~~FF~~Shah Nama ', The Admired-of-the-World ~ , new update pg 16 - Page 2

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: smile.sara


I m thinking to add disclaimer

" I hate love story "

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Naheee .. naheee 🤣
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Sara my pet,

A very interesting and detailed account of the complicated relationships between all these characters- Babur's wives and children, Humayun's wives - and all the interlinking bonds of blood, often weakened by greed and ambition.

You have put together a lot of detailed information that I never knew. I was particularly struck by the parts in blue.

One small bit of advice: even with all your explanations, the inter-relationships are still a bit confusing. Maybe you could draw a chart, a family tree for the Mughal imperial family, beginning with Shahenshah Zahiruddin Muhammad Babur right at the top, and attach it here. I am going to try and do some such thing for my own information.

It appears a pity that Hindal Mirza did not succeed Babur instead of the weak and incapable Humayun, but then again, how would we then have had Jalaluddin Muhammad Akbar? So perhaps it was all for the best after all!

My questions for you, and my comments, are in italics and in black.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: smile.sara

prologue

shahnsha humayu the son of babar e azam was King with no land, roaming in the desert of sindh with his two wife (his first wife bega begam and newly wedded pregnant hamida bano begum) and some loyal friends and soldiers.

bega begum his first wife and cheif queen just lost her 8 year daughter ...shahzadi aqiqa sultan while she and other wifes of humayu were imprison to sher shah after war btw mughal army and sher khan army at chausa bengal ...although sher shah treated these royal ladies well and sent them back to humayu with proper protocol in the care of his trusted general ...but he lost her daughter in btw this mess .. although bega begum herself not in good condition due to this huge lost, she was trying to take care her husband and his pregnant wife but obviously it was not enough ..

humyun was heir less yet ...although he never said but he needs son

..hamida was a very young girl and new bride ...bega begum knew this well so trying to help, consol and take care her.

shansha babar's other son were in their repectIVE kingdoms granted by humayu to rule independently Under mughal flag ACCORDING TO THEIR FATHER will.

sultan mirza kamran was rulling kabul.

his real brother sultan mirza askari was ruling kandhar .

youngest and apple of babar eyes..sultan mirza hindal was in gazni

none of humayuu brother was intended to help him in these hard times

kamran mirza was most cunning, greedy .

askari had a weak personality ...he was totally in influence of his elder brother kamran.

both of them think that now humayu lost hindustan he must be wanted to get back babar initial terotary from them.

Hindal mirza was the favorite of his father ...most handsome, courageous wise and warrior among his brothers but right now he believed that humayu lost his empire due to his over superstious nature. he was not greedy of power but under certain circumstaces he was bound to think tht humayu is not capable to take care of such huge reponsibility ...according to him his edler brother was not worthy king. He seems to have been a good judge of character!😉

and lastly ... humuyu the eldest brother, who was very superstious ... dont take any step without zodiac signals...very kind heartened and forgiving which is usually not wise for king ... not much courageous and not a goood administrator and nor a great warrior off course ... but he was a good man for sure .. For an emperor, it is no use being good if you are not strong and capable! But Jalal obviously loved his father a lot.

Character sketch a this stage of story

HUMAYU:

BAIGA BEGUM-- HUMAYU FIRST WIFE AND CHIEF QUEEN ... SHE IS ALSO HIS FIRST COUSIN...

hAMEEDA bANO bEGUM--

HUMAYU NEWest AND LAST WIFE TILL THIS STAGE OF STORY... SHE IS EXPECTING ... SHE WAS LADY IN WAITING OF DILDAR BEGUM... HUMAYU STEP MOM AND BABAR's SECOND CHIEF WIFE AFTER MAHAM BEGUM WHO WAS HIS CHEIF QUEEN AND HUMAYU MOTHER

dILDAR bEGUM--

SHE IS HUMAYU STEP MOM AND BABAR SECOND CHIEF WIFE AFTER MAHAM BEGUM ... SHE IS VERY HUMBLE AND WISE LADY ... SHE IS MOTHER OF MIRZA HINDAL AND GULBANDAN BANO ... SHE SUPPORTED HUMAYU WHOLE HEARTEDY EVEN WHEN BABAR WAS ABOUT TO CONSIDER MAKING MIRZA HIDAL his heir ... HUMAYU HAD GREAT LOVE AND RESPECT FOR HER... HAMIDA BANO ALSO RESPECTS HER ALOT...SHE AND MIRZA HINDAL WERE GURDIANS OF HER BEFORE HER WEDDING in Hindal harem under his mother dildar begum. She seems to have been Humayun Part 2 in being foolishly conscientious. The most capable son, Mirza Hindal, should have been chosen as Babur's successor, nor just the eldest.

