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Posted: 11 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: skanda12

Lovely points Joja ... I love how you have pulled out all the lovely dialogues which sound so much more emotional in Hindi than in English translation. By the way if Hamida can make so many dresses for Jodha, maybe Jodha can donate her old dresses to Maharana Pratap who has just one green dress! maybe he can get some tailor to convert her long skirts into coats and shirts?

Glad that you liked the points.
And dress for MP .. lol
Jodha indeed will be waering green for Jashn. I saw it in Zee promo today.
And Isnt Jalal's new dress and Atga's dress same.. atleast the same colour anc cloth
Mansi, i had a ques on BB -SD - i did post in Mon's thread i guess not sure if you answered.
SD so openly lusts for Jodha in front of BB. do you think he is doing purposly. And she might still takes his side.. your thoughts ..
about Jashn and predictions -- I have no clue. Who will be blamed, who will be hurt.. Will have to wait till Friday i guess.
Today will be all dressing and SD-AM plotting.
Tomorrow actual Jashn
Friday wil be attack...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: deejagi

Mansi it was more balanced episode than we could expect. Jalal was unhappy and hurt to know so many bad things are happening under his nose but he never smelt them. He was sorry for it and also was shocked it could happen when he had already paased an order on slavery abolition. Jodha had to bring it to his notice that so many things were kept from his notice as the officers in charge were not working to their best to implement his laws and there could be some reasons behind that. She also narrates the incident when and where she saw the slave selling and how cruel the people were with those ill-fated people and the kids were separated from their parents and how that will go against his ruling on a long run.

Jalal accepts that he had misled by his own people in the past and were wrapped with covers and now she is uncovering the wraps one by one. Hence he gives her permission to go ahead with the reformation required in the Harem and also upraise him on the same however bitter the news or situation might be, she should not hide it from him, as he is ready to give her his time and ear to hear her and also act on it, if it calls for and trust her (with his Harem). This is what makes think about the creeping up of misunderstanding between them when he realizes that she had met Sujamal or if Sujamal is found in the Harem (if he really wears a lady dress and sneaks in). Surely he will flare up if the reality of Jodha's meeting with Sujamal comes in front of him in an ugly way.

I have a feeling that Sujamal will be recognized by both Ameris and Shareefuddin simultaneously and Bharamal being the short tempered and enrage king towards Sujamal might think and blame Sujamal as the conspirator of the assassination plot and Shareefuddin might second it followed by Maham / Ruqu blaming Jodha, saying Jodha all along knew about his entry to Agra and still kept Jalal and his men in dark Otherwise Jalal would not have been in danger now. While Jalal risked his life to be part of his subject to celebrate her survival, she had pushed him towards his death. Time and again, she is proving herself danger to Jalal's life and it would be better she stay away from him, so that will ensure the safety of Jalal. Even the awam might say the same thing, as they are now close to their king and anything or anyone who might cause some threat to his life will not be pardoned by them.

So guys, after this thought crept into my mind, I could not enjoy the other scene as you all enjoyed. Even if not a complete MU, Jalal will be miffed off with Jodha for not trusting him while he trusted her always. He might not agree with others on blaming Jodha for conspiring against him, he might shut them with a sharo answer, but he will hurt for her secretiveness about Sujamal. So it will be Jodha's responsibility to break that barrier of hurt and bring out the lively Jalal and hopefully she will do it wholeheartedly.

I just hope raja Bharamal doesn't butt in and suggest that he will take his daughter to Amer for some time till the uproar is cooled or something in line with that. I just hope Hb & BB keep away from this without quoting any dialogues, either in favour or against Jodha. And I even don't want either Salima begum to pledge again her trust in Jodha.

Jaya, you have given such very valid reasons for your point of view that its tough to argue But somehow deep in my bones I feel there will be no MU at all, not between Jo-Ja, not even between Jalal-Sujamal or Bharmal-Sujamal etc.
My own feeling is that the enemies will be so virulent that th focus of Jalal, Atga, Jodha, Sujamal, Bharmal etc will all be on the same side. There will be some great heroism shown by both Jalal-Jodha and also the Amer family wallahs and in the end the grand reconciliation between Jalal-Bharmal will happen, Jodha will plead against any punishment for Sujamal and even Bharmal may say Sujamal can never do peet ke peeche se war. I believe somehow in the Abhay historical perspective that Jodha may take some kasam or tie some rakhi for Sujamal to make him swear that he will protect Jalal from Sharif. I feel Sharif may feel himself under scruntiny after suspicions start falling on him.
I have no reasons to give for such a belief, except that I have a strong belief that this whole jashn will be a "herogiri" track from all sides and not at all an MU track!
Edited by skanda12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: deejagi

Jalal stressed the word TRUST and asked her to share even bitterest things with him. The way stressed it, I feel he will be irked for her hiding things from him & for not trusting him. we can see an hurt Jalal who gets into his cocoon of loneliness.



your point is so valid...MU pakki😭
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Posted: 11 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: deejagi

Jodha confessing her love for Jalal over her dear brother's unconscious body???????? Can't imagine

Not exactly a confession while he is collapsed but after that is all over ...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: Joja

Glad that you liked the points.
And dress for MP .. lol
Jodha indeed will be waering green for Jashn. I saw it in Zee promo today.
And Isnt Jalal's new dress and Atga's dress same.. atleast the same colour anc cloth
Mansi, i had a ques on BB -SD - i did post in Mon's thread i guess not sure if you answered.
SD so openly lusts for Jodha in front of BB. do you think he is doing purposly. And she might still takes his side.. your thoughts ..
about Jashn and predictions -- I have no clue. Who will be blamed, who will be hurt.. Will have to wait till Friday i guess.
Today will be all dressing and SD-AM plotting.
Tomorrow actual Jashn
Friday wil be attack...

