Take 5: Top 5 Countdown for August 6th, 2014

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Guys, I knew it, the CVs will make it worse before making it better. So, I already had my take 5 ready šŸ˜†

As you read this post, things will get better and better (I hope)

Most of this forum is already lamenting as if the worst has happened, when there is no need it.

This weekend I highlighted the Schrodinger's cat experiment ... if you lock a cat with poison and close the door of a box, till you open the box you do not know if the cat is alive or dead. So, why claim the cat is dead before we know?

The episodes are always confusing and created almost rile us up to expect the worst ... so for my take 5 I created 5 scenarios that are ALL POSSIBLE to highlight that you don't have to naturally gravitate to the doomsday scenario.

Here is my take 5 ... and the scenarios get better and better, so please try to make it to the end and hence the reverse counting:

5. The doomsday scenario: You know they say that imagining your worst fears actually helps you get over it ... it actually works so here it is:

Jalal is completely smitten with Atifa. In his guilt and due to his vice, he is turning irritable and showing bad judgment in all situations, including yelling at Jodha. He is pushed to the edge and decides to marry Atifa. He demands Atifa's husband to divorce her. They get divorced. On the eve of the wedding, Jalal is busy in the company of Atifa. He finds out, taking advantage of his absence, someone has kidnapped Jodha. It is Shariffudin (but his face is covered so Jodha does not know)! Khaiber has a whiff of these plans as he overheard Shariffudin. He escapes from the jail and goes to save Jodha. Jodha is shocked and goes unconscious. Jalal and his extremely talented (oops inept) soldiers go in search of Jodha. Shariffudin (whose face is still covered) attacks Khaiber with a poisonous needle (see I learned the tricks from yesterday's episode) and kills him. He is about to run-off with Jodha ... when Jalal arrives on the scene (late). Shariffudin flees before being recognized. Jalal is shocked to see Jodha unconscious. He carries her back to Agra fort. Hakim Sahiba says the lives of Jodha and the twins are critical. Jalal goes to Dargah and cries and prays his heart out. He realizes his sins and cancels wedding plans with Atifa.

Jodha recovers. She is extremely upset with Jalal. Jalal apologizes profusely and then we have a few weeks of roothna and manaana.

Reasons for: It is the most obvious answer if one doesn't look closely at the scenes and read between the lines. It is also in line with our frustrations in watching these scenes. Also, remember the end of the Ben track? Jalal's tears in the dargah shot the TRPs to number one.

Reasons against: As I wrote it , it sounded more and more ridiculous and so I am glad I did. It will kill multiple aspects of Jalal- his love for Jodha, his love for his pregnant wife, whatever sense of judgment he had left, and most importantly his spirituality and devotion to God. And that too in just 4 days.

Also, Jalal's expressions no where seem like love ... compare his expressions to Jodha. And even if he was in love, that would not completely change how he thinks and acts in four days ... it took a long time for Jodha to influence him and it is not as if Atifa is riling him up against Jodha or Khaiber.

In essence, for one track, the CVs will kill a 300 episode love story. Unless the CVs want us to hate the Jodha-Jalal love story for us to get ready for Salim-Anarkali ... this makes no sense. šŸ˜†

And most importantly, what happened to Jalal's taste? šŸ˜‰

4. The spiritual revolutions scenario: Similar to the doomsday scenario ... but things stop before they escalate too far, before the wedding announcement. Salim Chisti gets wind of the evil winds blowing in Agra. He visits Agra and Jalal learns a powerful lesson in spirituality and recognizes his divine connect with God and his potential. He mends his ways. Same ... ends with Jalal's stronger spirituality and sense of purpose ... and him manaofying Jodha.

Reasons for: If executed well, Rajat could nail the spiritual discovery and transformation. It is in line with all the dialogues on sinning, Ramadan, etc.

Reasons against: Spirituality is not a focus area typically in serials. All the reasons against the doomsday prediction.

