7 apr: big things, little things

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Posted: 16 years ago
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'kay, warning -- i think this episode wrecked my brain very badly. so if you'll find me laughing hysterically at places you think there was nothing funny, please try and forgive me? πŸ˜†
btw, did anyone else think this episode was filled with old memory associations? little things made me go ''hey! isn't that like when...?'' no? πŸ€”

* little thing: y'know? when prem came into the corridor and he looked up, i thought he'd stopped 'cause he saw heer....

* hc voice thing: omg. the way he said ''ha, ma''. you could barely hear it... perfectly done... 😍

* little thing: omg! he said ''haan, ma''! well, he would, of course. he thinks he's being gaurav sharma to this woman. who thinks of him as ''prem'' sometimes, ''son'' sometimes, ''gaurav'' sometimes.

y'know? if you really thought 'bout it... this whole who's who to whom thing going on between prem and gaurav-mom could drive you nuts! 🀣

* hc thing: 'kay. i want to know. how does hc (and sometimes ag as well) manage to get just one drop of tear, running a perfect lone path along his cheek? no really! when i cry, it's all over the place!

this guy is the most beautiful weeper i've ever seen! *thinking* if ever i needed to weep, i'd rather hire him to do it for me... 🀣🀣

* hc thing: he never ever gets prem wrong, of course.
but today? there was a little too much of the nostril-flaring-in-misery action going on, wouldn't you say? 🀣 *yes! i am hyperventilating 'cause my systems got overloaded on today's show... and i have to let it all out or go cuckoo! sigh! man, i hate prem... πŸ˜†*

* little thing: hmmm... did anyone get the impression that hc was working hard to hold in giggles at a few places today? πŸ˜†

* prem thing: omg. the words ''my work here is done'' is barely past his lips and he looks up to see... heer!

who has heard he is leaving. from whom he has no secrets. from whom he has taken away all that he has promised. the one part of his ''work here'' that he has left totally untouched and incomplete. heer, who knows all this.

is it any wonder that neither can't look the other in the eyes as they walk towards each other? even when he tries to look at her, he has to look away. and she? she can't even do that much.

that was a superb - superbly - done single moment.

* prem's voice saying ''heer'' thing:
omg. for all the times that i waited to hear the guy say ''heer'' in prem's voice - this episode almost made up for it.

-- when he's trying to get her to look at him -- ''heer..'' pleading, longing.
-- when he's telling her not to make his going away so much more difficult. -- ''heer..'' deep, almost angry, rather desperate. *what a mean thing to do -- leaving her, and giving her instructions on how he wants it done to boot! man! i wanted to haul off and give him a fierce one on the upside of his duffer-head then!*
-- in the very last segment when he's asking her what madness is this -- ''heer'' -almost imperceptible, ringing with a total loss of control, filled with a sense that he just cannot allow himself to hope for anything...
omg... in how many ways can i love prem's voice saying ''heer''? 😍

* little thing: the background tracks for this first segment were totally bang on today! well, maybe they could've dropped that thunder-and-lightning bit when prem sees heer... πŸ˜†

* prem-heer-nose thing: er... did anyone else notice in that cute phforeheadoooooh🀣 that ph noses formed the opposite edges of a perfectly formed ... parallelogram?? seriously! don't tell me no one noticed!?? 🀣

* little thing: 'kay, when they showed gaurav mom at that moment, spying on the phforeheadoooooh, who else thought she was looking rather worried? didn't it look like she was thinking: ''oh, pooop! when prem finds out that he has whole heart, not a holey heart 🀣, he's sooooo gonna kick my butt all over delhi! good for me, i'm well-endowed. poor dr. incompetent is gonna reach the moon when he gets to her!''

no? everyone else also told themselves to shut up 'cause prem's gandhian and would never physically hurt a woman? *other than heer, who he feels free to slap, of course! 😑*

* phhandooooooooooooooh thing: i've got to find another way to say omg... it'sboring tokeep saying it again and again, no? but o. m. g.

