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Originally posted by: vidyac2003
@ harshil. Love is for a lifetime only if you end up with him for the rest of your life. Not all people get married to someone whom they love and when you end up with someone else he might be your second love but he becomes your love for life and your past lover becomes a sweet memory. That is how we have to look at it. It is not stupid but it is the fact of life. We all don't end up with people whom we love. Circumstances changes and things force us to leave them. Now you might tell it is not true love. What about many one-sided love stories. you cannot be obssesive about him and act like Ayesha. If we love someone we should love their happiness as well and in order to keep them happy must get them united to their love. This can be done only when you sacrifice your beloved.
well said vidyac2003π
Originally posted by: optimist
Dont worry, once the raaz breaks out, Neev will be out to take revenge on Michi and Milsi will willingly let him win. Michi may end up losing the house too thanks to Niharika and Alaap and may end up in the chawl. So Neev's track is bound to be strengthened in the months to come. Would be a blessing if they also develop a parallel Neesha track to compliment it.
totally agree optimist...its about time the creatives show us a Neesha track
Originally posted by: candyfloss
KAA was also supposed 2 be copy of movie Silsila n life of amitabh,jaya n rekhaπdid ekta followed that route.u don't seem 2 get her strategy at all. did ever it clicked 2 U shiv will die when his ttwin was introduced?well i did!N i got the hint what will happen btwn gauri n samar.ekta planned her story frm b4 n know yash is very popular n public wont accept his exit so not 2 offend audience n 2 keep viewers she gv yash double role.atleast we can see same couple onscreen. Dude she only introduced Samar because of Yash tonk as he's funny in double-role. I'm talking about IQBAL-shiv and Gauri. Did you predict he was gonna leave? I'm not talking about the current track. With the current track obviously I agree with you. π Anyways this argument is immaterial.
yes i get it but NP n jay also have limited number of fans so ekta risked it wisely with michi.as 4 trp at that time..all new serials have positive trp in the beginning than it slows down......no big deal.with shabz ekta doesnt need 2 worry abt trp or storyline.
Again you're assuming. Please tell me how you know all new serials have positive TRP's, do you just make up half your arguments or what to suit youre main argument? I don't see Kuch is Tarahh getting positive trp's or Dill Mill Gaye or CHA. Maybe its cause they aren't on Star Plus. Even so Ekta's not smart all the time, she bought Yash as a replacement for IQ as Shiv, and look at KAA's trps. Proof of her smartness is right there.characters dont hv 2b popular to show track. As if I didn't know that π I'm just saying that it would be better to show tracks for popular characters then or show intelligent tracks which aren't mind-numbingly boring for the unpopular characters. More people are happier that way it might be boring for forum ppl...ofcourse we're die-hard fans of kym but wht abt outside forum ppl. Ok another assumption! Do you know any of the outside forum people personally? How do you know if they find it boring or not? Well I'll tell you how I know, cause the day after the Michi re-union, Kayamath slipped down from 5 to 8. Isn't that "Affecting" trps! π sukriti track is important for the future.it's a daily soap n it takes a hell lot of brainstorm to write one line.its very easy 2 criticise rather than appreciate. Why don't you tell this to all those who criticize Anil Nagpai, or who sent hate mails to the BT creatives to convince them to have Michi back? If everyone worked like you, we would've not taken any actions because what did you say, "its very easy 2 criticize" and dude I'm WATCHING the show I've full right to criticize. Thats my prerogative, who are you to make judgements on who I like or dislike? You criticize Neev, do I ever tell you its easy to criticize characters and hard to appreciate them. i'm glad michi romance is reduced ootherwise they wud hv lost the magic.i'm sick of this trp argument.ur talking like one of np fansπ Well you're sick of it, good you started it in the first place! π Oh and the only reason I'm making this trp argument is because you're not quite understanding my point. Anyways you said Ekta cares about trp's, I say if she did Kayamath's trps would have remained in the top 5 and not been reducing to like position 7 or position 8 which is good, but clearly reduced. And wouldn't she want higher trps which Kymth has the potential to get, or is she the type to just be satisfied with whatever she gets? Now I would assume, from your assumptions, that if she wanted the trps to increase, she would ban Sukriti from the show. Or show her very little. Not dedicate the full epi to her!π ...kym trp is very stable with no.6-no.8 So? How does that discredit my argument about how the trps reduce because of her stupid tracks?
