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Posted: 10 years ago
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I am at a loss to write about an episode that made not much sense to me.
I am NOT going to write about history or what happened at Chittor war - I should leave that to knowledgeable about the subject. I am only seeing JA Jodha Jalal.

I only saw Jodha - she who has decency and humanity - does no want innocent blood to be shed and who was so proud that her marriage to Jalal had brought Hindus and Muslims together. Jalal who had turned into compassionate Akbar treating his awam equally.

Jalal is going on a war to challenge the Almighty it seems. Cos when he set out he challenged God saying when his twins passed away HE must have laughed but now he is going to kill HIS innocent children and laugh at their death. It is Jalal who has achieved this power on his own not given by the Almighty and he is going to use it cos it is a jungle and only the strong rule lions rule.

I wonder why Jalal thinks HIS Almighty's innocent children are Rajvanshis?????????????? There is no logic

So HIS RELATIVE a Mughal killed his twins but Jalal is going to make Rajvanshis pay for it by shedding their blood. I don't understand what kind of logic CVs are trying to show to justify Akbar in this war. The Mughal most responsible for killing the twins (after Zeenat) - Ruk has got away scot free!

I just felt that after shedding so much blood if he repents and comes to his senses - again JA Jalal - it is no comfort to those who lost their lives or their loves ones.

THIS Jalal SHOULD NOT BE REWARDED for this by showing Jodha pregnant with Salim. It will be the biggest travesty CVs will show if after repenting and accepting the Almighty as most powerful he is rewarded with a waris. It feels repulsive logic.

Jodha told Bharmal even if Mughals win or Rajvanshis win in both ways it will be they who will be losers. Bharmal had no answer to this. Jodha asked him if he can shed Rajvanshi blood - he walked away without answering her. Jalal asked Bharmal to stay back to protect Agra in his absence.

Jodha saw Rajvanshi women do tilak to their husbands and give them their jewelry. I do not know this custom maybe cos if they don't return alive they won't need jewelry.

Jodha collects all her jewelry her money and tells Bharmal to take it with him to war and donate it to families of soldiers killed injured from both sides Mughals and Rajvanshis. He is not going to war so she can't send it and is sad.

HB and SB understand Jodha's pain.

Precap - Jodha is crying seeing red sky and telling Moti she feels it is the sanket of the blood Jalal has shed. Jalal is walking around with hatred on his face amongst enemy bodies.

I don't want to see Jodha pardon Jalal - not for dumping all blame on her like a coward. Will he be able to meet her eyes after shedding blood of Rajvanshis?

Like Jodha said it is she who will lose whoever wins or loses - Just like it is Jodha ONLY who lost when her twins lost their lives cos she is left with the blame - while Jalal the coward refused to accept his part of blame.

My heart only goes to Jodha - rest all I don't care.


A sincere request - please do not try to justify this Chittor war of Akbar's pov or why he fought it on this thread. I have no knowledge of history enough to reply and I know this subject is very sensitive one so better to stick to JA.


PS : I was completely busy today so did not get chance to reply to yesterday's thread posts. Read from mobile and thank you all for lovely thought and lot of venting and some positive voices

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Posted: 10 years ago
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The Rajvanshis gave shelter to his enemies...I don't remember whom..For Jalal, he is setting out to take revenge from enemies..