a phhandooh. a real one. starting from his eyes going down to her hands! and then .. omg!.. the way his eyes shut, as if that would get a better recording the feeling of her touch in his brain, as her little hands slowly moved up his arm to his hand. and ... o. m. g. ... the way his fingers naturally, instantly, without any thought, curled around hers...

it was phhandoooh as only prem and heer can do it. what is it 'bout these two that make their holding hands burn my insides?? i want to know!! *i'm asking in despair now...*

* old memory association thing: so, did anyone else remember the last time there was a phhandooh, and something outside the phhandooh, broke it up?

when the tear dropped from heer's eyes, and prem looked up startled, and slowly took his hand away from hers, i remembered the phhandooh after ''kyunki mein tumsey pyar karta hoon!'' when heer saw his engagement ring on his finger, remembered that he was promised to ash, and slowly took her hands away. and then turned and walked away from him, heartbroken?

wasn't this one totally like that moment? except that was heer walking away... now it's prem. πŸ€”

* lots of little prem-recording-memories things:
-- the contrast of the total joy and merriment on the faces of the ''guy gang'' and the quiet contemplation on memory-recording prem's face.
-- btw, editorial blooper here -- preet's voice was not on microphone! just when i started getting used to not having editorial bloopers, they've got to give us one! and that too involving preet! *preetstess sulk...*
-- totally loved how preet in his excitement dragged heer bhabhi into joining the fun! *sigh! all hail, (god) preet!*
-- totally loved how heer in a heartbeat switches from smiling at the guy's fun to noticing prem's misery... man! why does she love this duffer so much??!
-- and the moment heer's there, she is all prem can focus on. he can turn away from her, when she is there. but the moment she is gone, he just has to go after her... man! i just don't get how this guy keeps advising her to get married and a life of her own without him! has he seriously not understood what prem-heer-are-one is all 'bout??! *seriously puzzled muh*
-- oooh, their room with white muslin curtains dancing in the wind... that used to be such a huge part of olden times prem-heer, no? 😍
-- oooh, seriously cool moves that prem puts on heer as she's trying to get out of their room.. ☺️ looks like hc learnt quite a bit from his dancing stint. πŸ˜†
-- another phhandooh! where he doesn't even look at her. but his hand gets hers perfectly! kimmu's right -- prem is a duffer who doesn't getprem-heer-are-one. prem's hands? gets it totally! 😳 but i must admit -- the pheyeoooh here was ... mind-melting tooo... ☺️
-- er... prem? all those chocklits? for lj? are you trying (finally!) to kill lj? *triv, mel! was this your highlight?? 🀣*
-- but seriously, who thought it was mostly hc in that segment? those smiles were sooo not-very-prem-like. no? although looks like even hc can do that perfect one tear down one cheek trick that prem does... 🀣
-- sigh! after this segment, i could've given up my life to certify this is prem... black trousers, black shoes and ... *sigh* yes, white socks! πŸ˜†

* little thing: 'kay, there must be a good reason why gaurav-mom's staking memory-recording prem, no? gee, does she have that little faith that he will keep his promise?

*sigh* whereas me? i have full faith he will keep his promise and go with her... *sigh*

* little thing: ooooh, that whole gayatri-mom turning vitchface's stoooopid manipulation on it's head was totally outstanding!

i confess: when they showed vitchface and the shrimp, i loudly groaned. but i must admit i was grinning from ear to ear by the end. ha! what a perfect revenge on the shrimp! stuff her with sweets! ''angrezi bahu'' indeed! 🀣 i am sooo hoping that there was a tinge of the same maliciousness in gayatri-mom that we saw when she was making fun of dirtchachi in that fake ash-preet wedding fiasco...

* little thing: hmm... just like prem can't stop thinking ofheer, heer can't stop thinking of prem, no? *sigh* poor heer.

