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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ngayou

Well, Munni, the best explanation for that would be MA might have thought as Jalal was willing to give up the throne in Jodha s conversion issue , here also he might do this for an Atifa, but she & all others have definitely misjudged his love for Jodha & his principles & mainly his brains



But still he cant give up for a random woman like atifa who comes from anywhere nd jalal goes gaga. Maham should have doubted from day 1 only tht its not easy to attract jalal tht easily. So love or no love maham should have got the thing on day 1 only. So no not only jalal's love maham misjudged him totally.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: rima4ever

i feel so bad for jalal for this pain



Thanks! We are all feeling bad I think for everyone.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: mishtidoi

Fab take Divya.

Footprints is also one of my favourite poems by Mary Stevenson.

Don't worry, Rashmi's CB is with Jalal safe and secure, and I feel Nigaar is by his side.

Cant's wait for tonight's episode...

BTW my well is ready😉😆



Thanks!
I love Footprints as well 😳
That would be an awesome twist if Nigar is by Jalal's side
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: adianasr

Divi, I dont expect Jodha to have blind faith in TE - but all I say is that neither shd she ask it from him, as she has done all along - KH waala track not included - My only point is - Jo hum khud nahin kar sakte woh doosre se expect karna galat hai - bas mera kehna itna hi hai - if asking Jalal to have had blind faith in Jodha till the Suja track is ok then asking her to have blind faith in him now shd also be ok - and if this is not ok then the Suja track let us all accept that Jalal was not at fault - abb if ppl want to have their cake, eat it and then put it in a box for the next day - woh toh kuch hazam nahin hota 😆



I agree- in overall fairness and justice that is correct- but we have to remember that Jodha and Jalal are two very distinct individuals - they cannot be expected to react to the same situations the same way



And we know that Jodha always has the highest expectations from Jalal
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: karishma.s

You can hardly blaim jodha for not trusting jalal. When your own husband tells you time and again that he has fallen for papita and she is responsible, tells harsh words to her kids, declares to marry papita at the cost of the crown, tells her that she has no right over him, does not even listen to his own mother and his childhood best friend, what is jodha supposed to believe ? She did not believe it immediately after jalal's supposed fake love confession. she thought all was fine after jalal came to rescue her from khyber. And then finally talks of talaq after marrying papita? Tell me there is no woman on planet earth who would believe jalal. I think even jalal has realised that he went to far. But jodha has become numb after the talaq thing. She has decided to go to Amer. She is still thinking rationally about the future of her kids after war breaks out and knows that her kids will remain safe only in Amer. She is still worried for jalal cause she has sensed that there is something wrong and he is not taking the right decisions anymore. But she is unable to lay a finger on what it is. Well I guess that is because jodha is completely straight forward and like an open book. She says what she feels and there is no pretence whatsoever in what she says or does. She was graceful and controlled. I loved the way she talked to jalal curtly and said that there is no need to worry for her as she is going to Amer forever. Though I know jalal is acting, I think this gave jalal an idea of how much he has hurted her. That is what drove him to her Hojra. Her acting with hb was amazing😊. She was controlling her emotions, but with hb her emotions came out. Well at the end of the entire thing, I'm sure and I'm wanting jalal to remove his frustration on papita for all the pain he and jodha had to go through. JALAL THRASH PAPITA'S HEAD AND WIPE THAT HORRENDOUS SMIRK OF HER FACE BY DECLARING HOW MUCH U LOVE JODHA IN FRONT OF ALL!!!!!!!


I cannot wait for the thrashing part!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

very well written , Divya... i ll post here waht i posted at Mansi's thread... see if u can understand what i always wanted to tell...

'Ab bus... ye baat hadd se zyada badh rahi hai'... finally Jalal understood this... but just hope it's not too late... in doing all this drama only to protect her and their kids, he simply forgot the major fact that drama should always be done at a right time and right situation... if it's done at wrong time, wrong situation and improper circumstances, it leads to worst possible disaster...if he really wanted to do all this drama, he should have sent Jo back to Amer , right when he started his fake romance with Atifa... he still does not know the gravity of the pain she has faced...he still doesn't know, this drama had given her few weak moments...he still doesn't know, in those weak moments, the same strong queen of his has tried to finish her life along with their unborn children...

and soon after he will finish this drama, if Jodha tells him abt that incident, Jalal is going to get the biggest shock of his life... the understanding, that it was his own drama that had pushed her even to think abt taking her own life, and that she is standing in front of him alive , not coz of him but coz in that weakest moment of her, not the gr8 Shehenshah and her husband himself, but that Khaibar was savior of her and his kids, then Jalal will understand, that this drama of his would have cost him his love and the biggest happiness of his life that is his children... if he comes to know abt this incident, he won't be able to look in her eyes... hope he will have the strength not just to survive this shock but to give her the strength coz after telling this to him she is sure to break down...