it's part of the show...this is necessary.....those days trp was gr8.ppl like 2 watch those scenes n always create tension among viewers.pia-jai affair in KS forum i was the 1st one 2 predict their affair n having a baby.i know ekta perfectly well.all my assumption abt her serials r correct.When JB get separated they also have a leap....in a way ekta never separate them.so i don't thinkk JB r separated. Oh really, you're so sure of yourself in assuming everything about her serious, ok fine please let me know whats happening in all her future shows, like KAA, Kahanni, Kasautii, Kayamath, KIT etc. Thank you! As you said, your assumptions are never wrong, I'm sure you wont mind this little request, you already know everything, don't you? π. And I don't know about you. But many people from the KS forum hated the track. They didn't want it. See Ekta cares about trps, the trps depends on whom? The audience! If the audience don't like the track then how will she maintain the trps? πshe's a typical business wooman n not dumbπplz!she informed viewers b4hand mukti will die though PM is popular n she didnt want that cz the main story track will be lost.anu-prerna-bajaj.True PM still has fans but it didnt affect trp nor it cost her money. Oh haha, I've been a regular follower of KZK. The trps went down from the top spot to like 3rd or 4th position, wont you call that "affecting" trps! π Even when they are showing the Devki-Vikas Prem track, the trps are like at no. 6. π Ok you're completely contradicting yourself. You say Ekta cares about trp's and money, not about the storyline. Well so if she cared about trp's, she certainly wouldn't have killed Mukti!, would she? And now you turn around and say she cares about the story and not the trp's, Please figure it out, Trp's or story? it went smoothly.if its boring why r u still watching How do you know I'm watching? I could perhaps just be reading the updates. Has that ever occured to you? π n why still kzk forum is so active n why still there's a petition not to end the serial??? You're completely misunderstanding me. That was not even my argument. My argument was that if Ekta really cared about trps, she wouldn't kill the one couple that gave her favorite serial Kasautii, the No. 1 serial on the trp chart. Now look at KZK's trps, a pitiful 6. Its not bad, but seems bad after KZK's stint as the No.1 show. Clearly its still popular, but its popularity has reduced due to her stupid decisions, a mixture of killing Mukti, killing Saksham, yada yada, dunno about that. So does this sound like a smart businesswoman to you? πask urself these questions.i said previously it's very easiy 2 criticise n bash.most ppl bash ekta n give rude remarks n still tey watch her show??? Now you're making it personal. Please attack what I'm saying, defend yourself. But Why do you have to bring in another people? Well again I'll bring up my previous points. Why don't you tell that to those who call Anil Nagpai, Ekta's employee, Nagin Nagpai. Or those who sent hate mails to the Kayamath team to get Michi back. Or those who insult BT all the time. Dude, at that time you weren't complaining. So why now? Why shouldn't I criticize her work? I'm a viewer, I'm paying for the channel, I've full right to. π there's something called selfrespect.u guys h8 ekta 4 her crappy storylines n still watch her show? Haha, I didn't watch Kayamath today. Normally I comment during the live update, but this I didn't, Commented way later, after watching only the Michi scene. And please don't espouse your morality over me. A person doesn't lose self-respect by watching something they don't like. I watch Kayamath these days only because of my mother, its her fav serial, and so she never lets me or my sis watch other serials. Plus there are a million of reasons a person may watch an Ekta show even if they don't like to. Who are you to pass judgements and say they don't have any self-respect? π i dont think none of the fans r loyal.when mikti died it didnt affect trp It totally did. Once people were completely sure Mukti died, the trps got decreased. It came to no. 4 from no. 1. Thats affecting trps, don't you think? π....even in kym forum all mp h8ers still watch the show n claim 2 stop watching if np doesnt get back but still waste time in the forum On the contrary, many NP fans have even left the forum. And as I said there might be many reasons to watch a show even if you dislike it. Mages and junooni watch it in hopes of seeing Neev and for the updates. I watch