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Posted: 9 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: diva82


I feel this is in reference for me, so I will explain it here. Lots and lots of fans were upset and hurt, they hadn't moved on yet. So for that very reason I wanted to help them because you cannot build a new show when the very foundation is of heartbreaks and tears coming out from the very depths of their soul. Therefore, quite a lot of people had not received their closure. Many of casts were mentioning on Social media that how it's the same cast etc and how they were graduate in Season 2 ( will not mention any names here because that will lead to a different tangent). On top of that, we were misguided last month with the hashtag #PaNiFAB5S2, which was another insult to injury and yes that has been cleared up recently with the known person. All this was a cumulative effect and with this huge fandom, the dams were going to burst and spread like a wildfire on the social media. This was going to happen.

I hope this explanation helps and I shall look forward to your response in a professional manner. Please do bear with me if I do not get the chance to respond quickly. Thank you.


First of all, I don't know what is the meaning of professional response.. But I will write a response in a way I always do😃

@Bold I do agree with that! And believe it or not I'm one of them even though I have been tagged as a "disloyal manan fan". But m not sure even the HEA will help me get over them.

@Red Agree with u again!! But aren't the ppl who are bashing innocent ppl in the name of trending doing the same??? How can ppl cherish MaNan HEA after talking so much shit about "Nan" of MaNan?? after hurting, disrespecting the girl who played "Nan" in every possible way??
How far actions like manipulating ppl, not watch S2 just so the show shuts down can be justified?? If ppl dislike S2 that's perfectly fine. But atleast they should refrain from spreading negativity when they are totally aware that they are biased towards S1. Ppl can Just stop watching the show and fight for what they want!! Demotivating others repeatedly does not make sense.

@Blue I don't know whom u r talking about.. But m quite sure it's not the person m interested in!

@Pink I do not believe in any sources, so can't really comment on that!! Still I would like to say fighting for what u want should not mean smashing and walking over what u have. Especially when pieces are spread apart and each piece is important to make the beautiful portrait.

I do get the pain and agony of MaNan fans. But I do not understand the policy of hurting others just because u r hurt.. Especially those who are not responsible for ur agony!

And I have loads to say about the ppl who r using the trend for some other motive and have no interest in MaNan!!