Regarding BB, I somehow feel that even if she lknows that Sharif may be the attacker of Jalal, for the sake of kidnapping Jodha she will keep quiet and not tell anyone. That will be her evil role of supporting this Sharif though she herself knows he is a World No. 1 lech!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Jaya, you have given such very valid reasons for your point of view that its tough to argue But somehow deep in my bones I feel there will be no MU at all, not between Jo-Ja, not even between Jalal-Sujamal or Bharmal-Sujamal etc.
My own feeling is that the enemies will be so virulent that th focus of Jalal, Atga, Jodha, Sujamal, Bharmal etc will all be on the same side. There will be some great heroism shown by both Jalal-Jodha and also the Amer family wallahs and in the end the grand reconciliation between Jalal-Bharmal will happen, Jodha will plead against any punishment for Sujamal and even Bharmal may say Sujamal can never do peet ke peeche se war. I believe somehow in the Abhay historical perspective that Jodha may take some kasam or tie some rakhi for Sujamal to make him swear that he will protect Jalal from Sharif. I feel Sharif may feel himself under scruntiny after suspicions start falling on him.
I have no reasons to give for such a belief, except that I have a strong belief that this whole jashn will be a "herogiri" track from all sides and not at all an MU track!

Mansi, even I would live to see them as a happy & lovely family in the jashn and fater. But the thing is Maham is all set to attack Jodha and that will be on Jodha's morality as she can't touch Jodha physically when Jalal is with her. Jodha's morality reduces only if Jalal is miffed with her or if can't justify her point. That can only happen if she is cornered with Sujamal issue openly. Otherwise there is no scope for Maham to pin point on Harem issue. As we know Shareef will not get caught so soon and so is Maham as Adham is still away on the war field. So if not a major MU, he will be hurt and Jodha have to justify her case to him later. they may not openly show their MU.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Not exactly a confession while he is collapsed but after that is all over ...

what will happen, if she turns the table on him and say Shehenshah, everything, every act can't be explained, you need to understand certain things and acts. So it is up to you to decide why I chose to save you by sacrificinmg my life. Is it that difficult to realize that there is no point in me living without you. So I did that.
i would love to see her answer this question in her Mirchi style than lovey dovey style.😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: deejagi

Mansi, even I would live to see them as a happy & lovely family in the jashn and fater. But the thing is Maham is all set to attack Jodha and that will be on Jodha's morality as she can't touch Jodha physically when Jalal is with her. Jodha's morality reduces only if Jalal is miffed with her or if can't justify her point. That can only happen if she is cornered with Sujamal issue openly. Otherwise there is no scope for Maham to pin point on Harem issue. As we know Shareef will not get caught so soon and so is Maham as Adham is still away on the war field. So if not a major MU, he will be hurt and Jodha have to justify her case to him later. they may not openly show their MU.

What you are saying is logically very correct Jaya, but I think this Jodha morality issue will not happen here again after there has already been one track (fake pregnancy track) in which Jalal had reason to suspect Jodha's morality. I feel that the Creatives will not go back to the same old issues which have been thrashed out fully, so if at all an MU has to be there it has to be something else and not on the issue of morality.
See there is one possibility regarding maham. In that scene when Jalal was sending off his troops to Malwa with Pir Mohd and Adham, after the troops left Jalal and Atga were discussing this Mewat was and Atga was talking about this Sujamal doing peet ke peeche se war, and Jalal replied "I want that Sujamal dead or alive". That conversation was fully heard by maham. So I feel that in some way maham will know that Jodha and Sujamal are close and that Jodha will argue against punishment for Sujamal, but maham may try to fan up Jalal's anger regarding Sujamal and somehow say that he is responsible for the attack on jalal. mahham may try to hurt Jodha by implicating Sujamal. So that is why I feel Maham will be checkmated when Suhja does herogiri and takes the attack upon himself rather than let Jalal be attacked. In the end it will be rpoved that Sujamal was helping and not hurting jalal and the suspicion will fall on Sharif, but there may not be enough proof.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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episode was ok. jalal knows about slaves through jodha, he welcomes jodha's effort, &gives permission,
she can change the law in harem, so Harem law is changing by jodha. this law will create problem Maham & ruk.(ruk has habit of, misbeahives to dassies &slaves.)