he ll clear the misunderstanding btw him and Jo after this exposure , but for him to get her back to normal life is going to make him really work hard... not coz she won't be able to trust him... but if she tells him abt her suicide attempt, the feeling of guilt that she is criminal of her own kids, that will posssess her , will make her mistrust her ownself , and then it won't be easy for Jalal to help her in gaining her confidence and strength back...

after this exposure , Jo ll be in most vulnerable condition, where she ll need very tender care and lots of love, that can help her in trusting herself... Jalal doesn't know the extent of shock he has to face after the truth is revealed...



Thanks! Yes, you bring valid points and it is up to how the CVs want to wrap up this track - Till this moment I am not sure why they showed the suicide moment- as Jodha was weak for those 2 seconds and then strong for the rest both with Khaiber and beyond.

She does need TLC and I think she will get exactly that
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: abhi786

Divya the episode was good .. I enjoyed it, it was more of JO feelings on the next day her life is changing totally..

Still JO has faith, but questioning herself why they relationship changed and how can Jalaal hates her so much this soon, what wrong happened...

HB was good to tell don't throw personal stuff in Public especially Jo giving them waaris, her sadness when she distribute clothes is understandable.. Jo and Hamida scene was so good mother& daughter, but JO words that she can't bear to see Jalaal anger and neglect her is the main pain she is suffering now..

Ruqu Jo scene was good, while first time ruqu acknowledged that JO is beautiful, but to tell her now Jallu moved on to atifaa... Atleast she opened up to Jo, but still didn't gave comfort she needs now instead JO console her..

Jo in hojra scene was good when she said to moti that now MAA Jodha has to be strong and also told moti, she didn't want to talk to him again as it will bringing much bitterness and this time she will want to leave wishing his married life.. I loved the way she took vachan from Maan to take care of jalaal and be with him now he may be in illusion..

Jalaal is going so much pain, hearing the words he uttered to JO, he himself said it's too much overbored, may be he came to talk to JO.. It last scene was super..

Waiting for the climax ..




Yes, it was a great episode - and the last scene was my favorite
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: lashy

I don't blame Jodha for not seeing through Jalal's plan 😊


At the same time, I am proud of Jalal for making a plan (however dangerous or not) for putting himself in the line of fire and taking the bull by it's horns in order to save his family..
😃



Agreed completely!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: lashy


Frankly speaking, as far as I'm concerned - I would like tender moments between both, but not at the cost of one weeping/one feeling guilty/one apologizing at all. If Jodha comes to know WHY Jalal did all that does she still really need an apology? He did all that to save her life. Would she rather he didn't do this drama and put her safety at greater jeopardy? Yes, he didn't expect her to try to suicide - actually, NONE of us did. He must have expected her to be in harem while he could keep an eye on her. The night venture did put his plan off. However, he did get her back (possibly putting his plans on hold and risking the life of the rest of his family too - not knowing what's cooking between MA/AK at that point).
And the rest of it is now possibly falling in place.

Personally, I would think Jalal would be equally drained as Jodha by the end of this ordeal 😊

Emotionally - While she is dying as a result of his words, I can't see how his own words wouldn't be eating him up. That is what conscience does to a good guy - food/sleep'/peace wise I can't see how he'd be living his days happily while she's suffering!

Physically - While she's been running around and carrying two little ones inside her, he's been running around keeping an eye on everything making all plans singlehandedly - added by the worry of the fact that any moment anything can backfire and take away his life/life of his loved ones!

Mentally - Need I even explain here?

😳





We all need TLC!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: adianasr



absolutely and lashy this time we wont see Jalal do that since he wont be guilty - there is no guilt here - what is there is pain, at having to put all those who love him thru such a wringer - he will apologise but this time it will be not out of guilt - Warriors when they fight do not have guilt for having killed the enemy becoz to fight and to kill is their duty - and this is war that he is fighting and a war that he has to win - he has no other option - the option to loose, or to fight another day is non existent - so no, I do not expect guilt - in fact if you note all of Jalal's expressions - nowhere will you find guilt - there is stoic acceptance, there is frustration, there is pain - but there is no guilt - guilt is a product of shame and he has done nothing to be ashamed of - hence this apology would be for being harsh and hard on all his loved ones but not for having done anything wrong


Well said! 👏

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