Thank u for caring to explain😃



Edited by LovesToBeLoved - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#72
See the thing is in this industry people are always like first thinking about themselves then the rest ...nobody here is white or black it is just grey ...the only point is you are grey till what extend ???
The thing is nobody knows the inside story in detail ..we are just getting a rough idea from what we are shown ...firstly when parth quit he clearly stated that he is happy that he is leaving on a high ...he clearly mentioned many times his disinterest in Manan and need to move to bigger things ...his quote leaving on a high justifies that he was bored with the story getting nowhere and becoming stagnant ...so felt to leave it ...surely I agree to his reasoning ...but is it right to be assosiated to something only till you feel it is advantageous for you ??i agree that kyys1 has nothing more for Manan and only hea was left but who knows few months or weeks down the line they would have introduced some good track for Manan like the bof track or soha alive track ..they could have shown how Manan fight it together ...see its a show it will definately have its up and downs ...you have to have keep trying for what would work...ya I do agree that ry was the creator of Manan nobody can create the same magic but I'm also sure that if Manan would still would have been there in s2 as pani the cvs would have had less difficulty as I'm sure still the viewers would have seen s2 even for pani as Manan sake ...and cvs would have tested tracks for manan to finally get to viewers expectations...but here the new cvs are just starting from a mess that parth as manrk is not there ..it's a challenge for them to keep the story still interesting ...I'm not saying that parth is completely wrong in leaving n moving to better opportunities but imagine if you are a part of something which gave you a platform to show your acting capabilities..to play a wonderful character...it gave u recognition...huge fan following so much love ...n even a wonderful working team say it co stars or ph or cvs...and suddenly you leave the show n that show goes for a toss!!how will u feel??no matter how justifiable your reasons were to leave the show but somewhere down the line there would be a guilt that I left the show and the show is going down the line with so much of controversies and blame games happening on each n every person whether ph cvs or actors..I'm sure atleast on some moral grounds there will definately be a feeling in parth that he left the show and now it is nothing but a mess..I think that is why he says I pray and wish that s2 works and it does more better than s1
Niti was the only one who shipped Manan till the end and ya she has promoted s2 in the ways she can but tell me why you won't promote the show you are a part of and when you know you are trying that the show tries to find a place in viewers heart...she is trying her best to retain nandini and also trying that s2 works ..she is not wrong from her view
As far as mtv is concerned why will they clear things when that is helping to keep a buzz around s2 ...they are also here for business...ya I agree the offscreen tifs between ph channel writers cvs was also a reason for many disappointments in kyy and its viewers...the fact it everybody here has contributed in their way in less or more amount for all the ruining and for viewers disappointed...some have very less negligible no like contribution while some have a large contribution ..for me niti was no where to blame for all the s1 glitches and also for s2 chaos ...
As far as cvs and writers are concerned why would cvs do something which will not go well with audience??afterall a show is made for viewers n not viewers according to show...but my point is I do agree that after ry the story lost its essence but the new cvs didn't have any idea if the viewers they are just trying and testing things to finally figure out what can work...it might be challenging for them also to work out a show when the show is without its most main character which was the essence of show...and given the fact that the cvs themselves are new to all the facts of show onscreen or offscreen...yes the last month of s1 was rushed and Manan was not given justice ...who will forget that Manan make out which turned out to be a joke with pathetic editing and even the storyline was nothing but of no meaning...but will we ever know why this happened ..it may be coz of lot of factors some coz of cvs and editors mistakes n some coz of other situation...just think if in case it would have happened that the cvs who just came in are said this is the show n the main lead is only for a month or maybe he will be in s2 or maybe not ..what will you do??try to end all tracks keep the story open ended so that they can work out according to the situation or to give it hea ..everything would be so messed up ..coz if we all see vishal said that parth was a part if show at that time..plus the way s1 last 3 weeks were it was as if they are keeping manek character open ended in such way that they could do anything with his character ...plus there were confirmation by many sources like sbs sauris and many others that parth is in s2 ..there was even news that s1 will end with Manan having hea...it was on Twitter ...now why the tables turned as parth not in s2 we will never know ...who knows vishal tweet was right or wrong who knows what actually was in channels mind for parth's exit n s2 ..who knows maybe parth would have asked for time to think for s2 or might be in talks but after much thinking he would have said no ...or maybe the channel would have failed to convince him ..or who knows parth would have made it firmly clear that he won't continue whatsoever...my point is if parth would have made it crystals clear that he will not continue ...then the cvs would have in advance moved with the track to give it a proper closure ..then why mess up last month of s1 and Manan and keep Manan hanging till end...or maybe initially it was that kyy was supposed to end in s1 itself and maybe parth was shooting considering he is shooting for the end of kyy ...but the channel wanted s2 to happen ...coz the actors were putting bye and final moment pics on ig...but on other side parth was also giving updates like pics saying its not the end it's just a point in the story where we turn the page to other chapter...this means it s2 was considered n parth knew it...do the thing is that what the possibilities and what the situation might have been for the actors and the team and the writers or any other people we don't know...so we can never judge..see nobody can come out in open saying who exactly is wrong or right ...can the channel or the writer or the actors or the ph directly say that parth left the show hanging ...till last moment we were convincing him to stay back so we messed s1...can anyone blame anyone directly ???can parth directly say that show was going stagnant and the channels were too keen for s2 for their gain...so it's better we don't expect anyone to give a clear explanation on what happened behind the camera...coz I know once the whole truth will come out crystal clear ..I'm sure a lot illusions would be broken and it would have resulted it lot of controversies and tiffs between the whole kyy team including actors channel ph cvs and writers ...everybody would have blamed each other with their point of facts n their view ...writers would have given their story to clear their side parth would have given his side of reasons and channel would have cleared Their deeds with their side of explanation ...so I guess the real story will never get cleared
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Posted: 9 years ago
#73
@LTBL, I won't quote the whole of your message because I have already explained it as far as I could, I hope you can appreciate that.
I mentioned professional, because unfortunately, I have been mocked and taunted far too much these last three weeks for supporting a cause. Yes I understand there will be people who don't agree with the sources etc but why mock us? Why call us names and call us delusional fools? That is what hurt me the most in fighting for what I believed is the truth. Some people who were angry at that cast getting bashed, were bashing us ruthlessly on the social media. And yes, that personally gave a bitter blow to me, because I didn't mock them.

Yes, there have been hurtful words and mud slinging going on, I will not deny that but having said that, lots of us have made the effort to keep the trend clean as possible. And it's not just from fans to be honest. Having said that, like Shibz mentioned, maybe it's certain ppl's ways of moving on and eventually a solution will come out of it.

In summary, I would like to say that this trend really opened my eyes, and yes perhaps left scars. I will definitely say things will not be the same, at least for me.

Have a great evening.
Edited by diva82 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@shibz No 1 will stop until n unless they get a confirmation tht will he be back or not...
U must be well aware that some of them are genuinely trending for MaNan HEA wth Parth as Manik and some of them are trending just to watch Parth as Manik...Fact !!!

If HE doesn't come back even after such humongous efforts then ultimately fans will move on...some will go on with his new project if it intrigues them..n some wl watch just to drool over him...but if HE comes back it wud b JUST for d fans (I guess)

From all his recent interviews u must b well aware that he left to try out something new and different and he thinks tht thr is nothing left to explore in d character named Manik...just for a HAPPY ENDING bringing him back every time he decides to leave or gets bored doesn't mk ne sense..n moreover shudnt be encouraged even a bit..but alas

Here ppl not trending r NOT mkin an issue..d issue arises wen ppl trending (barring few) drag d cast and bash them unnecessarily linking their each n every action wth their TREND and tkin it personally...undermining their efforts all along without knowing d actual truth...


As for Niti thanking karishma I never saw so much bashing wen parth gv credit to vikas for kyy without mentioning Richa...
Edited by jyotib24 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#75
Such a brilliant post
Happy that some sane viewers are still there

Bashing actors who are working hard is not correct


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: diva82

@LTBL, I won't quote the whole of your message because I have already explained it as far as I could, I hope you can appreciate that.

