The full back story of Chand Begum emerges! - Page 2

Originally posted by: history_geek

Nice analysis. :)
Reading this writeup, is equivalent to watching the episode. I will see it today. Lol. I want to see the hooka scene and Ruqayya's facepack. :p Ruqs stunts have become funny now. Lol. Also, the episode shows how vicious can MA be..!!!! She eliminated a Begum. !!. Previously also she killed 2 baandis in Malwa to save Adham.. She's too dangerous..

This cradle apshagun can also mean that JJ will lose their first kid in future ? .

Originally posted by: Akanksha_33

Mansi, great analysis.

The episode was more than a filler one, and things are moving quite fast in our show suddenly!

Shehnaaz is definitely Chand's daughter, who's been fed wrong information by the baandi who took care of her.

Maham is truly vicious and evil, she killed of a Begum? and now is after Chand? God does she even know how many crimes she's done? But yes whatever it is I have a very strong feeling Chand Begum's truth is coming out first, leading Maham to spill the Ruqaiyya's fake pregnancy beans, and both RuqMa going out of the picture.

JJ scene was cute. The palna here was symbolic, that the palna will not go to Ruqaiyya, it will remain with Jodha only!

Precap: Funny! 😆 But she is Ruqaiyya only! Bhavana in Ela's thread has put an offscreen picture with Lavina and Manisha and Lavina has the same pack on her face, so I'm assuming she's taking the arg again to escape! Damn, how low can she stoop! 🥱

Originally posted by: AKT.JA

Thanks for another great and insightful analysis. I have one doubt against the theory that CB is play-acting her madness now.

Remember CB's condition when Maham found CB sitting by the roadside? CB had no way to know that Maham was coming, but she was already sitting there believing the doll to be her daughter.

Had she not been mentally disturbed, she could certainly have found some safe way to contact Mughal authorities if not Humayun himself after the wars ended. Maham may have threatened her in a closed room, but was never that powerful out in the open, with other military commanders and people like BK around.

Based on this, my guess is that CB somehow became mentally disturbed long before the wars even ended. Maybe she couldn't locate and lost track of her daughter and that's what did it?

I find the fact that CB was sitting by the roadside itself suspicious. What if she was sitting on the road to Agra close to Agra city, knowing that surely the Agra royal family will pass that way after the war to go back to Agra? How can a woman just be found in the wilderness unless she planned to be there at that spot to be spotted by Maham? Its a long shot but if one can feign madness one can do this also, I suppose?

superb analysis , Mansi...

actually it was a good episode... one more character coming in front of viewers in a proper manner... the puzzles will be solved soon...

now regards Chand Begum story... TM has taken 3 queens of Humayun to him... and that time CB may not be pregnant... TM left them with Humayun and left, and so he doesn't know what hap after that... and this is much before Humayun's marriage to HB and Jalal's birth later...but that time Humayun had one more son named Al Hasan from Bega Begum , Humayun's heir, who died few years after his birth at very young age... so may be when CB was preg , this son of Bega Begum was alive, and so Humayun may have divided btw two thrones , one of agra and one of delhi agra given to one child and delhi to child of CB... this can be the theory... i don't know for sure... Later when Humayun was at war, these two begums (Bega and Chand) must be at war for power themselves, and Bega begum, being first wife of Humayun, naturally had more powers, and so CB must have feared for her and her child's life, and run from palace...

here i feel a fishy question... according to Gulbadan, Bega begum is said to stay at delhi, and being the first queen to Humayun she too will be the one who hold the powers of Humayun's harem in her hands, just like now Ruku has... so is it possible that Bega begum is anyway connected with MA knowing abt CB's child inheriting delhi throne? can it be Bega begum who has joined hands with MA to kill CB and her child, ? and later when CB has assumed to be dead, and now held captive by MA, but Bega begum is unaware of it...