* irritating prem thing: man! is he a control freak when it comes to heer or what??!

first he instructs her. and then when she obeys him, he goes bossy and pushy! (but ooooh, how that moment sparked! πŸ˜†)

she calmly tells him to look at her, she won't cry. he instantly gets all frowny and challenging. he tells her to forget him. she says yes. and he's instantly going closer, as if he is trying to physically push her over the edge! he tells her to not love him. she says yes. and he's practically towering over her, yanking her into him, staring into her eyes, as if to read that it is a lie. as if to read the truth beneath that lie.

* heer thing: but i totally loved when he's trying to get under her skin -- literally! ☺️ -- her calm throws him off balance instead!

confession: i totally love prem off balance. i do. he's so perfect all the time. i love it, love it, love it when heer so easily flicks him off track, off balance, off control, oh... off his big mein-bhagwan-nehi-hoon-self! i love it. go heer!!

and then i love it when she doesn't push him all the way.... and instead gives him time to catch his breath. and his thoughts. 😍

*sigh* why does heer love this guy soooo much, damnit?? isn't not natural! *sigh, sigh, sigh* i hate heer and her prem! i do!

* big thing: know what i loved most bestest in that segment? (that's not bad english. it's just that there were many things i loved best in it... 🀣)

i loved how heer seemed to be in a totally different world from prem at that moment! no? prem was totally into ''i have to leave, i have to say goodbye.'' and heer? heer was into ''it's just not possible for you to do it''. prem was reacting to time slipping away, panicking. heer was all about contemplating prem-heer-are-one. totally opposite directions in thought, no?

''can you really do all this, heer?'' (yes, duffer. she can. she will. you need to take lessons... er.. we'd like to watch when you do, 'kay? πŸ˜ƒ)
''these winds are changing, i know you will stay with me''
''how can you say this so surely?'' (loved the puzzled look on his face here -- like he believes she knows and yet not...)
''this family will keep you here. these winds will keep you here.'' (oooooooh! heer did hear everything when prem said his wedding vows during "aaj mein prem juneja..." man! i love knowing that the eyes really talk to each other! πŸ˜†)
''you have so much faith? (in prem-heer-are-one)'' (of course she does! prem, you duffer!)
''my kismat will not betray me.''
''i didn't betray you -- it was my heart that did.'' (ooh, prem! you are her kismat? and you are walking away? duffer..)

and then starts the parallel thought track
''when did we ever meet, prem, that we can seperate? we were always, no?'' (ya! prem-heer-are-one! go heer!)
(and he?) ''i have only a few hours left''. (as if he hasn't heard what she said. as if he can't afford to!)
''you gave me prem back, i won't allow you to take him away again!'' (oooh, go, go, go heer!)
''i need to say alvida to you again.'' (prem looking panicky that all his time is vanishing and he is still not done)

and then came the bestest best line in the whole show:
''i'm afraid that i can't give you that freedom again.'' (oh, thank you, thank you, thank you, heer! you speak for allof us -- he was explicitly told never to say alvida again! she just saved him from going to jail on a contractual breach! heer, you rock!)

and duffer that he is, he tries again!
''please let me tell you alvida.'' (almost begging her. as if he really needs to! prem, you duffer.. 'kay. i confess. here i was thinking ''prem, you poor duffer...'' πŸ˜†)
''i can't even give god this freedom''
''what is the meaning of saying this?'' (he is truly truly puzzled now... almost frightened at the intensity of what she is saying?)
''it's not just you, i would fight this freedom away from even death!'' (omg, heer, i love you. i do. i mean, i really hate you. but just now? you're my greatest lovestory hero, you are! ⭐️)
''what madness is this, heer?'' (i loved his face here -- as if he is afraid she has gone mad in her grief. and yet, as if he is drawing strength from a hope that she may win this battle of love for both of them. i loved how he reached out to hold her face as if to read her eyes better.)
''some people may call it mad. but from another pov, it's just love. prem.''

heer: infinite, prem: 0 πŸ˜ƒ go heer!!

* heer thing: i love how she said ''prem'' at the end.