jalal says now he will trust her (jodha) talks, any talks which maybee tough, she can say to him. He will listen &applying which will needed where. so jalal learning starting. its a good sign. always learner becomes good humen beings.if a king saying this
it shows, how potential he thinks in his mind. But
clearly shows people taking him lightely, his laws or talks are not working in proper way his kingdom, which he wants;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;to improve;so investgation& tightness also be needed some cases.
He goes outside kingdom, & sees what is wrong, happening there?. Here jodha talks also proves right.;;;;;;

secondly he is becoming awareing, if his mind will catch some wrong people also have involved in cheap creations, who not wants things should be work in proper way in kingdom, then solution will beome easier.

sujamal , gives message through child to Atagha,
Atagha gives to Sharrif,when Sharrif pulls his sword
Atgha sleepingness not liked🥱 🥱
why kings special Atagha is so un-concious.He belives sharrif, because Ben case he told about Ben
but yesterday event, Atagha should be aware.

slaves reforms law announcement i think done before the JASHAN. because, in promo people are showing very happy, some people not happy, but they will not have power to oppose directly to KING.

sujamal wants to give message to jodha, i think after
saving jalal he will meet jodha in female dress, because from AMERS raja BHARMAL is now in AGRA. when Sujamal will save jalal, i think jodha will reconize sujamal, but she will silent, raja bharmal not reconized him so he will wear female dress, because when he will save jalal, some people wants to reward him, but he wants to run away so he;;;;;;;;;;different dress.

jalal &jodha scene was good.
jalal nicely asks is she will walk with him to jashan point( it means this level he is giving honour which jodha deserves, &as a Begum, he is offering.any women will like if her husband will respect her.
jodha ans was also good, she will feel honoured if she will walk with him( both were showing made for eachother)😉 😉
jalal not forget pushing night, but jodha face was littele sad to hear this.( teda jalal sometimes taunt his begum) but this scene shows letter maybee read
or maham downfall will be started.
BM has come in place, i think B M has so come telling about Sujamal attacked Mewath, also there intensions are pure to Jalal so no M U next time.
Sujamal died in a war . Abhay better knows.
so Sujamal will ran away this time.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ayushimehra

episode was ok. jalal knows about slaves through jodha, he welcomes jodha's effort, &gives permission,

she can change the law in harem, so Harem law is changing by jodha. this law will create problem Maham & ruk.(ruk has habit of, misbeahives to dassies &slaves.)
Yes Ayushi, the new law may be against anybody treating baandhis and daasis badly so it will affect Ruq who is in the habit of slapping the people of lower stature! And it will affect maham who thinks her audha is based on how many people are under her!

jalal says now he will trust her (jodha) talks, any talks which maybee tough, she can say to him. He will listen &applying which will needed where. so jalal learning starting. its a good sign. always learner becomes good humen beings.if a king saying this
This kind of thing jalal has not said to anybody at all before!
it shows, how potential he thinks in his mind. But
clearly shows people taking him lightely, his laws or talks are not working in proper way his kingdom, which he wants;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;to improve;so investgation& tightness also be needed some cases.
He goes outside kingdom, & sees what is wrong, happening there?. Here jodha talks also proves right.;;;;;;
Yes Ayushi, it is a good thing that jalal not only listened to Jodha but also verified the facts by personal visit and seeing things with his own eyes!

secondly he is becoming awareing, if his mind will catch some wrong people also have involved in cheap creations, who not wants things should be work in proper way in kingdom, then solution will beome easier.

sujamal , gives message through child to Atagha,
Atagha gives to Sharrif,when Sharrif pulls his sword
Atgha sleepingness not liked🥱 🥱
why kings special Atagha is so un-concious.He belives sharrif, because Ben case he told about Ben
but yesterday event, Atagha should be aware.
It is due to this mistake of Atga that Sharif may actually escape getting caught! Atga has given advance warning to Sharif!

slaves reforms law announcement i think done before the JASHAN. because, in promo people are showing very happy, some people not happy, but they will not have power to oppose directly to KING.

sujamal wants to give message to jodha, i think after
saving jalal he will meet jodha in female dress, because from AMERS raja BHARMAL is now in AGRA. when Sujamal will save jalal, i think jodha will reconize sujamal, but she will silent, raja bharmal not reconized him so he will wear female dress, because when he will save jalal, some people wants to reward him, but he wants to run away so he;;;;;;;;;;different dress.
This Sujamal in female dress has caught everyone's imagination! Wonder when this sequence will happen?

jalal &jodha scene was good.
jalal nicely asks is she will walk with him to jashan point( it means this level he is giving honour which jodha deserves, &as a Begum, he is offering.any women will like if her husband will respect her.
jodha ans was also good, she will feel honoured if she will walk with him( both were showing made for eachother)😉 😉
jalal not forget pushing night, but jodha face was littele sad to hear this.( teda jalal sometimes taunt his begum) but this scene shows letter maybee read
or maham downfall will be started.
BM has come in place, i think B M has so come telling about Sujamal attacked Mewath, also there intensions are pure to Jalal so no M U next time.
Sujamal died in a war . Abhay better knows.
so Sujamal will ran away this time.
I agree with your prediction on this!


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