DILDAR BEGUM HAS GOOD KNOWLEDE OF medicine AND HIKMAT... SHE WAS MASTER IN HOUSE HOLD WORKs AND OTHER HOMELY DUTIES AS SHE WAS LADY IN WAITING OF HER MOTHER IN LAW IN HER LAST DAYS ...AND IT WAS BABAR'S MOM WILL THT BABR SHOULD MARRY HER . She was also distant relative of his husband ..babar e Azam Only a distant relative! I would have expected her to be a first cousin of his!😉

kHANZADA bEGUM... SHE WAS THE ELDER SISTER OF HUMAYU ..HIGHLY RESPECTABLE fOR WHOLE MUGHAL FAMILY ...HER OPINION AND DECISIONs are REALLY MATTERed... SHE WAS WIFE OF MAHDI kHUaJA ..ONE OF MENTOR , lOYAL FRIEND, GENERAL AND COMPAION of bABAR..SHE IS CHILDLESS BUT RAISE HER YOUNGEST SISTER IN LAW khadeeja SULTAN BEGUM AS HER OWn DAUGHTER .. How was she Khanzada Begum's sister in law?

KhAdeeja SULTAN BEGUM WEDED WITH MIRZA HINDAL ... SO KHANNZADA BEGUM WAS NOT ONLY AUNT (PHUPHI) OF HINDAL MIRZA BUT ALSO LIKE MOTHER IN LAW TO HIM...

KHANZADA BEGUM AND DILDAR BEGUM ARE ALSO VERY CLOSE TO EACH OThER... AS WHN BABAR N KHNAZADA MOM tUKHLAQ NIGAR KHATOON DIED ...KHANZADA WAS HOSTAGE WIFE -----SHE WAS NOT WITH HER MOTHER. DILADAR BEGUM TOOK LOTS OF CARE IN LAST DAYS OF KHANZADA MOM..

hINDAL MiRZA -

hindal mirza and hameeda bano was emotionaly involve with each other whn humayu put his proposal... hindal was already annoyed with humayu bec he thought tht he is not wise and capable king...so as co - guardian also he was not intended to except this proposal nor hamida bano was agreed to be queen of exiled king ... BUt hindal mother and humayu step mother dildar begum ever geneoreous lady who always supported humayu as right ful heir of her husband, emperor babarr... did make hindal understand and hence eventually made hamida agree to marry humayun What a silly thing to do? Another mahaanta expert, obviously!

kAMRAN mIRZA-- he has a 3 yr old son mirza ibrahim as his heir Where is this chap now?

ASKARI MIRZA --- his wife is very generous woman ... they are childless

mAHAM aNGA ---

maham , her husband khuaja gazi and her 2 year old son adham khan was also with humayu small karavan ...

maham was very clever woman , knew how to make ways ...

she was also very intellegent and HER foresight WAS also strong...

khuaja ghazi her husband was simple and religious man... when hameeda bano and jiji anga both got pregnant simeltaneously... maham anga got worried ...she wanted despretely to be a mother... her six scense was telling her tht no matter what she should be the nurse maid of humayu son ... so after constant knocking on her husband head she was succeded to become pregnant after some moths of hamida bano and jiji anga pregnancy ... now she has no care of her husband , adham or any other thing ... she was just in her dream land to become anga of future king of mughal empire .. Now this is side-splitting! She had a second baby just to become Jalal's daimaa? What happened to that child of hers?

jIJI aNGA...

Her name was roshan.. she was very pious lady ...she was wife of shams u din khan who was very loyal, and trusted subject of humayu ... He was also a good friend of his king and very brave and capable soldier... Jiji anga was also expecting and in her full terms.

SHAMSUDIN kHAN

bAIRAM kHAN---

his real name was Mirza Bairam baig ... He was very fierce warrior and very loyal to Mughal empire since babar time. He was military genius, very brave and courageous man ... He was army chief of humayu troops hence called... Bairam khan khan e khana... He was Shia Muslim unlike Mughals who were Sunnis ... Were Salima and Rahim too Shias?

Bairam khan was very ambitious person ... He believed in action ... He doesn't believe in forgiving the enemy or giving enemy another chance ... Unlike his king humayun always looked towards right time, astrology, peace treaty and peace talks ... He can be cruel but not diplomate.

rAJA vEER sAAL --

raja veel saal was king of amar kot sindh ...he was one of humayu friends ... his father was the ruller of tat.tha under babar kingship ... but after seigh of dehli by sher shah ... shah Husain who was one of afghan sardar and sher khan supporter seiged tattha sindh and took wast area of rana veel saal territory in his control... In tht unfortunate war raja veer saal lost his father and eventually became ruller of amer kot ...the left kingdom.

shah hussain was cruel man... he was father in law of kamran mirza... hence kamran mirza was supporting shah hssain and sher khan infront of his own brother and king Interesting. How did Kamran Mirza happen to marry this Afghan girl?

jAUHAR --

he is loyal friend and subject of humayu ... his one of support in these hard times...he is writting his life experiances with humayu and his hard ships.. He is father of 3 old boy Abdul

tARDI bAIG --

he was one of general of humayu army... he was rich and greeedy man ...

Following characters detail will be given in first chapter.