* little thing: hey! they tried bringing back the little puffs of wind back. but i think that hc's haircut ain't helping... those thick brown locks just refused to puff up off his forehead like they used to earlier...🀣 not that he didn't look good, or anything... still. wasn't the same, no? πŸ˜†

*looking back at the whole bt,lt* gee, this is ... not a very short one, is it??? 🀣 *sigh* blame prem-heer... hate 'em! totally! πŸ˜† *sigh* i have two more shows before i leave... oh, i soooo hope prem-heer-are-one will be before friday. *wondering if there's enough time i have in delhi to get to see the show and write a bt,lt before the flight to nepal... πŸ˜†*

highlight: heer's polite, firm, fierce denial of prem's request to say alvida to her again... woooohooo! go heer! at that moment, if someone had asked me to contributing all my life's earnings - past, present and future - to the religion of heer, i would soooo have done it!! πŸ˜†
um. prem's puzzled hopeless/don't-dare-to-hope face at heer at the end.😍prem, you duffer..πŸ€—

the entire first prem-heer moment. the phirst phhandoooooooh. the second phhandooooooh. the phirst ever phforeheadoooh. 🀣
gayatri calling the shrimp her angrezi bahu and stuffing her with indian ghee-filled mithai... 🀣
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Posted: 16 years ago
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You know the bit where Prem turns Heer around, and pulls her to him? I was so hoping they'd fade out there.. It would have been perfect no? Gayatri-Mom's wish to be a dadi would be fulfilled too.
But my favourite part of all, Gayatri and Kul Di feeding Maya sweets, and she not being able to say no. The look on both her face and Veera's were hilarious!
My replies to your bt,lts just keep getting shorter no? *sigh* I stopped paying so much attention to the show. Too much Maya and Veera. (the Shrimp and the Vitch)
Love,
Radz
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Posted: 16 years ago
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ephtee we were missing you in EDT last night look what we were thinking about πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†

Originally posted by: Soaps1










I can so imagine what would be Estee's poll question tomorrow 🀣



Originally posted by: ...Anita...



🀣 i was sooo thinking of her when i saw this pic!!!!!



See how much we miss you? πŸ€—

As for epi it was one of the best ever................sighs i can so understand where heer's hope comes from and where Prem's hoplessness is emerging from! heer's hope comes from the fact that prem, who she was told is dead , is standing right infront of her and there is no way she would let him go this time 😍 Prem's hopelessness comes from the fact that he believes he is dieing, he has lived with that thought for months....
......he is reluctant to make new promises to heer, give her new hope because he knows how he faltered on the ones he made earlier .......did you notice how hurt and angry he was when he said "mey ney tumhey koi dhoka nahi diya" ? Its guilt............and i don't believe he is leaving heer because of his family's happiness thats crap for me he is leaving her because o guilt because he does not want to give her false hope again!!!

Oh i loved gyatri mom i hope she stays that way forever 🀣 meri angrez bahu 🀣🀣

Oh as for HC being HC and not prem when he was all smiles....thats because he was pretending....whenever Prem is pretending he is either GS or HC 🀣

Yesterday both HC and AG ha problem controlling their laughter, HC did a better job cause AG in one of the shots was literally laughing...i wonder why they did not edit that 🀣🀣

