head.

*sigh* while i totally get the line 'bout prem's screaming at heer, i'm not so ... sanguine 'bout gayatri-mom and breaking up prem's relationship. prem has turned quite... duffer-ish! and hyper since his entire death experience, donchya think? *which death experience i'm soooo gonna use as an excuse to forgive some of his duffer-ishness! 😆* but gayatri-mom? gayatri-mom's working to save the soul of her child -- and she may just be using the strongest asset she has -- that prem-heer-are-one forever! if stressing them can save veera -- and as she believes, they will prevail and survive that (hopelessly hopeful) momentary pain -- then, for gayatri-mom, it could be worth it, causing them that stress? 😕🤔

but it would be interesting to see growth for Vitchface. I thought that maybe after Nihaal stood up for her (so don't remember when!), she'd maybe grow up a little. But noooo. She's Vitchface. I don't think it's possible for her to grow. The sky will fall when she does. 😆 Okay yeah being way too dramatic here, but whatever...

ya! totally with you on this one!!! have no clue how they hope to achieve this one!!! i mean, they can bring prem back from the ''apparent dead'' -- but vitchface to the good side of the force??!! 😲

Like they need to show that Meet are truly in love (i.e., Meher and Preet need to ADMIT that they're in love with each other), they need to kick Maya out of the house, they need to bring in at least one kid that isn't Kulraaj's...I think...Meh. Whatever.

😆😆😆 and here, i was thinking that both meet and prem-heer are like each other in one respect -- their love for their own-true-hearts are written so clearly in their eyes that they do not need to admit that they're in love!!! but 'cause meet are our real-world couple truly-made-for-each-other, i suspect that's gonna happen in parallel with this attack on prem-heer-are-one... and the reformation of vitchface.

All hail (gods) Meet! The prayer today was...funny. But so appropriate! And btw, it was the Handmaiden who compiled the highlights every week. I think we should give a round of applause for her, because she's awesome, but then again, that's just me. 😃

😆 no, this one i'll give you ... it's not just you! as you can see, we were living on stolen/borrowed/lifted! prasad this week. so thanks for the prasad, oh meetsciple with multiple identities! 😆 *btw, why are you referred to by multiple names? i can hardly recognise you when other people talk 'bout you! *

*sigh* no, i'll have to put my purchase of the ptg on hold for a while... till i get myself some freedom from work. you're right -- i'll probably end up going awol for a while over the next coupla weeks... *sigh*

see you! have fun! and don't forget to tell us tales of the high tea! 🤗

Originally posted by: pooji123456789

yay thankz for sharin
with dazed eyes i offer u ur prasad love this one
nice