Raja Bharmal

Maina Vati ... Bharmal new wife

Padmawati.. Bharmal first wife... Mother of Bhagwan Daas In the film, she was shown as Jodha's mother as well. Here, of course, they have buried her, as they had done with Ruqaiya, Salima and the whole harem in the film!

Rani apoorva Devi... Bharmal mom Aha, my favourite, the Dadisaa!

and many more

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Very nice, my dear Sara, but I need another family tree, this time for Amer, pronto!

As for Shaguni Bai's shenanigans, your description of them reads like a screenplay.

Shyamala Aunty

CHAPTR 1


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Posted: 11 years ago
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My dear AUNTY ...thanx a lot for your take... U m blessed ... U can't imagin how your words are important for me...
The screen play style of writing I read on Another forum


May be u heard of ...show ...-- lagi tujh se Lagan -- this show came couple of years ago on colors... Tht was love story of maharashter based gangster dutta bhao ... I was so hooked with the show, character and actor played tht role... Mishal Raheja ... At last Mishal replaced by shabeer aloowalia...tht was end of show for me , many datta and Mishal fans ... LTL forum became veeraan ...

Then forum member made a team and decided to post daily in weekdays one episode...

The made team of writers, cVs, screenplay writers, Vm designer...

They even posted maha episode in every track... Tht was even better than actual show...

It that virtual episode ... One can feel the mood, expression... What they are wearing... What is their position,, even change of position while talking... Change of expressions while talking...

U can feel set, it looked so real ...
...

So here I want people to feel the scene ... Story is same with different twists according to my liking ... But the feel will be different

Look at our show

Did u remember entry scene of jodha in show... Whole amer court royal family including king queen chahichi bhabhii guards minister all were running after her ...and at the end after moral lecture of jodha to her Rajput king father every chichi bhabhi minister soldier were smiling widely and fondly😕

Can u imagine this in 16 th century Rajput royal aristocratic family...

It was not even looking good to be true... It looking comedy show or joke of them

Now here i want people the of course if they wnt to... Feel , understand the problems, the feelings of characters according to their situations and era.. Their manners, protocols, their limits , their obligations and their helplessness... Their desires, dreams, their grieves, their bereavements, their vulnerability ...

Here in our show from start it is very black or while...good or bad...

Now bec this is really impossible to show clear white and black in real periodic situation with real historical character it's all messed up miserably...

We can't show vampire to be so good tht he refuses to drink blood... Why people love super natural characters ... Because they are different ... They have power on other people ... They fight for bad and destroy them ... But before that fighting they have that power that courage and that wisdom to do that ...good kings are like good vampires...

Tha can't behave like sadhus... They have destroy bad, have courage , and power to do ... They have to show themselves super natural infront of their people...

Or they will have to die like vampire who refuse to drink blood ...

Or forced to live like bazbahDur and Yusuf shah chak ... Both were kings famous for their love for their wife more than love for their people and their courage ...

Both were defeated by Akbar ... Think our show Akbar can do this ... Yah Akbar tau unki kia apni hakumat at bhi unki mohabat Mae qurban kar daega...


Edited by smile.sara - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Sara my pet,

A very interesting and detailed account of the complicated relationships between all these characters- Babur's wives and children, Humayun's wives - and all the interlinking bonds of blood, often weakened by greed and ambition.

You have put together a lot of detailed information that I never knew. I was particularly struck by the parts in blue.

One small bit of advice: even with all your explanations, the inter-relationships are still a bit confusing. Maybe you could draw a chart, a family tree for the Mughal imperial family, beginning with Shahenshah Zahiruddin Muhammad Babur right at the top, and attach it here. I am going to try and do some such thing for my own information.

It appears a pity that Hindal Mirza did not succeed Babur instead of the weak and incapable Humayun, but then again, how would we then have had Jalaluddin Muhammad Akbar? So perhaps it was all for the best after all!

My questions for you, and my comments, are in italics and in black.

Shyamala Aunty


My replies are in bold underline italic under yours
Edited by smile.sara - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: varshaakulkarni

Waaaoooww sara ... awesome start dear ... would love to read more of it ... the first chapter was amazing ... continue soon dear 😎


Thanx a lot my dear varsha...
😳
I found this is the way to came out from this show frustration bec I was not about to stop my self thinking about maha kachra of Akbar
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thanx a lot 😊
my dear
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Posted: 11 years ago
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sara, well done my dear..👏..it seems u did a deep research for dis FF..Anyway i'm loving dis..Loved the character skech and starting..jo is already born..now eagerly waiting for our jalal..post next part soon..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Wow nice update continue soon and now i understood why jo begum supports sujamal instead of bhagavan das😆😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: greeshma014

sara, well done my dear..👏..it seems u did a deep research for dis FF..Anyway i'm loving dis..Loved the character skech and starting..jo is already born..now eagerly waiting for our jalal..post next part soon..


Thanks Greesh my dear friend ... I need people like u 😊
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I did research ... But I m not claiming any thing true ... This is fictional novel style story inspired by Akbar and all fictional shows, movies made and books written on him with my own touch and dialogues...tax once again for liking 😊

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