But they were both fabolous yesterday, direction was good too ⭐️

Oh i loved how heer broke Prem's fragile defense...i loved how Prem asked her if she will not remember him once he is gone? And how he felt irritated by her yes, i loved heer 🀣🀣🀣 I loved how he wanted to believe in heer's hope, how he wanted to clinge to her hope, how he wanted that her hope wins over his hopelessness, yet at the same time resisting to hope😍 Premeer are so one aren't they? 😍 And i do not believe heer loves prem more or prem loves heer more because when that happens Premmer are one would sieze to exist for me and i so don't want that πŸ˜†
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Posted: 16 years ago
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oh esteee....i loved it!!!...o just loved every bit of it......
it was a prem filled episode..and what a performance by hc....hats off tooo him!!!
every emotion was just perfect......i'm out of words now.....
will get back to you later
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Heya E! So like Prem, I stuck to my word...I didn't watch last night's episode. And I haven't watched the video update yet, but here I am replying to your bt, lt anyway! (Ooh the interview wasn't too bad, the Professor who interviewed me was nice enough...though I think I may have rambled on for the written test...Yikes.)
It seems like I missed quite a couple of very interesting scenes last night...One thing though: they keep dragging Prem's departure. But now that the tickets are there, does this mean they can't prolong it anymore? Noooo!!
The 'feeding Shrimp the mithaai' sounds hilarious, and I cannot believe I missed that!! But is it me, or do Maya's flashy saris just not...belong...in the Jzoo?
Okay yeah I shall comment more after I've watched the update...which could be many, many hours later...Yikes. Or maybe I'll be too lazy to comment...I dunno...
Anyways, yes I know your cookies ran out. I trusted you to finish them on day one itself. πŸ˜› Don't worry though, I'm in the midst of baking something else for you and your mum, and I'm only giving that to you on day four!
Love,
Bhav (:
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Some episode, wasn't it? It was almost perfect just like old times if one can ignore all the bloopers that the editors forgot to edit out.

Heer thing: It was heer's show all along. She blew me away completely in the last segment. You are right, in the last part she's in her own world. It's like she's fighting everything and everybody around her to keep him with her. I don't know if it is her defence mechanisim that is making her to be so defiant but i guess she has nothing more left to loose. because the one thing she ever wanted is all set to leave so why shouldn;t she fight for it? This is what I like about her even when Prem wasn't around she always believed in them but Prem was always ready to give them away for his family or death. I totally loved the last line she said about her madness being nothing but "dhai akshar ka shabd - Prem". It was a very poignant statement, wasn't it?
Prem thing: I can't believe this guy. What happened to that Prem who wouldn't give up Heer and even ended up leaving his family for her? He's now all set to leave her. Whatever the reasons. But I have always felt that except for that one time when he stood up against the world for her, Prem has always be ready to sacrifice their love for his family. You are right in thinking why does Heer love this guy so much, a guy who is ready to give them up the moment where he has to choose between his life and his family's happiness. But i totally loved the way he's trying very hard to absorb all the happy moments and memories. The way he hugged is mom and dad was very heart breaking. The way he sits meekly at his dad's foot and crying was heart wrenching. In the last segment I felt that even he wants to believe Heer. Somewhere he too wants what she does but he's being more rational about it. I guess may be because he hasn't gone over the edge in heer's love as she has in his.
HC thing: you are absolutely right, how can one look so good weeping? but he did the entire capturing memories of his family thing very nicely. Also his total look of disbelief in what Heer was saying.
AG thing: she was the star today. be it her silent tears, her instant change from all happy to sadness during the family cricket celebration thing, AG was bang on.
Let's wait and see where it all goes.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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thx dear
4 ur

big things, little things


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Posted: 16 years ago
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hi estee
wasnt it a lovely episode, loved the way prem wasnt sure what he wanted heer to do, not letting her talk initially then wanting answers, telling her not to cry not to remember him and when she said she would he wanted to know if she could stop loving him as well, that was so perfectly written, i loved those dialogues
but i read through the end part specifically looking for mention of this



at first when i saw the pics i thought maybe she was having some fun with him but watching the show it was clearly a blooper, and the cap looks great, prem all in pain in the back and AG cant stop smiling,
i also loved how they used a song to cover up all prems good bye moments, and apparently he will have another reasonto stay back today,
w & w
faima
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anhdara13

You know the bit where Prem turns Heer around, and pulls her to him? I was so hoping they'd fade out there.. It would have been perfect no? Gayatri-Mom's wish to be a dadi would be fulfilled too.


πŸ˜† no questions asked! i totally agree with you -- it would have been perfect. but then, there'd have been many places, where i'd have a done a ... fade-out πŸ˜† and i'd have thought that was perfect too!