Guys, see how hard I worked to get 5 scenarios. šŸ˜†

3. Jodha saves the day scenario:

Jalal is attracted by a spell from Atifa (or another source) and is not aware of it. He continues to go deeper into the spell- yelling at Jodha and announcing his wedding to Atifa. Jodha realizes something is wrong with Jalal , remembers the words of Atgah that such behavior changes are driven by some sort of spell. She realizes all the trouble began with Atifa. She begins spying on Atifa and realizes she is a spell woman. Jodha knows Jalal won't believe her. She remembers an anti-dote she had learned to such spells and brings Atifa's truth out.Atifa ends up being Ben's sister who has come to take revenge. Jalal is shocked at what he has done. Though unintentionally, he knows he has hurt Jodha and cannot believe he could have been trapped like that. He apologizes ... Jodha understands.

Reasons for: Jalal is in a spell is the best explanation for how his behavior has changed completely towards everyone. It also will redeem Jalal at the end of the track as he was not in control of what he was doing. This is also the simplest situation for the CVs with not a lot of loose ends to tie.

And yes, Jodha saves the day as always!

Reasons against: Jalal seems to be aware that he is captivated and pulled by her and he has no control ... either he is in control or not ... how can he be both. The way he slips in between both is reason for suspicion.

I would love to see a stronger Jalal. But, that is never a reason!

But most importantly, this scenario is way too predictable.

2. The sudden tedapan scenario:

Till now, Jalal is primarily in a spell. Finally upon being questioned by many people on his behavior including Jodha, Hamida Bano, he suddenly discovers that something is amiss with him. He spies on Atifa and overhears her talking about the spell with her "husband." He also realizes that they were worried Jodha may interfere in their plans and maybe they should kill her ... hence, he acts like he is mad at Jodha and not listening to her. He traps Atifa by announcing the marriage. Finally, by the day of the wedding he figures out who is working with Atifa and unravels her truth in DEK.

Jalal later explains the situation to Jodha and apologizes for any hurt he caused unintentionally and they tried living as happily as possible as long as the CVs would let them. šŸ˜†

Reasons for: Jalal sometimes seems like a spell ... but he shows moments of consciousness. This would make the situation more unpredictable as he shows sudden tedapan. A lot of Zee man have claimed that there will be a twist and Jalal will be teda (hope he is not limping again because of Khaiber).

Reasons against: In which track has Jalal been shown to save himself! Enough said. It is also hard to get out of a spell once you are trapped in it, even if you are Akbar.

1. The tedapanti scenario: If the CVs do this, they are brilliant. And I thought it a lot to make it all fit in as logically as possible, at least by the standards of our CVs.

All of this is a big plan by Jalal . He feels something odd about Atifa as he draws her painting and feels there is more to her. He spies on Atifa and her husband the day before the DEK session itself and overhears the following:

-Atifa is here to trap Jalal in her spell and destroy him by brainwashing his actions

-They have support both within Agra and outside

-They have spies constantly watching Jalal to monitor the impact of the spell

-Their only threat is Jodha Begum as her love / strength could protect him ... so if the spell does not work they will hurt Jodha Begum

Hence, Jalal wants to trap not only Atifa but also find out who is the mastermind behind this plan so he plays along (or else, why wouldn't he have just captured Atifa by now , he doesn't need evidence?) . He lets them in without security checks so that he can have them around ... it is better to have enemies close than afar.

His self-talks and conversations with Atgah are altered as he knows there are constant spies. His behavior with Jodha is terrible as he does not want his enemies to view Jodha as a potential obstacle and hurt her. He purposefully shows his attraction to Atifa through the hunting trip so everyone believes him.

He announces the wedding to throw Atifa off guard. On the day of the wedding Jalal unveils the truth and now knows the accomplices whoever they are. He later goes to apologize to Jodha but explain that what he did was for everyone's safety ... as he had hinted, to be a better husband to everyone. All's well that end's well till the CVs develop the next track.

Reasons for: It would be sheer brilliance and the CVs have that potential as shown in Sukanya's wedding track. It would be a true surprise. It would also explain why Jalal seems in control when he claims he is not. And also, why Jalal is so OTT in expressing his emotion if they are real.