Naturally , Humayun later married HB and then Jalal was born, but by that time CB has been lost and so even HB doesn't know much abt her, nor Jalal knows anything...and later when Bega begum lost her son, and Humayun hated her and kept her away from him, so there was no chance for her to get any powers though she was his first wife, and so she stayed at delhi, and is said to be in good books of Akbar, who was rightful heir to throne after Humayun...

friends, i don't know if this is anyway related to real history... i m writing what i felt...coz we don't even know the real historical facts, and anyway we r not supposed to discussed history... so if i m wrong, anywhere, then i m really sorry for that...

now abt that promo of Akdha being caught in net... i feel it should be a trap for them from Shenu... Akdha will be out of palace to share few private moments with eachother, or may be gone to some nearby village... (why they r walking , that too without more soldiers with them, that i don't know, so i felt they r just gone for some private moments together), when they r caught...somehow they manage to escape , and run away and to save themselves from the goons, take shelter in same surang where CB is kept, and thus they find her... Jalal gets to know abt MA's truth from soldiers in the surang... by that time, the ever late Atga may send more soldiers in search of akdha ... and so with their help ,AkDha will bring CB to Agra... so MA's game over, and then she will take Ruku down with herself when Jalal will punish her...

so yes, Ruku will pass today's Jalal's hakim test by flying colors...

Mansi, i think u should be in touch with doctors regularly till next week... coz MA and Ruku seem to torture us for atleast one more week, and so your back-pain will need more medication till then😉

Originally posted by: neeshaa16

Dear Mansi,

Great take and great speculations.. As you correctly mentioned if Chand Begum is out of her senses as shown how can she write any paigam to Jalal.. She seems totally psychotic.. In that case how will she be able to help Maham or divulge any details about Khazana??as Maham expects.. When maham takes her as her captive.. she does not even recognise Maham and goes along with her.. If she was n her senses would she have gone with maham??I don't think she is deliberately acting mad.. may be really she has lost her senses .. but if so question remains who has given that paigamm... ??

I don't think it can be Shehnaz because ..Shehnaaz is herself not aware of her mother's whereabouts and does not even know whether her mother is still alive ..

About Shehnaaz also I have a doubt.. which Gunah is she talking about that Jalal has comitted .. becoz.. she should have blamed Humayun and not Jalal for her present state.. Jalal wa'nt born also that time... She said I will punish all those who were present with Jalal when they committed that crime.. what does this mean.. I think there must be some other atrocites inflicted on her by jalal and his men when he was a ruthless King earlier.. or maybe he has killed her lover.. ???

This all is getting too complicated... and confusing.. I had a doubt aboout Javeda suspecting something and though she may be acting mad..actually learns that Maham has kept Chand begum as captive and wants to help her.. (thats a wild guess.. In Agra half of the ppl are acting mad.. or acting pregnant . or acting loyal ..like MA . ) Shehnaaz may not doubt Maham because the Bandhi to whom Shehnaaz was given.. was not aware of Maham.s evil intentions .. so how is Shehnaaz to know that MA is the one who has kept her mother captive.. but she must have heard from that bandhi ..whom she calls her Ammijaan that Maham was in charge of her mothers khidmat.. so may be she is searching for the farmaan in MAham's room.. Again wild guess.

About the precap..interesting theory by Maddy ..which think is correct/.. but would Ruks like to take this risk of making one more baandhi her raazdaar?? if the baandhi tells something to anyone.. so she will again kill that baandhi also?? Maybe MA has helped her in this also.. Lets see what Hakim sahiba is going to tell Jalal about the baby.. BTW did you notice Hakim sahibaa's expressions..she seemed to be shocked.. !!I don't know.. or only I felt so..

Amidst all this JJ scene was good but really went unnoticed.. ..except the ap-shagun thing.. I am really fed up with Jos dialogue..Aap Yahan?? Why every time she has to ask this to her husband?? ..Can't CVS have some fresh dialogues ..and whats her objection of letting Jalal sleep on her bed... ??

Anyways CVS have given lot of food for thought.. ..so keep speculating.. !!!

Originally posted by: skanda12

If that lady with the facepack was Ruq then by jove she must be drinking that ark to look pregnant. But what a crazy idiot she must be to think she can pull it off on Jalal! Does she expect to show some other person's baby as her own when the birthing time comes?

Superb analysis...
Yesterday's epu wz quite informative...
Maham is so evil...
Felt pity fr chand begum...I don't think shz acting as being captive fr long n being inflicted with so much torture a person can loose their mental.stability...
I believe now the story wud move fast and maham as well as rukiye's exposure both r near..a new vamp is ging to make an entry n shz believed to bt very evil so I think b4 her entry the makers wud like to end all existing track n start frm fresh tracks...

Mansi,