Tables are turned for WWW? - Page 2

So Rima, where you looking for this thread? thought I will bring it up for you. I am sure you are dying to refute my points!

No Opti...I'm not...they're very well thought out...and I did reply before but It didn't get posted...I remember most of it so I shall try again... 😭 ...but I didn't want you to think I had forgotten... 😆 I just got alittle distracted...

Rima, the fact of the matter is she had put her revenge plan ahead of her love for Milind which does'nt speak very highly of her love. As to her need for an identity what identity did she want, that of Mrs. Neev Shergill? I can understand all her other acts but her marriage to Neev to remove him from Prachi's life I really cannot. She could have married him off to someone else like how she got Alaap to marry Suyesha. Afterall he married her for his mother's sake after he thought Prachi has ditched him. His mother by the way was after money. She could have got someone to act like a millionaire and ask to marry Neev. Why should she herself marry him? How was she planning to get rid of him and marry Milsi? She seems to have cut her nose to spite her face. Okay Opti...here goes nothing...😆...I have neither the eloquence of your words nor the proper way in which to express myself so please bear with me...btw, Love the last line. This is my second attempt!!😡 To me, Ayesha was a real character and I felt like her need for revenge as you put it was somewhat understandable because of her experiences before hand. Her childhood, the love she had been deprived of from Inder, the life she should have had with the Shah children and the trouble of having to look after her incapable mother at such a young age. It was on ly natural that she felt the injustice of it. Taking Neev from Prachi herself was important because Neev was the only thing that Prachi would have cared for, as we know that material goods are of no matter. Personally I felt as though, by taking Neev's love away from Prachi she was getting back at her for having Inder's love all to herself all those years. When you feel personally wronged, there will be little that can stand in your way of getting what you want, in those moments she had forgotten that she already had what she wanted and that was Milind.

It was not only during the riots Rima, there have been umpteen instances when her lack of concern for him and his family came through. Knowing how much he loved his sister and also the state of his father's health she encouraged Suki to elope. If she had trully loved him would she have done that? What would have happened if Baba had died? She even staged a kidnapping to let Baba know the 'truth' caring little for his health. Opti, I agree 100% that is was unjustifiable to put soemone@s life in danger

She very well knew how much Milsi loved Prachi and yet staged that dirty trick of Milsi catching Prachi in Neev's arms. When Neev questioned her about it what did she say? She does not mind giving up her love for fulfilling her other motives but she will not tolerate it if he becomes someone else's for it is her happiness that she cares about and no one else's. This shows the extent of her selfishness. I dont think it can be called love when you can take pleasure in the pain of your loved one.

For a person who is supposed to be blindly in love with her lover, she is very alert to save her own skin. When she went in search of Milsi after he fell off the cliff, she hurriedly retreated after the police came on site. Even then her first instinct was to save herself. She did not go back even later and instead assumed the worst. She was even willing to bury her dreams as was seen her symbolically burning that saree.

Her attitude towards Milsi shows that she is least concerned about his thoughts or feelings and more into her own. The guy wakes up from a dream and was about to tell her something. She shuts him up saying she knows he would have dreamt of her. He says he has a headache when asked why he did not have his breakfast and the girl is least bothered about it. Instead she is planning how to go about trying to get NP together. Her scant regard for him or his feelings makes it difficult to accept that she loves him.

Originally posted by: zcbcc34

No Opti...I'm not...they're very well thought out...and I did reply before but It didn't get posted...I remember most of it so I shall try again... 😭 ...but I didn't want you to think I had forgotten... 😆 I just got alittle distracted...

Opti....do you really believe her😊..."little distracted" ki bachi!!😆

Opti..i whole heartedly agree with your points......😳

Wait. I@ve not yet finished>>>just had to post it before it got deleteed again>>>

Opti>>>forgive me< i@VE PRESSED something and it wont let me edit properly>>>just keep highlighting the whole quote>>>I@ll try again later>>

SANGS!! NO NAUTANKI>>>honest to god>>>I would have never said I@d come back if I didn@t intend too>>>

Originally posted by: zcbcc34

To me, Ayesha was a real character and I felt like her need for revenge as you put it was somewhat understandable because of her experiences before hand. Her childhood, the love she had been deprived of from Inder, the life she should have had with the Shah children and the trouble of having to look after her incapable mother at such a young age. It was on ly natural that she felt the injustice of it. Taking Neev from Prachi herself was important because Neev was the only thing that Prachi would have cared for, as we know that material goods are of no matter. Personally I felt as though, by taking Neev's love away from Prachi she was getting back at her for having Inder's love all to herself all those years. When you feel personally wronged, there will be little that can stand in your way of getting what you want, in those moments she had forgotten that she already had what she wanted and that was Milind.