But my favourite part of all, Gayatri and Kul Di feeding Maya sweets, and she not being able to say no. The look on both her face and Veera's were hilarious!

y'know? more than anywhere else, in this show, there's a faint hope that sometimes good does triumph over evil, no? i like that... 😍
My replies to your bt,lts just keep getting shorter no? *sigh* I stopped paying so much attention to the show. Too much Maya and Veera. (the Shrimp and the Vitch)
poor holiness... πŸ˜† personally, i think that my bt,lts are getting too long and too much out of hand. i keep telling myself i should stop ... hmm... spewing so much. but ('specially) these days, i'm doing it in a mad rush - with no self-editing to keep it sane. and i agree... the shrimp and the vitch πŸ˜† can be quite the turnoff too... see ya, radz. confession: it was startling find your post on top of the list today! πŸ˜†πŸ€—

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Soaps1

ephtee we were missing you in EDT last night look what we were thinking about πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†

πŸ˜†πŸ˜† soapsie!!!!
πŸ˜†




See how much we miss you? πŸ€—
awww, you guys!!!🀣 you crack me up!! man, i wish i could be at the edt more.... no fair! all fun-fun things happen when i'm can't join in... *totally bad sulk happening here right now...*

and by the way? for the record? from my memory of what happened in the show, this ... er ... wouldn't have been a poll question...
🀣

As for epi it was one of the best ever..... Its guilt............and i don't believe he is leaving heer because of his family's happiness thats crap for me he is leaving her because o guilt because he does not want to give her false hope again!!!

false hopes? didn't understand, soaps. he has already told her he is dying, no? so .. um... what d'you mean by false hopes? πŸ˜•

Oh i loved gyatri mom i hope she stays that way forever 🀣 meri angrez bahu 🀣🀣

πŸ˜† yaa!!! in the battle of good vs. evil,

good: 1 evil: 0

go gayatri-mom!

Oh as for HC being HC and not prem when he was all smiles....thats because he was pretending....whenever Prem is pretending he is either GS or HC 🀣
🀣'kay! i'm laughing out loudly here. i sooo didn't understand what you said. but it sounds good.

Yesterday both HC and AG ha problem controlling their laughter, HC did a better job cause AG in one of the shots was literally laughing...i wonder why they did not edit that 🀣🀣

fatima pointed out a shot of ag yesterday from khushi's caps -- would you believe, i didn't get that when i saw the show?!?!?!! it must've been very short in the show? or was prem talking there? 'cause the camera focus was on hc then?

*shaking my head thinking i'm growing old faster than i thought... *

And i do not believe heer loves prem more or prem loves heer more because when that happens Premmer are one would sieze to exist for me and i so don't want that πŸ˜†
*thinking 'bout what soaps wrote* y'know? i don't know whether i believe that heer loves prem more or not. i think they're one -- and nothing they have done, either together or by themselves -- has ever made me think otherwise 'bout themselves.

but ya, i do think they started the ultimate chess game of love when they started this show. πŸ˜† and what we are seeing is like a chess game between prem and heer. there's their love for each other. and then there's the definition of it - just how they gets to define what that love means.

so far? i'm not sure which of them have had a stronger influence on that definition.

everything i remember prem as doing to show prem-heer-are-one has been.... the way that i hoped love will ultimately be, y'know? standing up through fire (lj and dirtchachi) and storm (the ajmer one - literally! πŸ˜†) to make prem-heer-are-one. everything i remember heer as doing to show prem-heer-are-one, on the other hand? that has been something totally unexpected! i never imagined that love can be manifested and defined in the way that heer has been doing. her standing up to take prem's troubles and going to jail was more of the sort that prem has done in the past -- very strong and wonderful, but not out of my imagination. but what she has done after prem's ... uh... disappearance πŸ˜† has kinda changed the way that i think 'bout love. at least, i'd never thought of ultimate love as being one where even after death, one of the two will suffer the loneliness and the heartache just to make the other's dreams come true. for me? that was heartbreakingly wonderful and new...

dunno if any of this makes sense... but hey! i got to write a long post trying to explain s'thing that you said. so this time you can't even blame me... 🀣


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