it for Michi and Neev. etc. You don't personally know why they're watching it. But yes the current track of the show does determine how many people will watch it ...now who's is dumb? ekta is taking advantage of the viewers. kavya-anjali was the lowest trp gainer with eijaz-anita n it has to be wrapped up.everyone blamed new sujal n so much obscene words were used against gurpreet still it didnt affect the trp....n all new sujal h8eers n gurpreet h8ers watched the show n kept their loyalty.so why shud ekta bother abt these petty emotion? For the TRP'S my dear, the audience matter. If the audience hate the actors, Ekta isn't really gonna help maintain the trps. Well lemme give another example, Look at KAA. A top 4 trp, IQ leaves, and its on No. 16. Doesn't this tell you anything about the intelligent audience, simply put they stopped watching the show once IQ left. The show has gone downhill since then, its gotten unpopular that it had to be shifted to the 6:30 pm slot, and then afternoon slot. π
ekta doesn't decide her story by coming to this forum???plz be wise.π³ Haha, I'm just showing the forum as an example of people who don't like the Sukriti track. You're putting words into my mouth because I never said Ekta decides her story by coming to the forum. Wrong argument, pal. we're used to watch michi scenes n want 2 see whole 30 mins abt them...it's not possible.whether u like it or not its not ekta's headache...her track is very imp 4 the upcoming event.sukriti is important cz she's linked with prachs.shah n mishra now the most important n shergills will be l8r 4 the downfall of their fortunes. Oh about this I agree, Now I agree with you. Yes sukriti is quite important in determining future tracks. Why didn't you say this earlier? Then there would have been no argument in the first place. π But I maintain my earlier stand, she IS important, no doubt about it, but do they really have to focus so much on her storyline for like I dunno, the PAST 3 MONTHS.again trp??trp have always been the same.u must balance ur expectation. Ok my bad, I thought being no. 5 and being at no. 8 are different and not the same. Perhaps my maths is really horrible.
come on if ur so smart than why don't u write a track and send it to ekta.4get abt the track why don't write a normal FF abt neesha???u think it's easy like an aladin's lamp.even if neev is shown trp still will remain the same.kym is not that extraordinary or the most amazing serial that ekta will think abt it 24/7. it's not that much important..all she cares abt occupying viewers at 11:00 pm slot. Arre yaar, first decide if Ekta cares about trps or storyline. Cause you seem to change your stance one time or the other to suit your argument. Also I don't get your
argument, so are you saying that if I don't like a doctors treatment, I shouldn't complain, because its not easy like an aladin lamp, and I should "go easy on them". I just gave the doctor argument as an analogy for what you're saying, so don't start arguments that I'm making up stuff. Well the creatives job is to provide an interesting storyline, granted its not easy for the general public. But its not easy for the creatives, then why on earth are they employed? Its their JOB to provide interesting tracks. πuncreatives???why don't u hand ur resume??? Omg, so I can't give suggestions now π Lol whats this world gone to? A suggestion is taken as an offer to join the place. Sorry man, I'm 17, way too young to join the creativces. ur repeating whole time u want neev track but can u give detaail what exactly you want??π Thats exactly it I want a Neev track, now the creatives should decide how to bring him in the show. Its their job, not mine. Why should I go easy on them? They're getting paid to write all these tracks. You make them sound like pitiful lambs, who are striving diligently to write an interesting story, and those who should be earning only "our" sympathy. its only the forum ppl find it boring cz we're here 4 our desired jodi.but ekta doesnt think in that line. LOL. Do you personally know Ekta? If you don't then please stop bringing this point in this argument. It doesn't hold any weightage for me. i dont find anything wrong abt sukriti cz i understand her importance in michi relationship.if u dont like her scenes thaan why not switch channels in between. Again, you're putting words into my mouth. When did I say I watch Kayamath continuously, there is something called updates you know! π i 'm sorry 2 say but i find few in this forum so childish