Reasons against: Are the CVs that brilliant?

In any case, CVs if you are reading this, there is a very logical way you can show Jalal's full-on tedapanti and close this track with great drama. I truly won't mind if you copy. šŸ˜‰

I believe (3), (2), and (1) are all likely scenarios. I would love (1) to be true ... I was a bit unconvinced yesterday, but then went through all the things that would have to be true for it to be true, and it is in the realm of the possible. And, Jalal's expression in the precap gives me hope.

But, the one thing I want to highlight in this very long post ... is please do not think the doomsday scenario is the one we will see for sure. I have visualized it, so I no longer fear this scenario, but there is no reason I need to believe that is true.

I think the CVs true brilliance is that they have created so many possible scenarios to have the viewer glued on ... with a lot of passion as well. In addition, I have heard a spoiler that would support EACH of these scenarios (except for 4 which I made up) ... and so I am not letting a spoiler spoil my mood for now. I will just enjoy Jalal sword fighting šŸ˜†

So, what is your favorite scenario? Any ones to add?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I am sill rooting for 1, Teda Jalal...Divya,,,

One question, How can Jalal get married to atifa so soon. she can get divorce but will have to wait 3 months right.

As of now to me it looks like Atifa is not married. could this happen
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Divi,
I would just like to take a moment to praise this wonderful actor, that's Rajat Tokas. Why? Just one scene that I would like to cite as an example. The rain scene where he was talking to Sharifuddin of becoming a Jallad again. Now it's a routine thing that sometimes I go back and watch old episodes, now usually this brings out subtle differences,like change in their look, faces, most importantly dialogue-delivery and voice. There was a subtle difference in RT's voice then and now, and it's wonderful, when you hear it again. It was there in that rain scene. And that rain scene was phenomenal in that Jalaal looked like he was trying to keep it all in and perhaps push it somewhere deep if he could but, but, it was threatening to break through. Wow! šŸ‘ This guy deserves all the accolades he gets.

Also I felt this was a veiled threat to Shareef.

Another scene which I thoroughly enjoyed was the one between Jalaal and Atifa, though Atifa didn't contribute much to the beauty of this scene except have me gnashing my teeth, because of the wide-eyed hare-brained damsel look on her face, throughout this scene, Jalaal is like a salesperson in a saree-shop. Let me explain, he's watching your face and then willing to give you what you want based on what he sees on your face. Throughout this scene, he was revealing as well as watching Atifa, and even without the surma in them, his eyes looked potent. Now I get where the FF writers draw the inspiration for their Jalaal. Humei to teddy bear ki aadat padh gayi thi...šŸ˜†

Jodha for the most part looked troubled as well as blissfully careless. I love Moti's telling her, don't worry about Khy now, worry about Jalaal.

Aww Atgah Sahab, you're really playing the role of a doting ataliq, trying to get these two little monkeys to mend their ways.

Maham's back! Well, you see now that she wasn't there all these days, I realise her importance, she's like a lighthouse, shows us what's what. A typical MA modus operansi looks like, MA catches the thief, gets the thief to spill the beans, playing good-cop bad-cop single-handedly, and then blackmails the theif to do the exact same thing he/she'd set out to do. Now that MA wasn't there, it took me some time to realise Atifa was negative. šŸ˜†

I don't know, if this was observed by those who watched the show on TV or not, but, in the Ja-At scene near the lattice, there's a whistle, when Jalaal was telling Atifa about his state. How did that happen? Please, let me know if this is there, or, my online player, is playing a prank on me, because I ran that scene thrice, to see if I was hallucinating, and I wasn't. šŸ˜•

And our dear Khy seems to be getting inetrnational treatments of torture, yesterday it was the African way of sedation, I wonder if we'll see gullotine next...

The scenarios seem to have gotten you in a comic mood šŸ˜†. Khy getting a whiff of things, At being Ben's little sis...🤣

Now coming to my favourite, definetely, scenario 1, but, I know I will be shown scenario 5, with enough tears to overflow the already full dams in Karnataka. šŸ˜†

Awesome post. šŸ‘ Hum sab kitne logical ban gaye nahi? šŸ˜†
Edited by rpeez - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Divs, Jalal not only knws what Atifa is but he also knws what that man who calls himself her husband is - infact he started his overt smitten with Atifa acting only when he was sure what Atifa was and thus sure of what that 'man' is.