I mentioned professional, because unfortunately, I have been mocked and taunted far too much these last three weeks for supporting a cause. Yes I understand there will be people who don't agree with the sources etc but why mock us? Why call us names and call us delusional fools? That is what hurt me the most in fighting for what I believed is the truth. Some people who were angry at that cast getting bashed, were bashing us ruthlessly on the social media. And yes, that personally gave a bitter blow to me, because I didn't mock them.

Yes, there have been hurtful words and mud slinging going on, I will not deny that but having said that, lots of us have made the effort to keep the trend clean as possible. And it's not just from fans to be honest. Having said that, like Shibz mentioned, maybe it's certain ppl's ways of moving on and eventually a solution will come out of it.

In summary, I would like to say that this trend really opened my eyes, and yes perhaps left scars. I will definitely say things will not be the same, at least for me.

Have a great evening.


I'm one of those who mocked the SOURCES who said harsh things to Niti when she requested ppl to support S2. I personally did not have any problem with trending to start with.. But did not see the #Tag reflecting the cause... But I totally hate what it has become now. The real intention and essence is totally lost. As far as mocking and name calling whole fandom is doing the same. Few are suhagans, few are undercover suhagans, few are real manan fans, few are fake manan fans, few are niti's bodyguards, few are lesbians, few are delusional, few are useless haters 😆

@Bold I didn't get u😕

If trending helps ppl move on they can happily do that. But if bashing and hurting others is what helps ppl to move on then I just pray that ppl stay where they are and not try to move on

@Red I feel U!!! Nothing will be same after all that happened. Not even MaNan(If in case Parth returns).. And this goes with almost everyone including cast.

Good night/morning/noon/evening😃


Edited by LovesToBeLoved - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: jyotib24



Here ppl not trending r NOT mkin an issue..d issue arises wen ppl trending (barring few) drag d cast and bash them unnecessarily linking their each n every action wth their TREND and tkin it personally...undermining their efforts all along without knowing d actual truth...


WORD!!! 👏
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Posted: 9 years ago
#78
Shelly, @human psychology I get. But that still doesn't clear my confusion. Stupid me even expected Parth to acknowledge his costar and MaNan at least in his thank you speech. Fir Niti se toh I'm bound to feel disappointed if she behaves like she doesn't know the fans ever since s1 ended.

See just like you think that probably she was asked by the PH to thank Karishma publicly, some fans think she and the other cast are also asked by the PH n channel to give ivs n notes, and not out of their own freewill. She thanking Karishma is not a crime definitely but the timing she chose for it when a lot of us have issues with Karishma. I honestly couldn't make sense out of the tweet. When she apologised to HG she was kinda protective towards her own fans too. But this time she comes around as a totally different person.

Yeah heard that😆 I don't know what issues Karishma would have with Parth😆 I have till date not understood what kind of insult Swamy/MTV did to Parth. Probably by promoting his amateur singing.

But fans have also got news that she has written a love triangle for s2. Could be true too since the news related to Manik's death was also true.

I don't support bashing, but it would be too unrealistic to expect no reaction from the already worked up fandom. Like I already said, is bashing all that she gets?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@LovesToBeLoved, when a fandom is huge, customized hashtags cannot be made as per each person's wish and convenience. Ultimately it's the intention that matters. Conveying a message does not need a hash tag.

What is the value of this 'N' out of 100 or 200?

By taking it personally, I meant the comment was in general what I felt. I wasn't saying it as a fact. I'm giving her the benefit of doubt there.
It wasn't meant for another fan to agree or disagree to. It was my opinion as a fan. And there are no personal biases attached to it. But you took it upon yourself to justify her actions. Anyway that doesn't change what I said unless Niti herself gives me a reason to take back my words.

As far as I remember fans didn't utter a word against her till she posted that 'note'. May be one tweet telling fans that she knows how they feel but she is helpless would have calmed a lot of ppl, instead of behaving like she is clueless as to what the problem is n later playing a victim. And I'm not talking about me but the fans out there who're probably blaming her. I have nothing against Niti. I understand her actions as a person but from a fan perspective she has intentionally or unintentionally hurt/disrespected fans.

Charlie n Krissan are bashed too with all those words you mentioned, but has any of you spoken for them?

@Karishma - I already wrote about it in my previous post.


@Jyoti, Parth wasn't bashed for supporting VG is because he was ill then. But nobody simply accepted what he said.

P.S, my replies are only to the replies to my comments.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@ shibz parth ws excused coz he ws ILL n during his hospital stay decided to sit n write a one page long warning note for fans supporting HIS dear Friend who ws tht time not even part of kyy...n niti is being bashed coz she is fit n fine n decided to write a thank u note of 2 lines to her present creative whom she is working with...😕

I know that d new creative hasn't done gud story wise n fans hv full right to criticize her...but given that ppl r not aware of d inside story thy shudnt b jumping onto conclusions n strt reacting wthout THINKING once !
Edited by jyotib24 - 9 years ago

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