But I also don't understand the logic behind the war..So his kith and kin are not God's children??? I am confused with this Ekta's serial..
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Posted: 10 years ago
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i think now jodha stars hating jalal
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I also do not like linking chitter massacare as revenge for killing his twins
Akbar should know all his kids were killed by his own relatives not his enemies not rajvanshi's his own brother in laws, his own badi ammi maham and his cousins. So how come he wants revenge by killing rajvanshi's?
He must kill his own relatives like abul mali, sharifuddin and mah chu chuk not kill chitter people if he wants revenge
But why will he kill after all for him his sisters happiness comes first no matter their husbands their mothers try to kill him many times no matter they kill his babies or do bhagawattt
And he is total mama's boy blind faith in badi ammi maham ok if she killed his 2-3 babies she still remains badi ammi ok if badi ammi's beta adham kills atagah and tries to kill him still he will build them tombs and preserve her room and ruqaiah to be forgiven for hiring dai ma as she is cousin sister all sort of partiality to blood relatives
But remove all that anger on others be it Mughal soldiers during practice, jodha his wife, on innocent rajvanshi citizens
When shall jalal remove his anger on those who really caused him pain and murdered his kids? When will he grow up?
This reminds me of teachers who fight at home and come remove anger on pupils
Even when daniyal died he did the same waged a war. So CVs just following future history 35 years in advance
Actually Akbar had personal grudges to remove with chittor royals. Humayun was asked help by udai singh's mom karnavati when bahadur shah had attacked. So its not like they were enemies for ages. shah jahan and karan singh were friends too. so for Akbar this was personal thing not some revenge on GOd for killing his babies. So why CVs linking it wrongly?
Edited by myviewprem - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi Maddy,
Thanks for the post.i am also at a loss to write about today's episode .The only thing i saw was the jo who displayed enormous strength and courage even at this juncture and salima who stayed true to her character.But maddy if i'm right this is going by already the existing pattern.It wouldn't be salim but jo will get somehow hurt and that is when he would be shown coming to his sense and his faith in god restored.but yes the cvs may surpise and bring jo's pregnancy too.i don't have any hope at all now.I'm just watching ja now out of habit.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Maddy,

Ekta has gone mad and today was the limit. I won't go in details as you dont want Chittor discussion, but still i did not like what the HOLY CRAP was shown today.

Totally nonsense reasons were given by Jalal for attack.. The attack was more for personal reasons than anything, and not because of shelter to the enemy of Jalal. It was a frustration and was more about the EGO factor. I have given the REAL causes of this War in my LOOONG Blog post as per Akbar's Biography. You don't slaughter UNARMED civilians after eliminating the army just because the opposition was ur STRONG enemy..

But Ekta has changed all that in her NR.. Sorry, but today Jalal was shown OTT, as if he is some phycho. Don't know what Ekta wants to show...She should have skipped all this...
I won't add more. No more discussion on this topic here..

PS : I will edit my post incase u want..


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Posted: 10 years ago
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maddy Jallu called himself janwar... So that's how his brains r wrking right now... His mughal family members r responsible for watevr condition he is in now but he is taking revenge against rajvanshis just bcz he thinks jo n his love is responsible... He looked lik perfect psycho with that kajal all over face... I really Dnt know how this jallad turns to insaan agian... That ruk is one bekaar no one asked her support... She shud hv gone with him to support on war and hope she wil b killed by rajvanshi... Bas khatam agra wil b in peace... He shud Hv gone for war against mc or others y rajvanshis? It's revenge on jo... I want jo to b in ghrina fiery wala princess who gives back to him...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: chennaigirl

The Rajvanshis gave shelter to his enemies...I don't remember whom..For Jalal, he is setting out to take revenge from enemies..

But I also don't understand the logic behind the war..So his kith and kin are not God's children??? I am confused with this Ekta's serial..




The way I see it, he is in rage and just wants to kill people in anger and hatred. Mughals killed his children but he is taking out his anger anywhere he can kill people so Rajvanshis

So HE thinks Rajvanshis are God's children so he will kill them? Mughals are not God's children!!! I am also confused

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Posted: 10 years ago
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rajvanshis gave shelter to the baaghis of his kingdom
he wants to wipe out all his enemies
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Nice post maddy.
Khairr episode was quite confusing for me . The reason, the logic they are giving for war it is most illogical for me.
Today jodha also confused me . Kya amer wale rajwansiyo se yudh nahi karte hoge then why she asked such question to bharmal?
Jalal he is acting like a psycho and found his action ott.
Bina kisi illogical reason ke dhikhate to kafi accha hota. History ka ek hissa bhi dhikate to behtar hota then its not look so bad.
Edited by ---jais--- - 10 years ago

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