n dunno what they want.feew np fans still dosnt believe michi luv n thinks prachs hold a torch 4 neev n think this will be like kzk,kth etc.but still they provide us with updates, write all good things abt michi just 2 show off yes we r mp fans... And you're telling me this, WHY? Its not even related to our actual argument. I'm not an NP fan, I've always and will always find them a big bore. π But I do love Neev. I wanna see more of him. Being a Neev fan, is different from being an NP fan. thats totally BS.if u dont like certain characters or scene why dont u guys swap programmes Arre why are you making this argument which isn't necessary? people might have different reasons to watch a serial. Who cares? Who are we to judge them and call them stupid. Do we really know why they continue to watch the serial?.....i hope ekta never listen 2 any forum ppl including meπ Oh, I'm sorry, I thought Ekta did listen to us, we were pivotal in avoiding the Michi divorce. In that time, I didn't hear you complaining and saying "I hope Ekta doesn't listen 2 any forum ppl" ...i hardly care abt kym all i care abt shabz. BINGO! Then ok taking your previous words, what you said, why do you still continue to watch the show? If you don't care or like certain characters or certain scenes ,why don't you switch channels? π I don't think your dumb for watching Kayamath, just repeating what you said earlier. Well, see maybe have you ever stopped to consider that those other "Np fans" might watch Kayamath, even if they don't care about Kayamath, exactly for a similar reason like yours, perhaps because they want to see more of NEEV? πonce his character is butchered i quit the show so that's a prove i'm 100% loyal fan of michi n milind.i'm also more than sure half of the forum who claim to luv michi will still watch this dumb show n switch to npπ..so why da hell shud ekta care abt viewers?? Duh Because it is the VIEWERS, who determine the success and trps of the show. TV isn't made for the actors, its made for the viewers because they decide if the show is successful or not. Just like a film, and you're again basing your argument on another assumption, half of the people will continue to watch the show without Milind or Michi. Again you've no facts to prove that, its just your assumption and opinion. So I'm not gonna argue against that. u guys shud know how to appreciate real ppl 4 their work.its only 4 ekta we see michi. Read above to my replies to the same argument, you made the last two times. π
if you think ur smarter than BT than send ur story to them. You're again putting words into my mouth. When did I say I'm smarter than BT? And why can't I offer suggestions? Suggestions is NOT equal to wanting a job in BT, I'm afraid.so you want ekta 2 show michi romance 4 the whole year w/o any problem...i was wrong pls don't join BT team.π Again you're putting words into my mouth. Really michi scenes does not equal to Michi romance forever, without any problems. I never said that! π
ekta knows better so i'll leave it to her.if u wanna show concern for dumb neev character than do so. but i want him 2b sidelined..its my opinion only cz i h8 the character.though i know he'll be back but i hope he doesnt get more importance than mills...or share same limelight...no i wont like that.so i've no problem with sukriti fiasco.anyone but neev shud keep his foot out of michi business..though i know he'll be back but i hope he harms mills this way he wont be much preferred than mills. I respect your opinion of not wanting to see Neev. π . But there are 12 people in this forum who would rather see Neev over Sukriti, and 3 people who'd rather see Sukriti. Now I know, the forum is hardly a place to give comparisons for the real world. But this just proves to me that Neev has more fans than Sukriti π
My arguments pretty long, so I don't blame you if you don't wanna reply to my arguments. You surely do have better things to do with your time. me? my exams are over, so I do have loads of time to waste. So instead of replying, we can just agree to disagree if you want to do that! π
i'm busy true but i dont agree with u with trp stuff n neev stuff.....no prob i can argue with u.
Getting personal, huh? π Well candyfloss I don't mind arguing more, but I cannot argue with someone who criticizes me personally for the opinions I hold. Thats something I cannot and will not tolerate. Plus I do not want to irritate or annoy you. So lets agree to disagree.
I don't wanna create any enemies. Nobody. Not even you.