Today Jalal also confirmed that the mole in his palace is Sharif and what he is and where he is coming from

Till now Jalal had let his enemies set the pace - but now he has taken the game into his hands lock, stock and barrel - and he is the one now making the rules and setting the pace

And soon he is going to pull the rug from under the ugly feet of these conspirators who want to hurt his beloved Jodha, his other begums, his unborn kids, his family and loyals but most of all his people

Yes today he decided to let every soft sentiment go becoz this is now war!!!!!
Edited by adianasr - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Wow! This thesis is worthy of a doctorate. You have covered all the scenarios. Just one left, since we want to cover all the bases, here it is.

What if Jodha is part of the play acting routine along with Jalal? This way, Jodha avoids the distress too. The husband wife team of Tedas working together to trap their enemies.

Very far fetched but with these CV's anything is possible.
Edited by Donjas - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hehehe... Divyam... you are over-working your brains for this stupid BT and their CVs ka logic šŸ˜†

Anyway, am loving your analysis and I like the last no.1. But, you know what... having experienced these CVs they will go with no. 5 , make Jallu cry like crazy for giving pain to his Jodha begum when she is actually carrying his waaris - his pyar ki nishaani

Our... desi old maamis like / love this and TRP shoots up to no. 1 šŸ˜’ we in the forum will sigh with relief that atleast this track is over and prepare for our next "crying track" in the form of twins death šŸ˜•

Donno who is teda now - Jallu, or CVs or the TRP maamis šŸ˜”

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Wow..! Dhivya..Very Interesting 😳 😃
I loved all the scenarios , I will go for 1 , 3 , 4 and 5th..I want cv's to stalk this ideas,,If they are running out of ideas..šŸ˜‰


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Posted: 11 years ago
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honestly im prepared for the worst scenario. i dont have any hopes on CVs now. jodha's intuitions r always right, so her kangan had broken thts enough for me to bury all my hopes.😭
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Divi, I am divided between the two, spell and tedhapanti.
I personally want tedhapanti...this track will be loved by every fan groups and every audience!

I dont want the first one which is similar to Ben..this will be the same cliche Dargah, rona-dhona, maafi thing! I dont think CVs will go that way.

if Jalal is really after Papita, no audience will forgive him regardless his endless maafi and rona-dhona..he has earned trust and built an image as an ideal husband...once this trust is broken or image is ruined, it cant be put together or rectified..the scar will always be visible.
so, by any means he has to come out clean...so either spell or tedhapanti...spell will make look Jalal more dumber than before and tedhapanti will make him wicked emperor once again!! this is the best opportunity for CVs to bring back the Jalal we all r missing..!

now coming to tonight's episode-

Jalal is ACTING.
just see his scenes, his dialogues, is this our Jalal? itna cheap aur ghatiya sadak chap dialogues bolnewala Shehenshah humara nahi hosakta.

observe his expressions after his fight with Jodha before Sharifuddin comes...then see how he clutches Sharif..!! he is applying "ek teer do nishana" strategy...he will catch Sharif too!

I dont know why I am still firm at my belief that Jalal is faking.

its puke-worthy to see Jalal-Papita that close and hugging! yuckkk🤢

but my heart says Jalal is still tedha...he said his love for Jodha is guzra hua pal...pyaar ek bar hojaye woh usse kabhi vapas nahi lesakte...it will always remain the same.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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wonderful post dear...dard bhare dilko thora chain mila...warna jo haal dilka idhar ho raha hai.

waise...why I feel ke kisi ne ark diya hai jalal ko...jo thora khybu nebhi khaliya hai...but case oppst ho gaya...ek atifa pe, duja jodha pe...

thank god agdah ne nehi khaya...woh to hb pe lattu ho jata...

jalal ko firse naya abbajan mil jata

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