I understand that she took Neev from Prachi to deprive her of the one person she held on to dearly, Rima. But she could have done so with equal effectiveness by getting him married to another girl (maybe even Suyesha since she was not married to Alaap at the time if I remember right). I can understand if she managed to gain Neev's love and got him to marry her thereby depriving Prachi of the man she loved just as she was deprived of Inder's love. But she literally forced him to marry her and she knew Prachi was well aware of it. Oh yes, she staged a honeymoon in Turkey and pretended to be lovey-dovey over Neev but if she really thought that would fool Prachi she really is stupid. For even she did not believe the play acting that Milsi did with Prachi for her benefit. Her insecurities about Prachi only surfaced at the time when Milsi actually fell for Prachi which she sensed on the I-day party.

As you pointed out she already had what she wanted but still went for something else. That would not be possible unless you valued what you had less which is what she ended up doing. She got everything she thought she wanted and really got nothing. I am reminded of what Milsi told Prachi during the floods, " I have won everything but have lost. You have lost everything but have still won." This is very true for Ayesha too.

By the way I believe you wanted to get back to this one. I could almost see your fingers itching to type out a response! In fact I had forgotten about it and was reminded only after I saw your post enquiring about this thread. As to losing your response I can well undertstand it since I very often face the same problem. Once I had made a post full of emoticons to express my anguish over the show (those take quite a long time to post) and lost it and what was worse is it happened twice and then I finally gave up.

I think that Ayesha deserves every bit of injustice that happens to her because ok she has not had the best of the childhood like Prachi but to put people's lives at risk to have your own happiness is beyond selfish. She does not love Milind, for her he is a belonging to her, a belonging she is obsessed with and afraid to lose. It makes it worse for her that Milind loves the one she hates so much: Prachi. All because she never cared for Milind or Neev (when she was his wife). Even after she married Neev, if she was not looking to destroy prachi but just to get revenge then she would have atleast fulfilled her responsibilites as a wife but no she does not understand relationships because she has never had any and does not intend to have any. If she did, it would teach her to care about others. To me she has just lost it. She is too selfish to love somebody. This is why neither Neev or Milind love her. That is jsu what i think.

okay opti>>>i have well and truly messed up my laptop>>>so will use the computer when I go to my folks tonight to edit and quote your replies>>>Uff this process @ve longed out>>> but the whole quote just keeps getting highlighted and deleted< but i@m going to quickly bullet point what I wanted to say< I think you must have read Sonia@s post in other thread and to some extent that was the point I was trying to make initially>>>though she has put it in better terms than I ever could> coming back to Ayesha@s love love for Milind< I still do think that somewhere she does love him< as I had said earlier that yes we some have some sort of notion of how a lover should be and should behave> though I do believe that the creative have had a big hand in destroying the portrayal of her love for Milind but if you look back to the initial days of MP marriage< her evident distress< her her total loss of reality when she found MP had fallen in love showed that she did love him> such a reaction cannot be procured from indifference> I believe that to some degree< Ayesha@s love can be liken to that of her mother who had loved and lost and had then lost her semblance on reality> Ayesha is in a similar predicament< she does love Milind and she is fully aware that he is what will make her happy though her judgement was earlier clouded by her desire to avenge> we all applaud Neev for realising that Prachi@s happiness is with Milind but we cannot expect the same from Ayesha because she believes that she is what will make Milind happy and that is where she is mistaken but she has convinced herself of the fact> It is in fact her own hapiness that she is sure of now and that could only be if she loved him> it is only natural to believe that being with the one you love will make you happy> I am in agreement with you that the means she has employed are unjustified and totally wrong and Prachi@s and Ayesh@s situations cannot be likened but just as Prachi is willing to do anything for Milind< so is Ayesha>

Well thank you opti for replying>>>these were just my views on Ayesha>>>>alot of people disagree and I understand that view as well> I just like to believe that there has to be a reason behind the way she acts and not just out of spite.